Sea-Doo GTI vs. GTX

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I have owned MANY pwc over my years at the lake. I will say I prefer Yamaha over Seadoo. I typically buy large, supercharged machines (RXT, RXT-X, FX-SHO, FX-SHO cruiser) so my experience may be different than others, I have never owned a smaller Doo. I found the Yamaha to be much more reliable in both short and long term. I don't love closed cooling on a pwc, there is no need for it on the lake where you are looking to run. If on the ocean it certainly has its benefits.

Huge storage has never been a big deal to me, I don't feel that I need to carry everything including the kitchen sink with me when I ride. I will say I really like the Sea Doo speaker option over the new Yamaha setup. If I was getting a Seadoo damn right it would have a stereo.

Thanks for your thoughts. The audio option is definitely one of the features that is leading me to Sea-Doo. The other ones are the Ergolock sides--I've not sat on the new Yamaha skis, but I felt my legs were like riding a horse on the one I did ride (I've got tree trunk legs)--rear platform size, handgrip palm rests, and trim (the VX Cruiser HO, which would be the Yamaha I'd be looking at/is comparable, doesn't have trim).

In terms of reliability, what I've found are four things: 1. Maintenance matters for all machines, but definitely for Sea-Doo. Almost all of the failures could be traced to maintenance. 2. Sea-Doo is ahead of the curve with features, but those features need time for kinks to be worked out. 3. Supercharged machines bring an extra complexity that, along with #1 and #2 seem to have hit Sea-Doo's reputation for reliability. #4. Dealer matters. From my research, much of the "non-fatal" issues are the result of poor dealer prep. Loose hoses, improper seals, etc. that should easily be avoidable with a good/thorough dealer.

I'm still a little open to Yamaha as DaSilva's sells both, and I'm looking forward to working with them, but there's a lot to keep me focused on Sea-Doo.

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[codeman671]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Thanks for your thoughts. The audio option is definitely one of the features that is leading me to Sea-Doo. The other ones are the Ergolock sides--I've not sat on the new Yamaha skis, but I felt my legs were like riding a horse on the one I did ride (I've got tree trunk legs)--rear platform size, handgrip palm rests, and trim (the VX Cruiser HO, which would be the Yamaha I'd be looking at/is comparable, doesn't have trim).

In terms of reliability, what I've found are four things: 1. Maintenance matters for all machines, but definitely for Sea-Doo. Almost all of the failures could be traced to maintenance. 2. Sea-Doo is ahead of the curve with features, but those features need time for kinks to be worked out. 3. Supercharged machines bring an extra complexity that, along with #1 and #2 seem to have hit Sea-Doo's reputation for reliability. #4. Dealer matters. From my research, much of the "non-fatal" issues are the result of poor dealer prep. Loose hoses, improper seals, etc. that should easily be avoidable with a good/thorough dealer.

I'm still a little open to Yamaha as DaSilva's sells both, and I'm looking forward to working with them, but there's a lot to keep me focused on Sea-Doo.

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I find that BRP really tweaks/tunes their machines to get every last bit out of them. Having been a snowmobiler for a long time it always seemed like the ski-doos were the ones always in the shop. Same company.

Dealers have a checklist to go through on every machine for prep. As far as a pwc goes, there isn't much to it as unlike a snowmobile or atv they arrive basically complete. With sleds skis aren't usually attached, front ends need to be aligned, windshields, off, etc. I bought a pwc from HK once and they had it out of the crate, fired up and ready to go within an hour or two.

Just saying I think there is more to it than just dealer prep that makes a machine reliable, but having a solid dealer backing it when you need them is important. I would never buy from Rochester Motorsports as I think they are goons. I have never bought from DaSilva, but haven't heard any complaints. I have done business with HK and it has always been good.

I am not saying I wouldn't ever buy another Seadoo though! I do like them. That stereo...Gotta have it.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I find that BRP really tweaks/tunes their machines to get every last bit out of them. Having been a snowmobiler for a long time it always seemed like the ski-doos were the ones always in the shop. Same company.

Dealers have a checklist to go through on every machine for prep. As far as a pwc goes, there isn't much to it as unlike a snowmobile or atv they arrive basically complete. With sleds skis aren't usually attached, front ends need to be aligned, windshields, off, etc. I bought a pwc from HK once and they had it out of the crate, fired up and ready to go within an hour or two.

Just saying I think there is more to it than just dealer prep that makes a machine reliable, but having a solid dealer backing it when you need them is important. I would never buy from Rochester Motorsports as I think they are goons. I have never bought from DaSilva, but haven't heard any complaints. I have done business with HK and it has always been good.

I am not saying I wouldn't ever buy another Seadoo though! I do like them. That stereo...Gotta have it.

The Sea-Doo will also come with a 4-year warranty if I buy at the boat show, which is a little peace of mind.

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[tis]

Think, I think you want the Sea Doo. Just buy it!!!!!!