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Old 02-11-2019, 08:56 PM   #1
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After seeing the picture at the beginning of this thread, if my island visitors asked me to take them to see "Sally's Gut", I'd have two possible destinations!

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After seeing the picture at the beginning of this thread, if my island visitors asked me to take them to see "Sally's Gut", I'd have two possible destinations!

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The U.S. Supreme Court typically agrees to take up just 1 percent of the cases it is asked to hear, but the divided 3-2 ruling in February might sway the nation’s highest court to take the case.

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There are two sanctioned "clothing optional" beaches here in Portland, Oregon: Collins Beach on Sauvie's Island and Rooster Rock State Park.

The authorities allow it, public opinion seems to be indifferent, and there are no apparent problems with public nudity fomenting and inducing sex crimes etc.

How is it legally correct or fair to allow it here (in designated areas) yet completely prohibit it in NH?
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Don't they reject you in NH if your headlights are too low?
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LMAO...she certainly fails my high beams inspection!!
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How is it legally correct or fair to allow it here (in designated areas) yet completely prohibit it in NH?
Because the people of NH are more conservative in their values...that's the way we like it! We certainly do not want to be like "Portland Oregon" or other similar "left" coast cities which have turned into cesspools of liberal utopia!

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Because the people of NH are more conservative in their values...that's the way we like it! We certainly do not want to be like "Portland Oregon" or other similar "left" coast cities which have turned into cesspools of liberal utopia!

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Last time I checked NH voted Dem each time last many presidential elections. NH has voted ONCE for the GOP presidential candidate since 1988.
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Last time I checked NH voted Dem each time last many presidential elections. NH has voted ONCE for the GOP presidential candidate since 1988.
Who cares? What does this have to do with how the people born and raised here cherish the values of the "live Free or Die State"?

You can keep Portland and all it has to "offer" (public defacation and drug use, needle littered sidewalks, homeless encampments, topless beaches etc, etc.) I'll take good old NH any day!!

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Who cares? What does this have to do with how the people born and raised here cherish the values of the "live Free or Die State"?

You can keep Portland and all it has to "offer" (public defacation and drug use, needle littered sidewalks, homeless encampments, topless beaches etc, etc.) I'll take good old NH any day!!

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NH is not immune to that. When was the last time you visited Manchester?
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NH is not immune to that. When was the last time you visited Manchester?
I was born and grew up in Manchester, have a business in Manchester and am in Manchester right now as a matter of fact!

Your joking right if your trying to,compare Manchester to Portland? Not even remotely close...not by a longshot!

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I was born and grew up in Manchester, have a business in Manchester and am in Manchester right now as a matter of fact!

Your joking right if your trying to,compare Manchester to Portland? Not even remotely close...not by a longshot!

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I've never been to Portland but Manchester is not immune to the problems of other big cities.
A good friend of mine that lives in Amherst has drug addicted son the same age as my son. He goes to Manchester daily to shoot up. He's been in rehab so many times I can't count.
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I've never been to Portland but Manchester is not immune to the problems of other big cities.
You obviously have never been to Manchester either as there is no public defacation, no needles on the sidewalks, no topless beaches (that I know of ) and there are no homeless encampments on public sidewalks or streets... What are you trying to compare??
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You obviously have never been to Manchester either as there is no public defacation, no needles on the sidewalks, no topless beaches (that I know of ) and there are no homeless encampments on public sidewalks or streets... What are you trying to compare??
I guess, out of sight, out of mind!
Wasn't it Trump that said NH was a "drug infested den"?
I guess that was fake news.

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I guess, out of sight, out of mind!
Wasn't it Trump that said NH was a "drug infested den"?
I guess that was fake news.
Yes and he was making reference to Laconia which has a serious problem... Maybe you should stick to home issues you know something about south of the border, like Lawrence which seems to always find their way here across the border...
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Yes and he was making reference to Laconia which has a serious problem... Maybe you should stick to home issues you know something about south of the border, like Lawrence which seems to always find their way here across the border...
I'm glad you're happy in Manchester. I'm fine just passing by it on the highway, nothing there I want to see.
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I guess, out of sight, out of mind!
Wasn't it Trump that said NH was a "drug infested den"?
I guess that was fake news.
I've been to Manchester several times. I have also been to Portland, San Francisco, and Seattle a fair bit (among several other places).

In those other cities the problem is hardly "out of sight, out of mind", it is more like "watch where you are walking so you don't step in ****". Having a bum in San Francisco hassle you for "some spare change" while wearing a $150 pair of Timberland's is quite fun (I offered to give him $50 for the boots, my offer was not accepted...).

Manchester, and other NH towns, definitely have their issues, but I'd take them any day over most of the large west coast towns.
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I've been to Manchester several times. I have also been to Portland, San Francisco, and Seattle a fair bit (among several other places).

In those other cities the problem is hardly "out of sight, out of mind", it is more like "watch where you are walking so you don't step in ****". Having a bum in San Francisco hassle you for "some spare change" while wearing a $150 pair of Timberland's is quite fun (I offered to give him $50 for the boots, my offer was not accepted...).

Manchester, and other NH towns, definitely have their issues, but I'd take them any day over most of the large west coast towns.
I don't disagree but don't act like NH doesn't have it's fair share of drug problems, every city does.
And to put a political spin on it as though it's a liberal-Democratic problem, as some have posted, is ridiculous. This problem was caused by the Corporate greed of the big drug Companies. They have created more addicts over the past 10 to 20 years than illegal drugs coming in from other counties.
These illegal drugs are just feeding the addicts that got hooked on legal drugs now that the legal drug supplies are being more closely regulated.
They need to put more of these drug Company CEO's in jail and hope they don't get pardoned.
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I don't disagree but don't act like NH doesn't have it's fair share of drug problems, every city does.
And to put a political spin on it as though it's a liberal-Democratic problem, as some have posted, is ridiculous. This problem was caused by the Corporate greed of the big drug Companies. They have created more addicts over the past 10 to 20 years than illegal drugs coming in from other counties.
These illegal drugs are just feeding the addicts that got hooked on legal drugs now that the legal drug supplies are being more closely regulated.
They need to put more of these drug Company CEO's in jail and hope they don't get pardoned.
I don't think all has been caused by corporate greed as Doctors have been over scribing for the last 30 years or so, and this has led to "some" of the issues. Now one could argue that the Companies have sent their sales forces out to the Doctors and directly to the American public via television ads.....

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The case is still active: waiting now to see if USSC will accept the appeal for review:


see: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...court-n1097611
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Can't recall the state, however I did see where it has been ruled legal somewhere. Possibly Colorado?

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I've never been to Portland but Manchester is not immune to the problems of other big cities.
A good friend of mine that lives in Amherst has drug addicted son the same age as my son. He goes to Manchester daily to shoot up. He's been in rehab so many times I can't count.
I've never been SO lost as when driving through Manchester.

While making many "lost" turns through Manchester neighborhoods—it's scary—you'll see a lot of "Zombies" standing around.
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NH is not immune to that. When was the last time you visited Manchester?
You think Manchester has a topless beach? I don't think there's even a topless bar. We visit Manchester frequently for a variety of reasons. My son lives there, my wife works there. I worked there for many years. Nice place. I'd suggest Manchester is continuing to improve. Can't say the same for left coast cities.
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Because the people of NH are more conservative in their values...that's the way we like it! We certainly do not want to be like "Portland Oregon" or other similar "left" coast cities which have turned into cesspools of liberal utopia! Dan
The people of Oregon are probably as "conservative in their values" as you are, except for those living in Portland and Eugene.

Get out of the above two cities and Oregonians are quite redneck, I mean conservative.
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There are two sanctioned "clothing optional" beaches here in Portland, Oregon: Collins Beach on Sauvie's Island and Rooster Rock State Park.

The authorities allow it, public opinion seems to be indifferent, and there are no apparent problems with public nudity fomenting and inducing sex crimes etc.

How is it legally correct or fair to allow it here (in designated areas) yet completely prohibit it in NH?
Very simple, as you stated, the TWO areas in Oregon are SANCTIONED. I would also bet that they are secluded areas.

Weirs beach (where this took place) is visible on 2 sides by road and 2 sides by water. Plus it is a family destination.

If you want to swing your junk in public then you should probably start by finding a secluded place that is out of public view, then contact your Senator.
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