For those who still have 2-strokes

[fatlazyless]

Go to www.tohatsu.com and look around their website.

It looks like Tohatsu makes four-stroke outboards for the United States and two-stroke outboards for other areas around the world?

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Go to www.tohatsu.com and look around their website.

It looks like Tohatsu makes four-stroke outboards for the United States and two-stroke outboards for other areas around the world?

Yamaha is the same, for those who want simple and not needing a dealers computer to trouble shoot it, they are still offering up to 200 HP with carb and pre-mix overseas. It will throw more smoke and burn more oil and gas than an EFI 4 stroke, but will probably last forever if treated reasonably and wont require a $200 minimum diagnostic charge by the dealer anytime something goes wrong.

[swnoel]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Go to www.tohatsu.com and look around their website.

It looks like Tohatsu makes four-stroke outboards for the United States and two-stroke outboards for other areas around the world?

Interestingly Tohatsu makes all of Mercuries small outboards up to I believe 60 hp and Honda makes all of Tohatsu's 150-250 hp outboards.

[AC2717]

last year i bought a small 14 foot lowe fishing boat, was all excited to have a 4 stroke 25hp on the back (hp to allow the kids to use to learn) boat can hold up to a 30hp and they say 4 stroke weight.
The 25hp 4 stroke Merc is way to heavy for the boat, by about 50-75lbs vs a 25hp 2 stroke. I love the 4 but it is not right for the set up. i have got it to max performance with a 8 pitch prop, but I still have to on most days stand up in front of the helm to get the front down by myself and once it gets there its fine at top end, but with two people on the boat, you would like I was dragging an anchor.

in fact if someone had a 2 stroke Merc 25hp with power trim I would probably do a straight up trade.

I do agree however that it depends on the application 2 stroke v. 4 stroke

[Cal Coon]

I don't understand why it has to be an "either or" thing for some people. Just like 4 strokes, 2 stroke technology has come a long way as well in the last few years. They're quieter, smoke less, and burn much less oil than ever before. I would hate to see 2 strokes discontinued altogether for the sake of 4 strokes. The more choices the better!! It's the same with fuel. Some people want to ban fossil fuels altogether for the sake of wind, electric, and solar power. Why can't we have all three??? It shouldn't be an "either or" thing. The more choices the better IMHO.

[Cal Coon]

Originally Posted by Cal Coon

I don't understand why it has to be an "either or" thing for some people. Just like 4 strokes, 2 stroke technology has come a long way as well in the last few years. They're quieter, smoke less, and burn much less oil than ever before. I would hate to see 2 strokes discontinued altogether for the sake of 4 strokes. The more choices the better!! It's the same with fuel. Some people want to ban fossil fuels altogether for the sake of wind, electric, and solar power. Why can't we have all three??? It shouldn't be an "either or" thing. The more choices the better IMHO.

Meant to say, "why can't we have all four" types of energy, not three. The more choices the better!!

[fatlazyless]

For a 12' sailboat that weighs about 125-lbs, or a 14' sailboat that weighs about 225-lbs, the best two-stroke engine is two wood oars, about 6.5 or 7' length.

Putting a motor on a small sailboat changes everything including its registration and insurance, and with two oars, it keeps you positioned in the center of the boat for best rowing stability. Plus, it gives you something to do while you wait for the wind to pick up, you get to row.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Cal Coon

Meant to say, "why can't we have all four" types of energy, not three. The more choices the better!!

OXE makes a diesel outboard engine.
'Don't know if there are any 2-stroke diesel outboards.

[LikeLakes]

Originally Posted by ApS

OXE makes a diesel outboard engine.
'Don't know if there are any 2-stroke diesel outboards.

Also very cool package and performance, from what I've read. But ..... close to $50,000 for a 200 and $65,000 for a 300 with accessories, you have to want one pretty bad.