Electric Jet Ski ! Anyone here have one?

[thinkxingu]

I don't have one, but I gave them a little look when I was researching my new ski. This is what I found: https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/2...electric-specs.

I couldn't get past the 2-hour max battery to research capacity, controls, storage, etc.

About the same time, I read about Sea-Doo revealing a prototype. That's here: https://plugboats.com/seadoo-showcas...ectric-jetski/.

My 4-stroke Sea-Doo is no louder than any regular boat motor, and MUCH quieter than the go-fast boats, so that doesn't bother me, but if I could avoid fuel and maintenance and get a full day's ride, I'd consider electric. Until then, it's petrol for me.

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[FlyingScot]

I have an electric car and an electric outboard on my sailboat. One thing I did not fully appreciate before buying is the peacefulness of operating without internal combustion. With all due respect to Think's "quiet" jet ski, an electric will have ZERO noise, ZERO engine vibration. I think you'll be shocked by how much you like it if you try the jet ski.

[mswlogo]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I have an electric car and an electric outboard on my sailboat. One thing I did not fully appreciate before buying is the peacefulness of operating without internal combustion. With all due respect to Think's "quiet" jet ski, an electric will have ZERO noise, ZERO engine vibration. I think you'll be shocked by how much you like it if you try the jet ski.

I always loved slalom water skiing, You feel like you are flying when you slalom on glass water. Such an amazing feeling. I think because that past history I always found Jet Skies were boring and pointless. More useful for a quick life guard rescue than anything. I think if you never slalomed on glass you would never understand.

But some day I would love to get an electric surfboard or electric hydrofoil. Lot cheaper than an electric jet ski and looks like a lot more fun. Looks like you could get the same feeling as slalom skiing. And not have to depend on anyone to go do it when the water is right. And quiet as not to disturb anyone. Probably very little wake too. The hydro’s look a bit dangerous though, in that the foil can hit you. We had an air chair for years and loved it, but you were strapped to it so it could not hit you. But still had some spectacular wipe outs

Check out these videos.

https://youtu.be/gLiqeiOB3ks

https://youtu.be/HLKJV_MtoSE

We have 2 EV’s a Model X and a Chevy Volt, two EV Bikes both Raleigh Detour (love them). And we have solar panels to power everything. Our total energy cost is negative $2000/yr (yes, we make money due to incentive programs, also X includes free Super Charging).

[ApS]

Originally Posted by mswlogo

I always loved slalom water skiing, You feel like you are flying when you slalom on glass water. Such an amazing feeling. I think because that past history I always found Jet Skies were boring and pointless. More useful for a quick life guard rescue than anything. I think if you never slalomed on glass you would never understand.

But some day I would love to get an electric surfboard or electric hydrofoil. Lot cheaper than an electric jet ski and looks like a lot more fun. Looks like you could get the same feeling as slalom skiing. And not have to depend on anyone to go do it when the water is right. And quiet as not to disturb anyone. Probably very little wake too. The hydro’s look a bit dangerous though, in that the foil can hit you. We had an air chair for years and loved it, but you were strapped to it so it could not hit you. But still had some spectacular wipe outs

Check out these videos.

https://youtu.be/gLiqeiOB3ks
https://youtu.be/HLKJV_MtoSE
We have 2 EV’s a Model X and a Chevy Volt, two EV Bikes both Raleigh Detour (love them). And we have solar panels to power everything. Our total energy cost is negative $2000/yr (yes, we make money due to incentive programs, also X includes free Super Charging).

Under $12,000.

There's an introductory sale on electric surfboard-foils: $3500. (Or you can build them using new parts).

Winter Harbor has three of 'em that come out when the oversized boats have left for the day.

The operators appear to be very accomplished at control, which is something the reviewers suggest takes over an hour to learn. (About the amount of time needed for a recharge).

https://www.realwatersports.com/prod...n=kiteboarding

[LIforrelaxin]

So electric Jet skis, electric boats... etc. etc.
Here is the thing They have to be charged. Do we really want charging stations down by the water?

Come one folks there are somethings that from a safety standpoint don't make sense....

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

So electric Jet skis, electric boats... etc. etc.
Here is the thing They have to be charged. Do we really want charging stations down by the water?

Come one folks there are somethings that from a safety standpoint don't make sense....

I don't know the technical specifics, but electric car chargers are "waterproof". They live outside, you can use one in a downpour, etc. When electric jet skis and boats are available broadly, we will have chargers that are safer than the normal dockside receptacles we have today.

[dippasan]

IMHO the conversion to electric/battery operated water craft and boats is inevitable and has begun. I think it will be the next big advance in boating technology.
Technology improvements in batteries and electric motors has exploded and makes it feasible though expensive for now. This said, I love internal combustion everything! Boats, snowmobiles, cars, trucks, tractors, dirt bikes, street bikes etc for all the reasons mentioned above.

A few things to consider:
-Electric motors generate most of their torque at start up. (perfect for water skiing and for those that like gut wrenching acceleration)
-No gas to pollute the water
-No oil (both 2 stroke and/or engine crankcase oil)
-Possibly no drive oil
-No power steering fluid
-No noise
-No coolant
-No exhaust
-Minimal maintenance

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by dippasan

IMHO the conversion to electric/battery operated water craft and boats is inevitable and has begun. I think it will be the next big advance in boating technology.
Technology improvements in batteries and electric motors has exploded and makes it feasible though expensive for now. This said, I love internal combustion everything! Boats, snowmobiles, cars, trucks, tractors, dirt bikes, street bikes etc for all the reasons mentioned above.

A few things to consider:
-Electric motors generate most of their torque at start up. (perfect for water skiing and for those that like gut wrenching acceleration)
-No gas to pollute the water
-No oil (both 2 stroke and/or engine crankcase oil)
-Possibly no drive oil
-No power steering fluid
-No noise
-No coolant
-No exhaust
-Minimal maintenance

Just because the discussion is inevitable, doesn't mean that it is the correct thing to do. There are some myths in things you point out....

- Power stearing fluid, even electric cars have power steering it is just run off an electic pump... electric boat motors would still have to have this.... No coolant in a boat, there will likely still be need to cool the electric engine...
... Drive oil will still be needed if there is any type of gearing....

Other points I agree with you on....

I am all for electric or hybrid cars... they make sense... Electric boats jet ski etc. just don't The power that Marina, already have on the water is scary enough... We need high powered charging stations at every personal dock... I am sorry I just see how that can be safe.....

[dippasan]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Just because the discussion is inevitable, doesn't mean that it is the correct thing to do. There are some myths in things you point out....

- Power stearing fluid, even electric cars have power steering it is just run off an electic pump... electric boat motors would still have to have this.... No coolant in a boat, there will likely still be need to cool the electric engine...
... Drive oil will still be needed if there is any type of gearing....

Other points I agree with you on....

I am all for electric or hybrid cars... they make sense... Electric boats jet ski etc. just don't The power that Marina, already have on the water is scary enough... We need high powered charging stations at every personal dock... I am sorry I just see how that can be safe.....

- Power stearing fluid, even electric cars have power steering it is just run off an electic pump... electric boat motors would still have to have this.... No coolant in a boat, there will likely still be need to cool the electric engine...
... Drive oil will still be needed if there is any type of gearing....

Electronic power steering uses no fluids so there are no hoses, no pump, no leaks and no maintenance. Also, power comes from the battery and charging system rather than a belt-driven pump, so electric steering requires less horsepower from the engine

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by dippasan

- Power stearing fluid, even electric cars have power steering it is just run off an electic pump... electric boat motors would still have to have this.... No coolant in a boat, there will likely still be need to cool the electric engine...
... Drive oil will still be needed if there is any type of gearing....

Electronic power steering uses no fluids so there are no hoses, no pump, no leaks and no maintenance. Also, power comes from the battery and charging system rather than a belt-driven pump, so electric steering requires less horsepower from the engine

This is definitely true for electric cars, and it shows in the maintenance. I've had my Tesla for a bit more than 3 years. I called them on my first anniversary about a PM visit--they said, "Well, if you insist...". Of course, they did virtually nothing. Replaced the tires at 35 or 40K. Now with 50K miles, I think I should bring it in so they can check brakes, but it's kind of humorous to look at their list of PM suggestions.

Overall, I've skipped over 100 times pumping gas, 5 or 10 oil changes, and several other pain in the butt PM visits. It's like maintaining a bicycle.

Concur on the coolant too--there is none. EVs do not even need a grill

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

This is definitely true for electric cars, and it shows in the maintenance. I've had my Tesla for a bit more than 3 years. I called them on my first anniversary about a PM visit--they said, "Well, if you insist...". Of course, they did virtually nothing. Replaced the tires at 35 or 40K. Now with 50K miles, I think I should bring it in so they can check brakes, but it's kind of humorous to look at their list of PM suggestions.

Overall, I've skipped over 100 times pumping gas, 5 or 10 oil changes, and several other pain in the butt PM visits. It's like maintaining a bicycle.

Concur on the coolant too--there is none. EVs do not even need a grill

Just curious and I truly dont know the answer, but if you keep it to the point where the batteries/battery pack needs to be replaced, did they tell you what the cost is?

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Just curious and I truly dont know the answer, but if you keep it to the point where the batteries/battery pack needs to be replaced, did they tell you what the cost is?

As I understand it, the batteries should last hundreds of thousands of miles, and they cost $3-7K or so to replace. On a related note, the cost of electricity is about 1/3 the cost of gas on a per mile basis. So if we're saving something like $0.10/mile, that's $20,000 just in gas by the time we hit 200K miles.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

As I understand it, the batteries should last hundreds of thousands of miles, and they cost $3-7K or so to replace. On a related note, the cost of electricity is about 1/3 the cost of gas on a per mile basis. So if we're saving something like $0.10/mile, that's $20,000 just in gas by the time we hit 200K miles.

Did they indicate if there was also a time frame for battery replacement, 5 years, 10, 20? Also did you have to do any special wiring at home to charge it or does it just plug into some existing outlet.

I will be needing another car for #2 son maybe next year, and neither of my kids share my love of mechanical things and motors, so if the total cost and service life is right I will consider all options for them.

For me, I'll keep my RAM 2500 and keep my eyes open for maybe an early 70's Chrysler Imperial or New Yorker, something made of metal, that I can fix myself, that has style. AND has that beautiful sound of a fire breathing mega cubic inch 4-Bbl V-8 beast ;-)

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Did they indicate if there was also a time frame for battery replacement, 5 years, 10, 20? Also did you have to do any special wiring at home to charge it or does it just plug into some existing outlet.

I will be needing another car for #2 son maybe next year, and neither of my kids share my love of mechanical things and motors, so if the total cost and service life is right I will consider all options for them.

For me, I'll keep my RAM 2500 and keep my eyes open for maybe an early 70's Chrysler Imperial or New Yorker, something made of metal, that I can fix myself, that has style. AND has that beautiful sound of a fire breathing mega cubic inch 4-Bbl V-8 beast ;-)

I think I have an 8 year guarantee.

You'll want to install a charger on a 220 line. I think that's about $2K including labor.

In addition to Tesla, which starts in the 40s so might be pricey for your son, there's also the Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf, and VW is launching next year (at least in Europe, not sure about US).

Here's a great website to learn more https://electrek.co/

I'm thinking a charger for your son, and a Charger for you!

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I think I have an 8 year guarantee.

You'll want to install a charger on a 220 line. I think that's about $2K including labor.

In addition to Tesla, which starts in the 40s so might be pricey for your son, there's also the Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf, and VW is launching next year (at least in Europe, not sure about US).

Here's a great website to learn more https://electrek.co/

I'm thinking a charger for your son, and a Charger for you!

Well 8 years is pretty good so long as thats not a pro-rate warranty like regular batteries.

As for a Charger for me, I currently have a video game-like 2011 Challenger, but if I were looking for an original,,, maybe a 1970 GTX. They looked sooooo cool.

Dont understand why the car makers have such boring cookie cutter designs these days. They are so uninteresting to me. I mean really, would it kill them to make an interesting wheel opening in the fender or quarter panel, anything better than the perfect circle cutout,,,

Maybe I expect too much, but in 2020 you would think the average car would be at least as attractive as they were in 1970's.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Maybe I expect too much, but in 2020 you would think the average car would be at least as attractive as they were in 1970's.

Yes! It is shocking how car design is so weak today. I saw a 70s era Stingray a week ago in Moultonborough, and I was stunned--beautiful proportions, timeless beauty.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I saw a 70s era Stingray a week ago in Moultonborough, and I was stunned--beautiful proportions, timeless beauty.

timeless beauty - cant agree more!

The new Corvette looks like a true Supercar, but it has lost something, and that something is timeless beauty.

And its the same across all the manufacturers, way too many bland and uninteresting designs. The are setting us up for the day when sefl-driving cars are part of the infrastructure and no one has a personal automobile.

Thats when RUSH's Red Barchetta transitions from song to real life,,, Hopefully after my time here,,,

[dippasan]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

timeless beauty - cant agree more!

The new Corvette looks like a true Supercar, but it has lost something, and that something is timeless beauty.

And its the same across all the manufacturers, way too many bland and uninteresting designs. The are setting us up for the day when sefl-driving cars are part of the infrastructure and no one has a personal automobile.

Thats when RUSH's Red Barchetta transitions from song to real life,,, Hopefully after my time here,,,

"Down in his barn, my uncle preserved for me an old machine, for 50 odd years. To keep it as new has been his dearest dream". Outstanding car song written by Rush's now deceased drummer Neil Peart.

I've owned several old Mustangs. One was a red 66 Fastback that I restored myself and took to car shows and cruise nights. One day at a car show a little boy (maybe 4-5 years old) holding his Dad's hand walks up to my car and says "Dad....look....a Mustang". Everyone, young, old, knows a Mustang, a Corvette, a 442, a Nova etc. I doubt, 25 years from now a 5 year old will look at a Honda Accord (nice car don't get me wrong) and say "Look Dad...a Honda Accord". I'm a car guy and I can hardly tell any of the cars apart today. They just don't stir the senses much anymore

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by dippasan

"Down in his barn, my uncle preserved for me an old machine, for 50 odd years. To keep it as new has been his dearest dream". Outstanding car song written by Rush's now deceased drummer Neil Peart.

I've owned several old Mustangs. One was a red 66 Fastback that I restored myself and took to car shows and cruise nights. One day at a car show a little boy (maybe 4-5 years old) holding his Dad's hand walks up to my car and says "Dad....look....a Mustang". Everyone, young, old, knows a Mustang, a Corvette, a 442, a Nova etc. I doubt, 25 years from now a 5 year old will look at a Honda Accord (nice car don't get me wrong) and say "Look Dad...a Honda Accord". I'm a car guy and I can hardly tell any of the cars apart today. They just don't stir the senses much anymore

100% on the same page!

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by dippasan

"Down in his barn, my uncle preserved for me an old machine, for 50 odd years. To keep it as new has been his dearest dream". Outstanding car song written by Rush's now deceased drummer Neil Peart.

I've owned several old Mustangs. One was a red 66 Fastback that I restored myself and took to car shows and cruise nights. One day at a car show a little boy (maybe 4-5 years old) holding his Dad's hand walks up to my car and says "Dad....look....a Mustang". Everyone, young, old, knows a Mustang, a Corvette, a 442, a Nova etc. I doubt, 25 years from now a 5 year old will look at a Honda Accord (nice car don't get me wrong) and say "Look Dad...a Honda Accord". I'm a car guy and I can hardly tell any of the cars apart today. They just don't stir the senses much anymore

Maybe your senses aren't what they use to be.

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[Cobalt]

Maybe I expect too much, but in 2020 you would think the average car would be at least as attractive as they were in 1970's.

I bought a 1966 Corvette convertible in 1970 at the age of 21. Side exhausts, 4 speed, hot, rough ride, no ac, and the only power option was the antenna.

The closest ride to a Harley on four wheels. Not for everyone, but neither is a Harley. I drove it last week at 71. The only difference, tougher for me to get in and out. But, that's on me.

Memories: Priceless.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

I bought a 1966 Corvette convertible in 1970 at the age of 21. Side exhausts, 4 speed, hot, rough ride, no ac, and the only power option was the antenna.

I drove it last week at 71.

And I'll bet you were grinning ear to ear!

Enjoy every moment, it really doesnt get any better than that.

ATB

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

I bought a 1966 Corvette convertible in 1970 at the age of 21. Side exhausts, 4 speed, hot, rough ride, no ac, and the only power option was the antenna.

The closest ride to a Harley on four wheels. Not for everyone, but neither is a Harley. I drove it last week at 71. The only difference, tougher for me to get in and out. But, that's on me.

Memories: Priceless.

You wouldn't happen to be in Moultonboro just before the Long Island bridge?

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[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by Biggd

You wouldn't happen to be in Moultonboro just before the Long Island bridge?

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That's the one.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

That's the one.

I sent you a PM. Tom H and I came by your house last year. I knew there couldn't be too many guys up here with that same story, LOL. Dave S

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