Moultonborough Town Meeting

phoenix · 07-01-2020, 07:52 PM

Sue if i remember the select board voted 5-0 for the 7 million article

Sue Doe-Nym · 07-01-2020, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix

Sue if i remember the select board voted 5-0 for the 7 million article

I think they were split on the initial vote. However, when the pandemic hit and businesses had to close down, most re-evaluated spending. As an aside, at Monday night’s meeting, several items in the town budget were amended to much lower figures, and these amendments were put up by various members of the Selectboard.

As for ARV’s questions about a community center, most of the seniors who attended are for it...that was art. 5, but it was defeated. Many of us are perfectly fine with a community center at a reasonable cost ($3 million). The younger set won’t accept that.

jbolty · 07-01-2020, 08:53 PM

not everything that's a good idea has to be done at government expense.

loonguy · 07-02-2020, 04:58 AM

I agree with ARV that the Rec Center is a good idea and the minimal incremental tax cost is justified, but it appears that this might never be approved by the voters. Has the Town explored funding the center with charitable contributions, perhaps with naming rights to the center, gym, food kitchen, etc. tied to major contributions? I am not personally into naming rights or the related major contributions, but would be willing to make a charitable contribution otherwise. This could be an opportunity for Sue Doe-Nym to use her real name!

Shipfitter · 07-02-2020, 06:44 AM

The way I see it is one side of the community wants a senior center with room for meals on wheels. This could also be used as a function hall. This side of the community has also stated that the preferred location is the old lions club property. A walking track for winter use and pickle ball courts Is also on their wish list and I don’t believe that has to be at the lions club. The others side of the community wants a recreation complex that has to be walking distance to the school. So why don’t we do both. 3.5 million apiece.

Shipfitter · 07-02-2020, 07:10 AM

The way I see it is one side of the community wants a senior center with room for meals on wheels. This could also be used as a function hall. This side of the community has also stated that the preferred location is the old lions club property. A walking track for winter use and pickle ball courts Is also on their wish list and I don’t believe that has to be at the lions club. The others side of the community wants a recreation complex that has to be walking distance to the school. So why don’t we do both. 3.5 million apiece.

Susie Cougar · 07-02-2020, 09:27 AM

If I remember correctly, hasn’t there been a lot of disagreement over the $6.7 million price tag? Didn’t someone mention that Fryeburg Maine was building a rec center very similar to the one that Moultonborough had proposed but at a much lower cost? Did anyone look into this further? It seems to me there are many issues as to why the town is not able to move forward.

Susie Cougar · 07-02-2020, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by loonguy

I agree with ARV that the Rec Center is a good idea and the minimal incremental tax cost is justified, but it appears that this might never be approved by the voters. Has the Town explored funding the center with charitable contributions, perhaps with naming rights to the center, gym, food kitchen, etc. tied to major contributions? I am not personally into naming rights or the related major contributions, but would be willing to make a charitable contribution otherwise. This could be an opportunity for Sue Doe-Nym to use her real name!

It’s funny to me that I don’t know the real identities of most everyone on the forum. I keep waiting to be surprised to learn that one of you is someone that I have known in the past.

upthesaukee · 07-02-2020, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

It’s funny to me that I don’t know the real identities of most everyone on the forum. I keep waiting to be surprised to learn that one of you is someone that I have known in the past.

Ah the days of you're. Eight years ago, and longer, we had a Forum Fest each year at a particular location, pot luck meals usually, and lasted for most of an afternoon, usually on a Saturday afternoon. It was a chance to meet the face behind the User Name, and in some cases form a friendship that it lasted the Forum Fests.

Some of the years there were raffles, like a penny sale, with the money going to a local charity or non-profit (Loon Society one year).

Unfortunate that as with many good endeavors, the planning and work fell on only a few shoulders, and with no one else willing to step up to help, the gathering fell by the wayside.

Look at the index of forums on this site, on a full site view, and near the bottom of this list is "Forum Fests". Take the time to view, interesting read.

Back to the town meeting.

Dave

Susie Cougar · 07-02-2020, 12:09 PM

Thanks, Dave.

tis · 07-02-2020, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

It’s funny to me that I don’t know the real identities of most everyone on the forum. I keep waiting to be surprised to learn that one of you is someone that I have known in the past.

I was very surprised to discover that up had signed my yearbook.

As far as the Forum Fests, I never made it to one but I followed them. I think they got to be too much work. At first it was a simple drop by and say hi and bring a pot luck or something if you feel like it. Then it got complicated and somebody had to do an awful lot of work to organize them.

tummyman · 07-02-2020, 05:06 PM

While this has been just recently brought up to the BOS, there is a VERY FINE building currently available at 130 Whittier Highway...the old Keepsake Quilting headquarters. Go to Roche Realty Commercial properties and see the pictures. Link is below....

https://rocherealty.com//mls-4796817...-NH-03254.html

All for $1.65M plus some renovation costs. Bet for a small $2.0M we could be in the building by next April if Town Meeting would approve. There will need to be a little more parking added to the approx. 65 spaces currently there, but this building is really ready to go. Even has high bays that could handle sports activities. But then again, nobody here has any creativity. Town could work on a short term lease with option to buy if TM approves. And with some $$$ donations, costs would be less than $2M for a top notch facility. Nobody here can compromise on anything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why????? I am sure you will all hear about the folks that say why it cannot happen, but we need to move forward. Are there no reasonable people left???? Time for folks to buck up, as we have not made any headway on prior ideas.

Sue Doe-Nym · 07-02-2020, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tummyman

While this has been just recently brought up to the BOS, there is a VERY FINE building currently available at 130 Whittier Highway...the old Keepsake Quilting headquarters. Go to Roche Realty Commercial properties and see the pictures. Link is below....

https://rocherealty.com//mls-4796817...-NH-03254.html

All for $1.65M plus some renovation costs. Bet for a small $2.0M we could be in the building by next April if Town Meeting would approve. There will need to be a little more parking added to the approx. 65 spaces currently there, but this building is really ready to go. Even has high bays that could handle sports activities. But then again, nobody here has any creativity. Town could work on a short term lease with option to buy if TM approves. And with some $$$ donations, costs would be less than $2M for a top notch facility. Nobody here can compromise on anything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why????? I am sure you will all hear about the folks that say why it cannot happen, but we need to move forward. Are there no reasonable people left???? Time for folks to buck up, as we have not made any headway on prior ideas.

That certainly merits investigation. Trouble is that the school parents want a fancy schmancy building adjacent to the academy. They will settle for that or nothing, and so far that’s what they have achieved: NOTHING! Year after year: same old, same old. Very tiresome.

Susie Cougar · 07-02-2020, 06:17 PM

It’s a good location for sure. I think most people that live in Moultonborough go to Center Harbor and Meredith. It would be very convenient for the seniors but they would not be happy because it is on busy route 25. It’s too bad it could not be accessed from Lake Shore Drive.
Then, of course, that’s only half the issue. If they still need some kind of a rec center for the students, it needs to be at the school.

07-01-2020, 07:52 PM	#1
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,592 Thanks: 65 Thanked 288 Times in 204 Posts	Sue if i remember the select board voted 5-0 for the 7 million article __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

07-02-2020, 06:44 AM	#5
Shipfitter Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 7 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I think we all agree The way I see it is one side of the community wants a senior center with room for meals on wheels. This could also be used as a function hall. This side of the community has also stated that the preferred location is the old lions club property. A walking track for winter use and pickle ball courts Is also on their wish list and I don’t believe that has to be at the lions club. The others side of the community wants a recreation complex that has to be walking distance to the school. So why don’t we do both. 3.5 million apiece.

07-02-2020, 07:10 AM	#6
Shipfitter Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 7 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I think we all agree The way I see it is one side of the community wants a senior center with room for meals on wheels. This could also be used as a function hall. This side of the community has also stated that the preferred location is the old lions club property. A walking track for winter use and pickle ball courts Is also on their wish list and I don’t believe that has to be at the lions club. The others side of the community wants a recreation complex that has to be walking distance to the school. So why don’t we do both. 3.5 million apiece.

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07-01-2020, 08:53 PM	#3
jbolty Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 689 Thanks: 327 Thanked 267 Times in 160 Posts	not everything that's a good idea has to be done at government expense.

07-02-2020, 04:58 AM	#4
loonguy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Moultonborough near the Loon Center Posts: 198 Thanks: 60 Thanked 69 Times in 47 Posts	I agree with ARV that the Rec Center is a good idea and the minimal incremental tax cost is justified, but it appears that this might never be approved by the voters. Has the Town explored funding the center with charitable contributions, perhaps with naming rights to the center, gym, food kitchen, etc. tied to major contributions? I am not personally into naming rights or the related major contributions, but would be willing to make a charitable contribution otherwise. This could be an opportunity for Sue Doe-Nym to use her real name!

07-02-2020, 09:27 AM	#7
Susie Cougar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 626 Thanks: 296 Thanked 225 Times in 160 Posts	If I remember correctly, hasn’t there been a lot of disagreement over the $6.7 million price tag? Didn’t someone mention that Fryeburg Maine was building a rec center very similar to the one that Moultonborough had proposed but at a much lower cost? Did anyone look into this further? It seems to me there are many issues as to why the town is not able to move forward.

07-02-2020, 12:09 PM	#10
Susie Cougar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 626 Thanks: 296 Thanked 225 Times in 160 Posts	Thanks, Dave.

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07-02-2020, 05:06 PM	#12
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 888 Thanks: 278 Thanked 764 Times in 271 Posts	While this has been just recently brought up to the BOS, there is a VERY FINE building currently available at 130 Whittier Highway...the old Keepsake Quilting headquarters. Go to Roche Realty Commercial properties and see the pictures. Link is below.... https://rocherealty.com//mls-4796817...-NH-03254.html All for $1.65M plus some renovation costs. Bet for a small $2.0M we could be in the building by next April if Town Meeting would approve. There will need to be a little more parking added to the approx. 65 spaces currently there, but this building is really ready to go. Even has high bays that could handle sports activities. But then again, nobody here has any creativity. Town could work on a short term lease with option to buy if TM approves. And with some $$$ donations, costs would be less than $2M for a top notch facility. Nobody here can compromise on anything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why????? I am sure you will all hear about the folks that say why it cannot happen, but we need to move forward. Are there no reasonable people left???? Time for folks to buck up, as we have not made any headway on prior ideas.

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07-02-2020, 06:17 PM	#14
Susie Cougar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 626 Thanks: 296 Thanked 225 Times in 160 Posts	It’s a good location for sure. I think most people that live in Moultonborough go to Center Harbor and Meredith. It would be very convenient for the seniors but they would not be happy because it is on busy route 25. It’s too bad it could not be accessed from Lake Shore Drive. Then, of course, that’s only half the issue. If they still need some kind of a rec center for the students, it needs to be at the school.