Staffing Issues for Summer of 2021

[phoenix]

maybe you could provide the links to these numerous studies so that we all can be enlightened

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by phoenix

maybe you could provide the links to these numerous studies so that we all can be enlightened

I mean, other than the ones I already posted above?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/rese...g-to-work.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ma...it-11613075086

https://www.frbsf.org/economic-resea...scourage-work/

https://econofact.org/have-enhanced-...scouraged-work

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-600-...rk-11596015000

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[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

I mean, other than the ones I already posted above?

Google is your friend: https://www.google.com/search?q=corr...obile&ie=UTF-8

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What’s that I keep hearing about??? Oh yeah, “Confirmation Bias”! It’s clear that “Couch Careers” are alive and well. No BS studies will convince me otherwise.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

What’s that I keep hearing about??? Oh yeah, “Confirmation Bias”! It’s clear that “Couch Careers” are alive and well. No BS studies will convince me otherwise.

Coming from the guy who posted a clearly debunked article that literally flew in the face of EVERY scientific publication at the time and then was redacted everywhere?

A "study" literally picked up by an education program to teach how to spot false information?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!!!

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[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Coming from the guy who posted a clearly debunked article that literally flew in the face of EVERY scientific publication at the time and then was redacted everywhere?

A "study" literally picked up by an education program to teach how to spot false information?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!!!

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I see now….Whatever I reference constitutes “Confirmation Bias”, but whatever you post (including information from that left-wing cesspool called NPR) is not “Confirmation Bias”.

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I see now….Whatever I reference constitutes “Confirmation Bias”, but whatever you post (including information from that left-wing cesspool called NPR) is not “Confirmation Bias”.

NPR is rated with a left-center bias which provides highly factual information...hardly a cesspool in comparison to the source you provided.


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

NPR is rated with a left-center bias which provides highly factual information...hardly a cesspool in comparison to the source you provided.


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Agreed and, of course, there were more sources there than just NPR.

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[Sue Doe-Nym]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Agreed and, of course, there were more sources there than just NPR.

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Think.....today must be a day off for you because of the number of your posts on this thread. If not, what are your students up to?

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym

Think.....today must be a day off for you because of the number of your posts on this thread. If not, what are your students up to?

Ok, so today is "senior skip day," and I've had one student all day (I teach all seniors, and they finish next week).

Interestingly, I used this thread when talking to that one student. His claim—accurately, I think—is that the current political polarization in America drives us to seek sides with our tribes rather than shared experiences and nuance.

He added that he'd recently come across an economics study that showed the correlation between unemployment wage percentages and the speed at which people return to jobs as a relationship between the job they are returning to, both in terms of pay AND emotional fulfillment. Specifically, that people who make great wages and enjoy their jobs will return EVEN IF they can "make more" with supplemental unemployment.

We finished the discussion with an appreciation of nuance and lamentation of its loss.

Good times!

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[Sue Doe-Nym]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Ok, so today is "senior skip day," and I've had one student all day (I teach all seniors, and they finish next week).

Interestingly, I used this thread when talking to that one student. His claim—accurately, I think—is that the current political polarization in America drives us to seek sides with our tribes rather than shared experiences and nuance.

He added that he'd recently come across an economics study that showed the correlation between unemployment wage percentages and the speed at which people return to jobs as a relationship between the job they are returning to, both in terms of pay AND emotional fulfillment. Specifically, that people who make great wages and enjoy their jobs will return EVEN IF they can "make more" with supplemental unemployment.

We finished the discussion with an appreciation of nuance and lamentation of its loss.

Good times!

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That’s fine, as far as it goes. It makes sense that people who are well paid and experience emotional fulfillment will return to their jobs. It is also possible that those who do not experience the same positive feelings toward their jobs might, but should not, opt to collect unemployment benefits for as long as they can. Now here is when the argument loses steam, at least for me: it should not be the taxpayers’ responsibility to supplement the incomes of people who CAN work but who choose not to because they can get paid for sitting on their derrières. Nobody can convince me that doing so is proper.

[phoenix]

agree and not when there are 8.1M jobs available. most of those studies that were referenced were when most businesses were shut down in 2020 and there were far fewer jobs available. at least the hospitality business.

[mofn]

A couple of thoughts not being addressed on the subject:
1) Towns in the lakes region have small year round population. Today the
family unit is 0 - 1.27654897 kids. Not when I grew up, I knew of X families w/ 7-8 kids. Local shortage right there.

2) Summer help from "away" teenagers or college students. If both can not use parents/grandparents place cost of housing is now a nonstarter from the get go.

3) The no.2's above, some posters have stated the difference in pay N.H. to Mass...ok. But by staying at home and working... your w/ friends, no food bill, mom does laundry, and someone has put a plate of leftovers in the reefer for you. What is that worth per week to this age group?
Plus do whole families still spend all summer now at the lake as in the past?
If you say no, then work pool is smaller than the past.

4) As for owners looking for help, the 1st principle of capitalism, you have to spend money to make money. You go cheap on proven qualified help you do so at your own risk!

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Ok, so today is "senior skip day," and I've had one student all day (I teach all seniors, and they finish next week).

Interestingly, I used this thread when talking to that one student
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Senior Skip Day?
My god these kids have been out of school for MONTHS! Why a "Skip day"?

[CatLady]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Senior Skip Day?
My god these kids have been out of school for MONTHS! Why a "Skip day"?

Probably tradition, which these kids have had very little of for the last two years; A little rebellion as they go out into the world.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Senior Skip Day?
My god these kids have been out of school for MONTHS! Why a "Skip day"?

My students may not have been in the building full-time all year, but they certainly worked hard. In fact, in easily the most challenging year of my 16 years (so far), we only missed one unit of my curriculum. I was very pleased with this year's classes, so, yes, a skip day to hang out with schoolmates after most were vaccinated was perfect.

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[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

What’s that I keep hearing about??? Oh yeah, “Confirmation Bias”! It’s clear that “Couch Careers” are alive and well. No BS studies will convince me otherwise.

It's nihilistic (and also unfair) to respond to half a dozen citations with nothing other than "it's clear...no studies will convince me...".

You should post some real studies with real data from real researchers. Otherwise, it's just BS

[ApS]

Past...

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

It's nihilistic (and also unfair) to respond to half a dozen citations with nothing other than "it's clear...no studies will convince me...".

You should post some real studies with real data from real researchers. Otherwise, it's just BS

"Studies" from Universities slavish to grants? From Facebook, Wikipedia, Twitter, and Google, which practice "Cancel-Culture"? "Shadow-Banning"?

Originally Posted by gillygirl

NPR is rated with a left-center bias which provides highly factual information...hardly a cesspool in comparison to the source you provided.

"Rated left-center bias=highly factual information".

It is to laugh!

"Left-center" bias is strong. Not unlike "Full-Leftist" bias, NPR won't advise you of Tony Bobulinski and a certain laptop. 'Shame that I am forced to help pay for NPR's "facts" and "highly factual information".
https://art19.com/shows/the-dershow/...a-9a3c592868b5

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by ApS

Past...

"Studies" from Universities slavish to grants? From Facebook, Wikipedia, Twitter, and Google, which practice "Cancel-Culture"? "Shadow-Banning"?

"Rated left-center bias=highly factual information".

It is to laugh!

"Left-center" bias is strong. Not unlike "Full-Leftist" bias, NPR won't advise you of Tony Bobulinski and a certain laptop. 'Shame that I am forced to help pay for NPR's "facts" and "highly factual information".

https://art19.com/shows/the-dershow/...a-9a3c592868b5

Your response is Dershowitz and Carlson? Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa! Thanks for the laugh.


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[ApS]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

Your response is Dershowitz and Carlson? Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa! Thanks for the laugh.

It was not my intent to demonstrate "Confirmation-Bias", but thanks for doing so.

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by ApS

It was not my intent to demonstrate "Confirmation-Bias", but thanks for doing so.

Not really. My sources are news organizations, not talking heads who are pandering to their base. Nice try though.


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[ApS]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

Not really. My sources are news organizations, not talking heads who are pandering to their base. Nice try though.

It was not my intent to illuminate the "personalize and polarize" portion of Rule #13, but thanks for doing so.

[Heaven]

Originally Posted by ApS

Past...


"Studies" from Universities slavish to grants? From Facebook, Wikipedia, Twitter, and Google, which practice "Cancel-Culture"? "Shadow-Banning"?


"Rated left-center bias=highly factual information".

It is to laugh!

"Left-center" bias is strong. Not unlike "Full-Leftist" bias, NPR won't advise you of Tony Bobulinski and a certain laptop. 'Shame that I am forced to help pay for NPR's "facts" and "highly factual information".
https://art19.com/shows/the-dershow/...a-9a3c592868b5

Well I listened to the link you provided to the Dershow, because I generally think he is an intelligent guy, but I had to quit when he referred to the Tucker Carlton guest as "the witness". Now, maybe it was a slip of the tongue, or maybe it was a mindset. But he just blew up his credibility on this issue.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

It's nihilistic (and also unfair) to respond to half a dozen citations with nothing other than "it's clear...no studies will convince me...".

You should post some real studies with real data from real researchers. Otherwise, it's just BS

And I also believe the earth is flat….