Where are the statistics...

[coolyourjets]

Originally Posted by jbolty

masks and gloves are just theater except for those who really need them and know how to use them. If there is virus in the air it will be on the outside of your mask and all around and unless someone else takes it off for you it's then on your hands and then you toss the mask on the front seat of the car and touch the key and steering wheel and everything else. Try doing painting or sheetrock with a mask and gloves and then try to get them both off with out getting paint on your fingers or dust everywhere. And that does not even consider using a bandana to supposedly filter microscopic particles.

This is why a mask is only one small part of the solution. One of the others is washing your hands frequently or more importantly, using hand sanitizer after you've been in a situation where you might have been exposed and not touching your face and eyes. It's no different than when you are cooking food that could contain a pathogen such as salmonella. You have to be very careful not to cross-contaminate but it's not too difficult if you take the time to do things in the proper order. People are not wearing masks for the theater of it.

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by coolyourjets

This is why a mask is only one small part of the solution. One of the others is washing your hands frequently or more importantly, using hand sanitizer after you've been in a situation where you might have been exposed and not touching your face and eyes. It's no different than when you are cooking food that could contain a pathogen such as salmonella. You have to be very careful not to cross-contaminate but it's not too difficult if you take the time to do things in the proper order. People are not wearing masks for the theater of it.

That's good in theory but at least a 1/4 of the people I see with masks have them below their nose and are wearing the same gloves to touch everything in sight plus their phone, keys and face.

the vast majority have no idea of basic science and are oblivious to the point of gloves or masks.

all this in addition to handling cash, touching atm or credit card key pads door handles, etc.

whenever I cut up raw meat I first put hot bleach water in the sink ready to wash my hands, knife and cutting board. Show me 5 people who do the same at home or even think of it. It's no coincidence that studies have shown one of the dirtiest things in most homes is the refrigerator door handle.

having said all that, being cautious is fine but most people are not nearly as safe as they think they are and yet we are still not dropping like flies. I think eventually we are going to find out nearly everyone has already been exposed.

[TheProfessor]

Originally Posted by jbolty

I think eventually we are going to find out nearly everyone has already been exposed.

Have flown twice in 2020. Six airports. All over the place. Not recently though. Was just tested for both antibody and COVID-19. Negative on both.

Originally Posted by jbolty

studies have shown one of the dirtiest things in most homes is the refrigerator door handle.

The study results vary. One stated that the kitchen sponge was the dirtiest. Most refuse to spend a single dollar on a new sponge or even wash the sponge properly.
The other item that sometimes comes in first is the cell phone. One study years ago stated that 21% of all cell phones has human feces on it.

Anyone ever wash their cell phone ???

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

Have flown twice in 2020. Six airports. All over the place. Not recently though. Was just tested for both antibody and COVID-19. Negative on both.



The study results vary. One stated that the kitchen sponge was the dirtiest. Most refuse to spend a single dollar on a new sponge or even wash the sponge properly.
The other item that sometimes comes in first is the cell phone. One study years ago stated that 21% of all cell phones has human feces on it.

Anyone ever wash their cell phone ???

yuk. which is the reason I do not allow sponges in my house.

of course reusable grocery bags are vectors for filth as well, because no one ever washes them.

I'm not saying do nothing. what I am saying is the laksidasical way people are using this stuff is little better than nothing but the numbers are still mostly dropping.

I have seen numerous store credit/debit pads with plastic over the keys. What's the point? Everyone is still touching the same plastic. The drive thru clerk at mcdonalds is handling my drink, food bag and everyone's cash with the same gloves on. Spread is un stoppable.

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[nj2nh]

Originally Posted by jbolty

That's good in theory but at least a 1/4 of the people I see with masks have them below their nose and are wearing the same gloves to touch everything in sight plus their phone, keys and face.

the vast majority have no idea of basic science and are oblivious to the point of gloves or masks.

all this in addition to handling cash, touching atm or credit card key pads door handles, etc.

whenever I cut up raw meat I first put hot bleach water in the sink ready to wash my hands, knife and cutting board. Show me 5 people who do the same at home or even think of it. It's no coincidence that studies have shown one of the dirtiest things in most homes is the refrigerator door handle.

having said all that, being cautious is fine but most people are not nearly as safe as they think they are and yet we are still not dropping like flies. I think eventually we are going to find out nearly everyone has already been exposed.

Well, after cutting meat, everything goes in the dishwasher. I have a separate cutting board for vegetables. I disinfect my fridge handles every day - after breakfast and after dinner. Did that before the virus. I think plenty of people know to do this.


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