What Idiots Placed Schools on Busy State Roads

[The Real BigGuy]

I believe “special duty” is mostly “details” (at least it is in MA) and details are paid for by the contractor/event/facility that hires them plus a little extra for the state. We had local PD who made more than this trooper & 50% was details. A couple of years ago MA SP details were costing the company I worked for close to $100/hr/officer with a 4hr min.


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[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

I believe “special duty” is mostly “details” (at least it is in MA) and details are paid for by the contractor/event/facility that hires them plus a little extra for the state. We had local PD who made more than this trooper & 50% was details. A couple of years ago MA SP details were costing the company I worked for close to $100/hr/officer with a 4hr min.

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That is true but most details on public roads are to install or repair utilities or install and maintain roads and bridges. The contractor figures the cost of details into his bid to perform the work. Therefore, as in most cases, the taxpayer ultimately pays the bill.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

I believe “special duty” is mostly “details” (at least it is in MA) and details are paid for by the contractor/event/facility that hires them plus a little extra for the state. We had local PD who made more than this trooper & 50% was details. A couple of years ago MA SP details were costing the company I worked for close to $100/hr/officer with a 4hr min.


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So why point out here that its paid for by the contractor if you're going to jump on the guy for pointing out that in the end it's paid by the tax payers if you agree? I would imagine overtime is time and a half or double time, Nobody is saying they don't deserve the extra, There pay is a disgrace, like many jobs in our country. 90% of the detail jobs I see could be handled by a $12 dollar an hour flagger. Everything the gov pays for is tripled from the BS. This is no exception.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by noreast

So why point out here that its paid for by the contractor if you're going to jump on the guy for pointing out that in the end it's paid by the tax payers if you agree? I would imagine overtime is time and a half or double time, Nobody is saying they don't deserve the extra, There pay is a disgrace, like many jobs in our country. 90% of the detail jobs I see could be handled by a $12 dollar an hour flagger. Everything the gov pays for is tripled from the BS. This is no exception.

You seem to want it both ways--you say the troopers deserve the pay and that many people in our country are underpaid. But then you suggest the work could be done for $12/hour, implying the state should hire flaggers instead.

The pay formulas for police, fire, teachers and other government employees often have details that seem wrong to a business person; but overall these folks are the backbone of the community and are paid less than they would be in comparable corporate jobs. So I'm good with the money the government spends on them.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

You seem to want it both ways--you say the troopers deserve the pay and that many people in our country are underpaid. But then you suggest the work could be done for $12/hour, implying the state should hire flaggers instead.

The pay formulas for police, fire, teachers and other government employees often have details that seem wrong to a business person; but overall these folks are the backbone of the community and are paid less than they would be in comparable corporate jobs. So I'm good with the money the government spends on them.

I agree, I'd rather see them paid more upfront. I know it doesn't save money but it would be the right thing to do. If they weren't doing all the details they'ed have a better quality of life as well, the contractors wouldn't have to figure in as large chunk of money for traffic control. we all know what happens to prices when gov employees are used. I also know none of this will ever happens, just an exercise in nation building i guess.