Why I hate people fishing around my dock

BroadHopper · 07-05-2018, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Being respectful to begin with goes a long way towards receiving respect back.
The argument about safe docking in storms doesn’t apply here...oranges and apples.

Been told a number of times no docking in really bad storms or windy situations on Winni. It's common sense and courtesy on other inland waterways and along the intercoastal.

Even at public docks such as Weirs and Glendale. The police will tell you to move on, despite the weather.

It must be a Winni thing!

garysanfran · 07-05-2018, 09:05 AM

I would always allow someone in need to dock at my dock, in a storm, breakdown, etc., and I would gladly help them with their needs.

Let me explain to those who don't seem to understand.

I did not know what this person standing in front of my window was doing there. At that point I didn't know his boat was docked at my dock and he wasn't wearing a sign that said "I'm retrieving a lure from your beach".

As for keeping my mouth shut and just letting him do his thing because he now knows where I live? (if my 12 gauge had been in my hand, he'd also know I am well armed). For many decades, that has not been my style. Casper Milktoast I am not, and it has served me well so far.

The guy has not been seen again in over two years!

Ironically, or understandably, the property owners that seems to have the most problems with fishermen, live in Fish Cove.

greeleyhill · 07-05-2018, 04:56 PM

As quoted "...As for keeping my mouth shut and just letting him do his thing because he now knows where I live? (if my 12 gauge had been in my hand, he'd also know I am well armed). For many decades, that has not been my style. Casper Milktoast I am not, and it has served me well so far."

For garysanfran...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfX_oDzOxsc

Kamper · 07-05-2018, 09:18 AM

"Any port in a storm" is not just a slogan. If you are in jeopardy, go ahead and tie off. I think the legal principle is called 'force majeur' or you take the lesser of competing harms. Dieing/Scaring the crap out of your kids Vs. pissing off a dock-owner is a no brainer. If being nice doesn't work just tell them you'll wait peacefully for the cops to come. The cop may pretend to give you a warning but I doubt it.

I used to help manage a large private beach in Laconia. I had no problem chasing off people who thought it was a park but if someone tied up during a storm it wasn't worth getting wet to even go talk to them. I've jump started more than a few who drifted up also.

That being said, I would have words with someone who over-cast 20 feet onto the land even if they did stay away from the houses.

FlyingScot · 07-05-2018, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Been told a number of times no docking in really bad storms or windy situations on Winni. It's common sense and courtesy on other inland waterways and along the intercoastal.

Even at public docks such as Weirs and Glendale. The police will tell you to move on, despite the weather.

It must be a Winni thing!

I'm generally appreciative of our MPs, I think they do a good job and are very valuable. But if I was genuinely concerned about the weather and safety, I would not follow the police instructions. I would just accept the ticket. If it was a large amount, I would probably appeal it later.

Descant · 07-06-2018, 12:36 PM

I don't think MP will enforce town ordinances that say no docking 2am-6am or whatever. I have also been told that if you have to leave your boat at a public dock, a call to the local PD with an explanation goes a long way. I've also heard that if you stayed at the dock due to foul weather, an officer might tell you "You can't stay here." and then walk away. These officers have a job to do, but they are not without understanding. As with a speeding stop, you can get a ticket or you can get a warning, officer discretion.

"You can't do that on Winni..." in my experience is frequently unsubstantiated. What we called "a sea story" in the Navy. Usually starts with "No shxx! This really happened." I've been at a lot of meetings with folks from various state agencies. Ask about some of these things and they say "Yeah. We've heard that too. Nobody knows where the story started."

07-05-2018, 09:05 AM	#2
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,640 Thanks: 728 Thanked 705 Times in 363 Posts	Entiende por favor! I would always allow someone in need to dock at my dock, in a storm, breakdown, etc., and I would gladly help them with their needs. Let me explain to those who don't seem to understand. I did not know what this person standing in front of my window was doing there. At that point I didn't know his boat was docked at my dock and he wasn't wearing a sign that said "I'm retrieving a lure from your beach". As for keeping my mouth shut and just letting him do his thing because he now knows where I live? (if my 12 gauge had been in my hand, he'd also know I am well armed). For many decades, that has not been my style. Casper Milktoast I am not, and it has served me well so far. The guy has not been seen again in over two years! Ironically, or understandably, the property owners that seems to have the most problems with fishermen, live in Fish Cove. __________________ Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~

07-05-2018, 04:56 PM	#3
greeleyhill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 94 Thanks: 57 Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts	This seems appropriate to offer As quoted "...As for keeping my mouth shut and just letting him do his thing because he now knows where I live? (if my 12 gauge had been in my hand, he'd also know I am well armed). For many decades, that has not been my style. Casper Milktoast I am not, and it has served me well so far." For garysanfran... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfX_oDzOxsc Last edited by greeleyhill; 07-05-2018 at 05:24 PM. Reason: Typo

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07-05-2018, 09:18 AM	#4
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,314 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	"Any port in a storm" is not just a slogan. If you are in jeopardy, go ahead and tie off. I think the legal principle is called 'force majeur' or you take the lesser of competing harms. Dieing/Scaring the crap out of your kids Vs. pissing off a dock-owner is a no brainer. If being nice doesn't work just tell them you'll wait peacefully for the cops to come. The cop may pretend to give you a warning but I doubt it. I used to help manage a large private beach in Laconia. I had no problem chasing off people who thought it was a park but if someone tied up during a storm it wasn't worth getting wet to even go talk to them. I've jump started more than a few who drifted up also. That being said, I would have words with someone who over-cast 20 feet onto the land even if they did stay away from the houses.

07-06-2018, 12:36 PM	#6
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,598 Thanks: 1,418 Thanked 1,705 Times in 1,109 Posts	I don't think MP will enforce town ordinances that say no docking 2am-6am or whatever. I have also been told that if you have to leave your boat at a public dock, a call to the local PD with an explanation goes a long way. I've also heard that if you stayed at the dock due to foul weather, an officer might tell you "You can't stay here." and then walk away. These officers have a job to do, but they are not without understanding. As with a speeding stop, you can get a ticket or you can get a warning, officer discretion. "You can't do that on Winni..." in my experience is frequently unsubstantiated. What we called "a sea story" in the Navy. Usually starts with "No shxx! This really happened." I've been at a lot of meetings with folks from various state agencies. Ask about some of these things and they say "Yeah. We've heard that too. Nobody knows where the story started."