Boating License

[Mee-n-Mac]

Originally Posted by Misty Blue

{snip} Does NHMP supercede the constitution because we are on a "sole state" body of water? Can a state trooper pull me over without cause on RT-25 because it is a state road? Or are we getting a 'leetle too big for our britches.

Misty Blue.

You may want to look over this thread. As NW said there must (should) have been some valid reason the MP could "articulate" for the stop and search. Jetski and age might well have been the reason re: your daughters (though I'd not rule out "cutie in bikini"). Not sure what it could have been in your brother's case but I'd have asked what the problem was.

[Airwaves]

Nightwing wrote:

On Winni, you won't be asked to produce a flare gun, but on the coast you would.

Actually you wouldn't be required to produce a flare gun on the ocean either.

You WOULD be required to show a daytime and nighttime visual distress signal. Non-pyrotechnic visual signals that are approved are Orange flag (daytime only) Electric distress light (nighttime only)

Obviously the most common form of visual distress signals are pyrotechnic in nature, but its is not the exclusive form of VDS.

This USCG site explains more about VDS.
http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/metlife/distress.htm

NW wrote:

If your ID indicates you are within the age group that is required to carry a boating ed certificate, then you will be asked to produce it. No "just in case" applies here.

Actually my "just in case" means "in the event" that I am boarded and the NHMP insists upon seeing a NH boating education certificate after I produce a USCGAux boating education certificate.

BTW, where does a cutie in a bikini keep her boating education certificate?

[NightWing]

Originally Posted by Airwaves

Nightwing wrote:

Actually you wouldn't be required to produce a flare gun on the ocean either.

You WOULD be required to show a daytime and nighttime visual distress signal. Non-pyrotechnic visual signals that are approved are Orange flag (daytime only) Electric distress light (nighttime only)

Obviously the most common form of visual distress signals are pyrotechnic in nature, but its is not the exclusive form of VDS.

This USCG site explains more about VDS.
http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/metlife/distress.htm

NW wrote:

Actually my "just in case" means "in the event" that I am boarded and the NHMP insists upon seeing a NH boating education certificate after I produce a USCGAux boating education certificate.

BTW, where does a cutie in a bikini keep her boating education certificate?

Flare gun was a quick reference to VDS, but you are technically correct.

As far as your USCG Aux Boating Certificate, as long as it was a NASBLA approved course, then that would satisfy the requirements for a certificate.

Your reference to being "boarded" is not correct unless you are in coastal waters.

As far as where a young lady keeps her BE certificate.......well that would be her choice, but most PWCs have a hatch or two.

[Misty Blue]

NightWing:

Please understand that I am a huge fan of the NHMP. They have pulled my chestnuts out of the fire more than once.

I am also a huge fan of the US Constitution and when I read or see something that theatens the bill of rights I start to worry.

But we are talking civics here where we are supposed to be talking about cool stuff! Nuff said.

So to the MP; Hip, Hip, Hooray for the folks in grey!

Misty Blue

[Airwaves]

NW wrote:

Your reference to being "boarded" is not correct unless you are in coastal waters.

Perhaps the term "boarded" is not appropriate for NHMP, but the result is the same.

So, the USCG orders my vessel to "stand down and prepare to be boarded", and the NH MP orders my vessel to "stand down....and ...'what'?... pull over to the curb"?

The bottom line is a law enforcement agency has (to use an automobile term)... PULLED YOU OVER!

You want to say I haven't been "boarded" because an officer didn't step foot on my boat?
Fine!

The entire point of my original post is to say that in "IN THE EVENT" that NHMP "PULLS ME OVER" and demands to see my NH Boating Certificate and I present him/her with a USCGAux Boating Certificate instead (which was accepted by NASBLA years before NH was accepted) and he/she rejects my USCGAux boating certificate as being valid, I will produce a copy of Section 270-D:15, and see what happens.

That's all. Out.