Heating System Replacement

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Is always best to go first class for heat and hot water ....... go RIELLO (Italy) and go RINNAI (Japan) and you won't go a-wrong!

Do they sell those at Walmart?

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Do they sell those at Walmart?

Just checked at walmart.com and yes, to my surprise, it has Rinnai natural gas and propane items.

For $954.29 walmart.com will ship you, free freight, to a Walmart store, a 24,000-btu naural gas or propane Rinnai wall furnace. Believe this same item costs about $1500 at Amerigas in Laconia.

Back in 1998, I got one for the then discount price of about $800, installed it myself, and it has worked totally perfect ever since, with no maintenance what-so-ever.... the greatest, most reliable, warm & comfy hot air heater ever made ..... now comes in beige or white.

With the recent spat of global warming, will heat still be needed in the winter?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Just checked at walmart.com and yes, to my surprise it has Rinnai natural gas and propane items.

For $954.29 walmart.com will ship you, free freight, to a Walmart store, a 24,000-btu naural gas or propane wall furnace. Believe this same item costs about $1500 at Amerigas in Laconia.

Back in 1998, I got one for a discount price of about $800, installed it myself, and it has worked totally perfect ever since, with no maintenance what-so-ever.... the greatest hot air heater ever made!

I have three friends that have bought those new wall boilers in the past four years and have had nothing but trouble with them. I've had zero issues with my conventional boiler.
But that's beside the point, the OP said he has oil and they don't make those wall units for oil.

[fatlazyless]

....omg ...... the walmart.com has Riello which is oil, super duper quality, efficiency, made in Italy!

What is the world coming to, when walmart.com has these types of installer items ....... lord have mercy..... on the poor slob who installs it hisself?

[ITD]

Charlie, I had several bad experiences with the Burnham castings cracking (happened twice on my boiler) so I pulled it and installed a Buderus. Too lazy to go downstairs and see which model, but I believe it is the 215. I opted for the Logamatic 2107 control which was an additional $1,200 I believe but would not do that again. I have forced hot water baseboard, the 2107 is designed for European systems which have dial type thermostats on the radiators which control each room, not the systems typically found here.

My baseboards need hot water to convect properly, the basis of the 2107 is that it provides cooler water when the temperature is warmer outside which works well for European style radiators but not too well for baseboard. My issue is on mainly spring/late winter days where it is cold at night but warms up quickly in the morning. The house is cold, but the control sees it's warmer outside so it send cooler water to the baseboard which doesn't really heat the house that well. It's a small issue, but I think a basic cold start control would work better for baseboard, or a control that is designed specifically for baseboard if you want to vary the temps. That said, we used to burn somewhere in the area of 1,000+ gallons of oil a winter season, the new boiler burned about 600 gallons last year so it did save us money. If you have radiant floor heat then the 2107 control is probably ideal for that. I use Foley oil and I know they do installs, but not sure what boilers they use. I've been thinking about changing out my Winnipesaukee boiler, but it is pretty efficient and still in good shape. Good luck.

[Charlie T]

Originally Posted by ITD

Charlie, I had several bad experiences with the Burnham castings cracking (happened twice on my boiler) so I pulled it and installed a Buderus.

I was considering a Burnham 3 pass boiler until I tried to get some info on the direct vent feature directly from Burnham . I could find nothing on the website so I filled out a detailed online form with my name, address and contact info asking for what I needed. I got a snippy email back from the "customer service dept" telling me they don't talk to homeowners and certainly would not provide me with any info on their products. I was then informed that if I wanted that info I should go thru their website to find out who the " local distributor" was in my area and that they might be able to help me. If I wanted the run around I would not have gone directly to the source. If this is how they treat potential customers I can just imagine how little regard they would have for me once my money was in their hands. Burnham fell right off the list of boiler choices for me