Donzi Poker Run - Now Donzi Fun Run!

upthesaukee · 06-12-2018, 08:56 AM

Here is a link to the Lake Winnipesaukee Donzi Club Facebook event. The reason for the change is clearly stated.

https://www.facebook.com/events/252574758641456/?ti=cl

Dave

Gould1 · 06-12-2018, 11:39 AM

What makes anyone think that things will be any different with marine patrol by not calling it a poker run? I would assume they will target a large group of performance boats no matter what. Do they hassle everyone that attends the HK Poker Run also?

Woodsy · 06-12-2018, 11:50 AM

I think because it is in fact not a Poker Run (with fixed stops) and basically just some like minded folks burning up gas randomly... You don't need to pull an event permit and get MP approval.

No doubt the MP will be paying attention...

Woodsy

Donzi Minx · 06-12-2018, 11:55 AM

Nah, you think they are like that?
Maybe doing DB readings at the same time?

The promotion of Public Safety!

Gould1 · 06-12-2018, 03:18 PM

The Easter Seals Poker Run is the one that would really fry my ass. Here we have a bunch of people spending money for a good cause and are here to raise money for a good cause and I find it too bad that the Marine Patrol can't look the other direction for the noise issues. I understand that speed could become a safety issue but a bunch of loud boats for one day is not going to harm anyone.

LIforrelaxin · 06-13-2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gould1

The Easter Seals Poker Run is the one that would really fry my ass. Here we have a bunch of people spending money for a good cause and are here to raise money for a good cause and I find it too bad that the Marine Patrol can't look the other direction for the noise issues. I understand that speed could become a safety issue but a bunch of loud boats for one day is not going to harm anyone.

While I don't disagree. Once the MP starts excusing on event, then it lead to more events asking to be excused. Its a slippery Slope.

The only time I can see that the noise ordinance could be waved is if a full out boat race is applied for. Poker Runs, Fun Runs, Fishing Tournaments etc. which all need permits once a certain number of participants enter, would just lead to more events getting created so that people could get around the ordinance...

Woodsy · 06-13-2018, 10:23 AM

LI.... I think you are correct! its a slippery slope between a "fun run" and a permit required event. Unfortunately I have no doubt the MP will keep a close eye on these guys... hopefully it will not be as oppressive as last year.

Gould1.... no chance in hell of a noise level abatement for a a Poker Run or a Fun Run. The only time that seems to happen is for the Vintage Race Regatta in Wolfeboro every 2 years.

I have no dog in this fight.... I have not participated in the Donzi Poker Run is a few years.

Woodsy

FlyingScot · 06-13-2018, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gould1

The Easter Seals Poker Run is the one that would really fry my ass. Here we have a bunch of people spending money for a good cause and are here to raise money for a good cause and I find it too bad that the Marine Patrol can't look the other direction for the noise issues. I understand that speed could become a safety issue but a bunch of loud boats for one day is not going to harm anyone.

Not begrudging anyone any fun, and Easter Seals is a fine cause, but let's not be too gullible. The driving force here is not charity, and if one group is allowed to slide on the rules, many others will be in line to follow.

I appreciate the MP doing their job

LIforrelaxin · 06-12-2018, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

I think because it is in fact not a Poker Run (with fixed stops) and basically just some like minded folks burning up gas randomly... You don't need to pull an event permit and get MP approval.

No doubt the MP will be paying attention...

Woodsy

While you can loosely get around the permit... If the Marine Patrol wishes too, once you get beyond, a certain number of participants, a permit is required. I know because I have been involved in "Fun Runs" before. However calling it a fun run, and not having designated stops, my not in the MP eyes require as much supervision....

If the Donzi club is hoping that calling it a fun run gets them out of needing a permit from Marine Patrol, they are mis informed.... This is an organized gathering....

06-12-2018, 08:56 AM	#1
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,615 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,483 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,087 Posts	Lake Winnipesaukee Donzi Club FB Event Here is a link to the Lake Winnipesaukee Donzi Club Facebook event. The reason for the change is clearly stated. https://www.facebook.com/events/252574758641456/?ti=cl Dave __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

06-12-2018, 11:50 AM	#3
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,969 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	I think because it is in fact not a Poker Run (with fixed stops) and basically just some like minded folks burning up gas randomly... You don't need to pull an event permit and get MP approval. No doubt the MP will be paying attention... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

06-12-2018, 11:55 AM	#4
Donzi Minx Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melrose, Mass. Posts: 194 Thanks: 0 Thanked 184 Times in 53 Posts	Donzi Fun Run Nah, you think they are like that? Maybe doing DB readings at the same time? The promotion of Public Safety!

06-13-2018, 10:23 AM	#7
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,969 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	LI.... I think you are correct! its a slippery slope between a "fun run" and a permit required event. Unfortunately I have no doubt the MP will keep a close eye on these guys... hopefully it will not be as oppressive as last year. Gould1.... no chance in hell of a noise level abatement for a a Poker Run or a Fun Run. The only time that seems to happen is for the Vintage Race Regatta in Wolfeboro every 2 years. I have no dog in this fight.... I have not participated in the Donzi Poker Run is a few years. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

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06-12-2018, 11:39 AM	#2
Gould1 Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 38 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	What makes anyone think that things will be any different with marine patrol by not calling it a poker run? I would assume they will target a large group of performance boats no matter what. Do they hassle everyone that attends the HK Poker Run also?

06-12-2018, 03:18 PM	#5
Gould1 Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 38 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	The Easter Seals Poker Run is the one that would really fry my ass. Here we have a bunch of people spending money for a good cause and are here to raise money for a good cause and I find it too bad that the Marine Patrol can't look the other direction for the noise issues. I understand that speed could become a safety issue but a bunch of loud boats for one day is not going to harm anyone.

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