The Dive!

fatlazyless · 07-27-2019, 12:10 PM

Today's July 27 LaDaSun has an article with a photo: 'Weirs Beach dust-up over floating bar called The Dive' (google that) that is totally informative and incredibly well researched.

Basically, the Simpson Ave residential neighbors want The Dive to be moved to the other side of the large Pier building, close to the 220' Mount Washington cruise ship, while The Dive owners want it to remain in its' existing spot.

Here's another outcome that wasn't mentioned: simply turn the barge sideways so it is parallel parked/docked up against the Pier. At 22' wide x 62' long x 22' high with the awning, turning it sideways would reduce the silhouette from 22' high x 66' long down to a silhouette of 22' high x 22' wide which is 1/3 the size ..... simply by parallel parking .... a big difference.

Who knows, but if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3, it could be an easier go with the big barge parked parallel to the dock as opposed to adjacent, as it now is, which is basically a 22' high x 62' long wall that blocks the neighbor's long time held and cherished Winnipesaukee big money, water view.

How's that for a solution!

By parallel parking like this, basically everyone; Flightcraft (landlord), The Dive (tenant), & the neighbors (residential abuttors) should all be unhappy with the end result, all except for the nearby Mount Washington cruise ship which is the biggest fish in the lake. Seems that having all parties involved being dissatisfied with the result could be the best decision where everyone loses a little.

jazzman · 07-27-2019, 12:33 PM

I think the issue is that it needs spuds down to "dock" nose in to the dock. This isn't exactly a normal docking situation and it looks like that is what Laconia is objecting to. Yes the owners of those properties knew they were next to a commercial dock. There is no way they would have envisioned a floating bar docking in that manner by their property.

joey2665 · 07-27-2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzman

I think the issue is that it needs spuds down to "dock" nose in to the dock. This isn't exactly a normal docking situation and it looks like that is what Laconia is objecting to. Yes the owners of those properties knew they were next to a commercial dock. There is no way they would have envisioned a floating bar docking in that manner by their property.

True, but it is a commercial dock as you said and has been for decade but I do agree that spuds down creates a new unique twist

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Wifi-1 · 07-27-2019, 01:03 PM

Would spuds down create a dock, and a dock extension permit be needed ?

This could go on for ever, lol

Descant · 07-27-2019, 02:24 PM

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fatlazyless · 09-04-2019, 11:04 AM

quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote

Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting?

joey2665 · 09-04-2019, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote

Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting?

Also before the Board is changing the Colonial Theatre from "Ownership" to "Condominium"

TiltonBB · 09-04-2019, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote

Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting?

The Dive was not on the agenda and was not discussed.

fatlazyless · 09-04-2019, 10:26 PM

"Planning Director Dean Trefethen said The Dive can continue its present operations at the pier in the short term and before the Sept 3 Planning Board meeting. That's when the issue will be taken up if the owner of the pier, East Coast Flightcraft desides to continue to host The Dive."

Quote from July 27 LaDaSun report ..... see link to 'an article' at top of my old post #308

Oh well ........ who knows ....... and who really gives a puh-tootie?

WakeboardMom · 09-08-2019, 05:38 PM

The nice young man at the gas dock tonight said the Dive hadn’t been open in a few days. Any news since the meeting on September 3?

07-27-2019, 12:10 PM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,789 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,024 Times in 745 Posts	..... parallel parking only here! Today's July 27 LaDaSun has an article with a photo: 'Weirs Beach dust-up over floating bar called The Dive' (google that) that is totally informative and incredibly well researched. Basically, the Simpson Ave residential neighbors want The Dive to be moved to the other side of the large Pier building, close to the 220' Mount Washington cruise ship, while The Dive owners want it to remain in its' existing spot. Here's another outcome that wasn't mentioned: simply turn the barge sideways so it is parallel parked/docked up against the Pier. At 22' wide x 62' long x 22' high with the awning, turning it sideways would reduce the silhouette from 22' high x 66' long down to a silhouette of 22' high x 22' wide which is 1/3 the size ..... simply by parallel parking .... a big difference. Who knows, but if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3, it could be an easier go with the big barge parked parallel to the dock as opposed to adjacent, as it now is, which is basically a 22' high x 62' long wall that blocks the neighbor's long time held and cherished Winnipesaukee big money, water view. How's that for a solution! By parallel parking like this, basically everyone; Flightcraft (landlord), The Dive (tenant), & the neighbors (residential abuttors) should all be unhappy with the end result, all except for the nearby Mount Washington cruise ship which is the biggest fish in the lake. Seems that having all parties involved being dissatisfied with the result could be the best decision where everyone loses a little. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 07-27-2019 at 05:06 PM.

07-27-2019, 02:24 PM	#5
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,411 Thanks: 1,362 Thanked 1,635 Times in 1,067 Posts	Marketing 101 or VRBO Reserve now before 2020 rate increase. Walk to new floating 4 star bar and grill. Enjoy their music from your deck. This vessel cruises, so limited opportunity to participate.

09-04-2019, 11:04 AM	#6
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,789 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,024 Times in 745 Posts	quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

09-04-2019, 10:26 PM	#9
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,789 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,024 Times in 745 Posts	"Planning Director Dean Trefethen said The Dive can continue its present operations at the pier in the short term and before the Sept 3 Planning Board meeting. That's when the issue will be taken up if the owner of the pier, East Coast Flightcraft desides to continue to host The Dive." Quote from July 27 LaDaSun report ..... see link to 'an article' at top of my old post #308 Oh well ........ who knows ....... and who really gives a puh-tootie? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

09-08-2019, 05:38 PM	#10
WakeboardMom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NH X 2 Posts: 508 Thanks: 595 Thanked 113 Times in 92 Posts	The nice young man at the gas dock tonight said the Dive hadn’t been open in a few days. Any news since the meeting on September 3? __________________ MarieM

07-27-2019, 12:33 PM	#2
jazzman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mont Vernon NH & Big Barndoor Island Posts: 323 Thanks: 4 Thanked 184 Times in 62 Posts	I think the issue is that it needs spuds down to "dock" nose in to the dock. This isn't exactly a normal docking situation and it looks like that is what Laconia is objecting to. Yes the owners of those properties knew they were next to a commercial dock. There is no way they would have envisioned a floating bar docking in that manner by their property.

07-27-2019, 01:03 PM	#4
Wifi-1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 213 Thanks: 196 Thanked 87 Times in 57 Posts	Would spuds down create a dock, and a dock extension permit be needed ? This could go on for ever, lol

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