The Dive?

[Hillcountry]

They were out on the lake this morning...I snapped this on my way back from Alton Bay after fishing...this sandbar is really nice but too cool to stop this morning.

[dippasan]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

They were out on the lake this morning...I snapped this on my way back from Alton Bay after fishing...this sandbar is really nice but too cool to stop this morning.

It's a floating eye sore.
And Like Gump said "that's all I got ta say 'bout that

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by dippasan

It's a floating eye sore.
And Like Gump said "that's all I got ta say 'bout that

I don't think it is an eye sore but I also think they need to move around the lake out of respect for the residents of Sleepers.

Hopefully for your sake they are just staying near WOW for a test period then will start alternating locations

[noreast]

I think the old men with there shirts off is an eye sore, but the boat looks pretty good.

[Phantom]

I am not bashing the Dive-- I think it is a great adventure and wish them luck and hope it is long term successful after all their expense. It should be considered a welcome addition to the Lake whether you plan try it out or find it "not your style"

The one thing the recent picture raised in my mind -- as a NH Health code - aren't shoes suppose to be worn where food is being served ?

It is a legit question of mine.

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been. I suspect staged as not a sole has come out and said they've been aboard as yet.



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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Phantom

I am not bashing the Dive-- I think it is a great adventure and wish them luck and hope it is long term successful after all their expense. It should be considered a welcome addition to the Lake whether you plan try it out or find it "not your style"

The one thing the recent picture raised in my mind -- as a NH Health code - aren't shoes suppose to be worn where food is being served ?

It is a legit question of mine.

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been.

Not sure about the law, but I have seen many hop off their boat at Town Docks and eat with no shoes on at the restaurant

[Phantom]

I was actually thinking of Town Docks when I wrote the above -- I believe they have a sign for shirts & shoes must be worn


Something witty along the lines of NO Shirt, No Shoes , No Service.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Phantom

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been. I suspect staged as not a sole has come out and said they've been aboard as yet.

I am not sure that using a forum with 30-50 regular posters is the best benchmark for determining any aspect of The Dive's success or failure. Plus, it has only been a week or two.

[tis]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I am not sure that using a forum with 30-50 regular posters is the best benchmark for determining any aspect of The Dive's success or failure. Plus, it has only been a week or two.

I wondered the same thing, but did see somebody say they went on it. I think his name was Ryan?

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I am not sure that using a forum with 30-50 regular posters is the best benchmark for determining any aspect of The Dive's success or failure. Plus, it has only been a week or two.

Phantom is Befuddled

Where did I raise any questions of Success or failure based on forum members ? In my opening remark - I simply wished the new owners "Best of Luck" and the Lake as a whole should embrace the new venture whether its your cup of tea or not.

My post was a legit question about the need for shoes (and/or shirts) to be worn in an eating establishment in NH …………. period the end -- whether the Dive or Patrick's Pub -- irrelevant of location


My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Phantom is Befuddled

Where did I raise any questions of Success or failure based on forum members ? In my opening remark - I simply wished the new owners "Best of Luck" and the Lake as a whole should embrace the new venture whether its your cup of tea or not.

My post was a legit question about the need for shoes (and/or shirts) to be worn in an eating establishment in NH …………. period the end -- whether the Dive or Patrick's Pub -- irrelevant of location


My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

Not sure I understand your post where you say "they are not open commercially" and photos are "staged". They have been at Smalls Cove all week except today according to their Facebook page and posts to that page with patrons visiting the vessel. Am I missing something? Honest question

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Phantom is Befuddled
My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

I'm not sure what you mean by the Dive is not open for business commercially?? Saw them selling food and drink last weekend at West Alton Sandbar as well as this week...

Pics on their facebook page have not been staged. Friends of mine were on it very recently and their picture showed up on their facebook page.

Dan

[Phantom]

My totally BAD !

Last I knew they went on their shakedown cruze and that was it ---

Need to scold my daughter who is at WAM for not telling me they were now operational

Withdraw all those comment -- except wishing them success.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Phantom

My totally BAD !

Last I knew they went on their shakedown cruze and that was it ---

Need to scold my daughter who is at WAM for not telling me they were now operational

Withdraw all those comment -- except wishing them success.

LOL no worries, honestly thought I may be missing something

[noreast]

I think if the pics were staged the "talent" would be of a higher caliber?

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Phantom

My totally BAD !


Need to scold my daughter who is at WAM for not telling me they were now operational.

NAH, She may not have known it was operational. Shame on those that make disparaging comments without the same knowledge

[Reilly]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Phantom is Befuddled

Where did I raise any questions of Success or failure based on forum members ? In my opening remark - I simply wished the new owners "Best of Luck" and the Lake as a whole should embrace the new venture whether its your cup of tea or not.

My post was a legit question about the need for shoes (and/or shirts) to be worn in an eating establishment in NH …………. period the end -- whether the Dive or Patrick's Pub -- irrelevant of location


My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

Not sure about being staged but no one on board seems to have food or a drink not much money being made

[betterthanbacon]

Originally Posted by Phantom

I am not bashing the Dive-- I think it is a great adventure and wish them luck and hope it is long term successful after all their expense. It should be considered a welcome addition to the Lake whether you plan try it out or find it "not your style"

The one thing the recent picture raised in my mind -- as a NH Health code - aren't shoes suppose to be worn where food is being served ?

It is a legit question of mine.

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been. I suspect staged as not a sole has come out and said they've been aboard as yet.

The Nasswa promotes no shoes and shirts.
When you dock the dock hands tell you.
NO SHOES
NO SHIRTS
NO PROBLEM

[Taz]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I don't think it is an eye sore but I also think they need to move around the lake out of respect for the residents of Sleepers.

Hopefully for your sake they are just staying near WOW for a test period then will start alternating locations

Does anyone still think the dive is going to move around? Except for a ticketed event or private function it appears the Dive will anchor in Smalls. It will take at least 2 - 2 1/2 hrs to get to Braun. At least 10 miles and it travels 5 mph tops and that is if weather is favorable. At least that to get to the Margate plus would have to leave very early morning to avoid channel traffic. By their own admission on their FB page when anyone asks when are they going to anchor somewhere else they answer,"its a long ride elsewhere" They say they need proximity to Smalls for supplies and to shuttle employees. Looks like residents of the Smalls cove area will have to endure the view.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by Taz

Does anyone still think the dive is going to move around? Except for a ticketed event or private function it appears the Dive will anchor in Smalls. It will take at least 2 - 2 1/2 hrs to get to Braun. At least 10 miles and it travels 5 mph tops and that is if weather is favorable. At least that to get to the Margate plus would have to leave very early morning to avoid channel traffic. By their own admission on their FB page when anyone asks when are they going to anchor somewhere else they answer,"its a long ride elsewhere" They say they need proximity to Smalls for supplies and to shuttle employees. Looks like residents of the Smalls cove area will have to endure the view.

Its going to be permanently, or semi-permanently, tied up at a waterside location within 3 years.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Taz

Does anyone still think the dive is going to move around? Except for a ticketed event or private function it appears the Dive will anchor in Smalls. It will take at least 2 - 2 1/2 hrs to get to Braun. At least 10 miles and it travels 5 mph tops and that is if weather is favorable. At least that to get to the Margate plus would have to leave very early morning to avoid channel traffic. By their own admission on their FB page when anyone asks when are they going to anchor somewhere else they answer,"its a long ride elsewhere" They say they need proximity to Smalls for supplies and to shuttle employees. Looks like residents of the Smalls cove area will have to endure the view.

Give them a chance. They have only been operating a few weeks and didn’t get a whole season in this year. I hope they are using this first abbreviated season to work out all their kinks and next season will be different.

I have passed by quite a few times and have been there once. It is crowded at times obviously especially from Friday to Sunday but in my opinion they spent 600k and will need to move around to increase business and awareness. Not everyone is on this forum. Lol.


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[Taz]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Give them a chance. They have only been operating a few weeks and didn’t get a whole season in this year. I hope they are using this first abbreviated season to work out all their kinks and next season will be different.

I have passed by quite a few times and have been there once. It is crowded at times obviously especially from Friday to Sunday but in my opinion they spent 600k and will need to move around to increase business and awareness. Not everyone is on this forum. Lol.


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Give them a chance to anchor where other than Smalls? They need a sand bar to "spud" as they say and to allow customers to walk to the Dive. That leaves Braun and the Margate. Braun is a 2 1/2 HR ride 1 way in favorable weather. They said they need proximity to WAM for supplies and shuttling employees. Margate same factors plus must navigate channel early morning to avoid 2 way boat traffic. All of the above is by the Dive own admission. They have pretty much said Smalls is their anchor location. So where else will they anchor?

[Hillcountry]

Passing beneath the Wiers Channl bridge yesterday I turned back to look at the distance between the water and the bridge and even though I had thought the Dive wouldn’t fit under previously, now I think it might fit.
Of course, actually The Dive actually going through the channel is another “thing” entirely.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Taz

Give them a chance to anchor where other than Smalls? They need a sand bar to "spud" as they say and to allow customers to walk to the Dive. That leaves Braun and the Margate. Braun is a 2 1/2 HR ride 1 way in favorable weather. They said they need proximity to WAM for supplies and shuttling employees. Margate same factors plus must navigate channel early morning to avoid 2 way boat traffic. All of the above is by the Dive own admission. They have pretty much said Smalls is their anchor location. So where else will they anchor?

Yes that’s what I am saying. Give them a chance to work out their issues including supplies and storage and hopefully next season they will venture to other sand bars. Like Margate, Braun and Patrician Shores.

I to not think it is fair for them to stay in one location but they are a legal permitted business and with any new business adjustments and changes need to be made especially in year one. They have NEVER said they are definitely not leaving Smalls Cove.

I wish them great success but at the same time move around as not to disturb the Smalls Cove area everyday.


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[Taz]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Yes that’s what I am saying. Give them a chance to work out their issues including supplies and storage and hopefully next season they will venture to other sand bars. Like Margate, Braun and Patrician Shores.

I to not think it is fair for them to stay in one location but they are a legal permitted business and with any new business adjustments and changes need to be made especially in year one. They have NEVER said they are definitely not leaving Smalls Cove.

I wish them great success but at the same time move around as not to disturb the Smalls Cove area everyday.


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The Dive has said on their FB page that WAM/Smalls is their home base, business has very good and it makes the most sense for them to anchor at Smalls. I don't see how you work out how long it takes to get to other sand bars. You can't change distance and they have to repower to change speed and it's already designed for 2 250 outboards. They will have to figure out how to supply enough for a whole day. You can't change shuttling employees unless who boards the Dive works the entire day. I think all the logistical challenges make it not worth anchoring elsewhere. I wish them luck also. I just don't see any other good options to anchor given these issues.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Taz

The Dive has said on their FB page that WAM/Smalls is their home base, business has very good and it makes the most sense for them to anchor at Smalls. I don't see how you work out how long it takes to get to other sand bars. You can't change distance and they have to repower to change speed and it's already designed for 2 250 outboards. They will have to figure out how to supply enough for a whole day. You can't change shuttling employees unless who boards the Dive works the entire day. I think all the logistical challenges make it not worth anchoring elsewhere. I wish them luck also. I just don't see any other good options to anchor given these issues.

If your correct then very poor business planning especially after spending 600k . From a financial point of view I don’t think they will be able prosper by staying just in Small’s and if the neighbors start to complain it could get ugly.


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[Taz]

Originally Posted by joey2665

If your correct then very poor business planning especially after spending 600k . From a financial point of view I don’t think they will be able prosper by staying just in Small’s and if the neighbors start to complain it could get ugly.


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I agree with you on this. Given the owners BIO as a marine construction manager, extensive lake and barge experience, diver, coast Guard he should have forseen the issue getting to other areas of the lake with that design. Having experience creating a successfull tapas bar the owner should have for seen the issue with supplying the Dive for distance and shuttling employees. Us armchair quarterbacks can only speculate. Only time will tell how it will work out.

[Shreddy]

I recently heard they ordered four mercury verado 400r's to install during the offseason.

[baygo]

Originally Posted by Taz

I agree with you on this. Given the owners BIO as a marine construction manager, extensive lake and barge experience, diver, coast Guard he should have forseen the issue getting to other areas of the lake with that design. Having experience creating a successfull tapas bar the owner should have for seen the issue with supplying the Dive for distance and shuttling employees. Us armchair quarterbacks can only speculate. Only time will tell how it will work out.

Which tapas bar? I love tapas

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Give them a chance. They have only been operating a few weeks and didn’t get a whole season in this year. I hope they are using this first abbreviated season to work out all their kinks and next season will be different.

I have passed by quite a few times and have been there once. It is crowded at times obviously especially from Friday to Sunday but in my opinion they spent 600k and will need to move around to increase business and awareness. Not everyone is on this forum. Lol.


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Yup..they spent the "better part of" 1M.