Kia Soul mechanical reliabilty

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Who cares? Just buy a car and be done with it. I mean, not to be harsh or nothing (I'm attempting to lighten this up with bad grammar), but there's way too much life energy being put into this process. Like, "looking at a Soul for two years"? It's a SOUL, friend, not a Bugatti.

And, had you bought it two years ago, price wouldn't have been an issue.

It's like FLL wasting his tinnitus-plagued years away with multiple broken snowblowers and cars while thousands of dollars of unused vessels sit rotting in his front yard.

Geesh!

Just sayin'. Please don't be angry. Let's never fight again. Hugs.

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Hugs to you too, sir. How important is color for me personally? 10 out of 10. I don't urgently "need" a KIA Soul. I have a perfectly fine car. I "want" a KIA Soul to simplify my recreational activities (see original post). Therefore it has to be just the right car. If you were longing for a Bugatti and saved up for it for years and the one you found happened to be alien green (for those who don't know, that's an actual Soul color), would you spring for it?

Why looking for a Soul for two years: (1) difficulty of test driving cars during the pandemic, (2) they come in a variety of packages, not all equally suitable for me, (3) COLOR.

I'll push the color question a step further and say that for the last 15 years, colors of cars and clothing have been mainly black, gray, and brown, plus white for cars. What those colors represent psychologically is well known: depression, loss of hope, loss of soul, sterility, low energy. Did Americans ask for these colors? Not at all. Clothing and car manufacturers decided that that was what we were getting. For 15 years we've been surrounded by this drab color landscape, which also represents a disconnect from the natural world. The psychedelic 60s and 70s---the era of bright colors to counteract the Vietnam War and race riots---are over.

KIA is trying to set a new trend with orange, yellow, and alien green cars. By this year they realized their error and brought back more reds and blues. I just have to wait until those colors are more available in used cars.

"Had you bought it two years ago, price wouldn't have been an issue." That observation pales in comparison to had I bought a HOUSE two years ago . . .

Comparing me to FLL is a low blow, but yes, we humans are a strange pile of irrational, conflicting thoughts, feelings, and actions. I bet we all recognize some part of ourselves in FLL.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

Hugs to you too, sir. How important is color for me personally? 10 out of 10. I don't urgently "need" a KIA Soul. I have a perfectly fine car. I "want" a KIA Soul to simplify my recreational activities (see original post). Therefore it has to be just the right car. If you were longing for a Bugatti and saved up for it for years and the one you found happened to be alien green (for those who don't know, that's an actual Soul color), would you spring for it?

Why looking for a Soul for two years: (1) difficulty of test driving cars during the pandemic, (2) they come in a variety of packages, not all equally suitable for me, (3) COLOR.

I'll push the color question a step further and say that for the last 15 years, colors of cars and clothing have been mainly black, gray, and brown, plus white for cars. What those colors represent psychologically is well known: depression, loss of hope, loss of soul, sterility, low energy. Did Americans ask for these colors? Not at all. Clothing and car manufacturers decided that that was what we were getting. For 15 years we've been surrounded by this drab color landscape, which also represents a disconnect from the natural world. The psychedelic 60s and 70s---the era of bright colors to counteract the Vietnam War and race riots---are over.

KIA is trying to set a new trend with orange, yellow, and alien green cars. By this year they realized their error and brought back more reds and blues. I just have to wait until those colors are more available in used cars.

"Had you bought it two years ago, price wouldn't have been an issue." That observation pales in comparison to had I bought a HOUSE two years ago . . .

Comparing me to FLL is a low blow, but yes, we humans are a strange pile of irrational, conflicting thoughts, feelings, and actions. I bet we all recognize some part of ourselves in FLL.

Posts like this always serve to remind me of how simple I am.

Good luck on your search, and hope your home is all good!

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[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Posts like this always serve to remind me of how simple I am.

You should thank me for keeping you out of the Covid forum by giving you something else to think about. What do YOU think is the meaning of our drab colors for the past two decades? I mean the deeper social meaning. Surely it must have some meaning. If you go to Mars and all the Martians are wearing pink, that's got to mean something.

Check out this article on car colors: https://www.germaincars.com/most-popular-car-colors/ Quote: "Grayscale colors (white, black, gray, and silver) represent a total of 77.1% of all vehicles on the road in the United States."

Years ago it used to be known that black and gray were dangerous colors. You never hear about that anymore.

[TheTimeTraveler]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

Hugs to you too, sir. How important is color for me personally? 10 out of 10. I don't urgently "need" a KIA Soul. I have a perfectly fine car. I "want" a KIA Soul to simplify my recreational activities (see original post). Therefore it has to be just the right car. If you were longing for a Bugatti and saved up for it for years and the one you found happened to be alien green (for those who don't know, that's an actual Soul color), would you spring for it?

Why looking for a Soul for two years: (1) difficulty of test driving cars during the pandemic, (2) they come in a variety of packages, not all equally suitable for me, (3) COLOR.

I'll push the color question a step further and say that for the last 15 years, colors of cars and clothing have been mainly black, gray, and brown, plus white for cars. What those colors represent psychologically is well known: depression, loss of hope, loss of soul, sterility, low energy. Did Americans ask for these colors? Not at all. Clothing and car manufacturers decided that that was what we were getting. For 15 years we've been surrounded by this drab color landscape, which also represents a disconnect from the natural world. The psychedelic 60s and 70s---the era of bright colors to counteract the Vietnam War and race riots---are over.

KIA is trying to set a new trend with orange, yellow, and alien green cars. By this year they realized their error and brought back more reds and blues. I just have to wait until those colors are more available in used cars.

"Had you bought it two years ago, price wouldn't have been an issue." That observation pales in comparison to had I bought a HOUSE two years ago . . .

Comparing me to FLL is a low blow, but yes, we humans are a strange pile of irrational, conflicting thoughts, feelings, and actions. I bet we all recognize some part of ourselves in FLL.

Speaking of car colors; Yellow seems to have disappeared from new car lots about 30 years ago.

Never seem able to find any new Yellow cars anymore. Last time I had one was back in 1984.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler

Speaking of car colors; Yellow seems to have disappeared from new car lots about 30 years ago. Never seem able to find any new Yellow cars anymore. Last time I had one was back in 1984,.

Well here you go: https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...c[]=Yellow

[fatlazyless]

https://justdownsize.com/can-a-kia-s...small-trailer/ ...... shows 8900-lbs as the towing capacity for a 2021 Kia Soul, while it, the car, weighs 2844-lbs.

H-o-l-y ...... s-m-o-k-e-s ..... a towing capacity of 8900-lbs for a 2021 Kia Soul is what it says ...... is really something that a little Kia Soul can have a towing capacity of 8900-lbs.

W-o-w-i-e ...... z-o-w-i-e ....... have you looked at the report ....... 8900-lbs ...... who knew the little Kia Soul is basically similar to the John Deere tractor when it comes to towing with its weight to tow ration of 'one to three' ..... what with a 2844-lb car towing an 8900-lb trailer .....and 'nothing runs like a Deere'!

Lord have Mercy for anyone driving a Kia Soul down a hill while towing an 8900-lb trailer! .....

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

H-o-l-y ...... s-m-o-k-e-s

What exactly ARE you smoking? I keep wondering about that.

[John Mercier]

Black vehicles tend to get hot in warm weather and show dirt/dings easily.

White vehicles hide the dings, but still show dirt pretty well.

Gray scale vehicles and sometimes beige/champagne are used like interior designers use gray on the walls of a room. They provide the neutral that a black and white cannot.

[8gv]

The color or one's vehicle matters...

Yellow was the color of my 1980 Ford Pinto. That allowed me to call it my "jello car" in my best Cheech and Chong accent.

Orange was the color of my Subaru Crosstrek. In the first week of ownership wifey and I were accosted by a loud unhinged nut job who was checking his mailbox in a residential neighborhood. He went off on us yelling about why would anyone make an orange car and why would anyone buy an orange car. We thought he was joking but as his rage escalated we accelerated the hell out of there!

Silver is my favorite as it allows months of carwash avoidance.

So yeah, color matters.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by 8gv

The color or one's vehicle matters...

Yellow was the color of my 1980 Ford Pinto. That allowed me to call it my "jello car" in my best Cheech and Chong accent.

Orange was the color of my Subaru Crosstrek. In the first week of ownership wifey and I were accosted by a loud unhinged nut job who was checking his mailbox in a residential neighborhood. He went off on us yelling about why would anyone make an orange car and why would anyone buy an orange car. We thought he was joking but as his rage escalated we accelerated the hell out of there!

Silver is my favorite as it allows months of carwash avoidance.

So yeah, color matters.

Color matters, sure, but—at least for me—not enough to psychoanalyze the shift in offerings throughout the decades.

I've had most every color, but white is the most logical to me—even when reasonably dirty, it almost always looks good and with a nice wash it shines; it stays cool in sun; and it's the easiest to cover scratches.

Black is the worst, but it looks awesome clean. Actual colors are for specific style cars. For example, the new Corvette belongs in blue while the Camaro always looked best in yellow and the Mustang in red...

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[fatlazyless]

In the linked article in my above post it says that prior to 2017, the Kia Soul had a towing capacity of 1000-lbs, and now the 2021-models have a towing capacity of 8900-lbs. There is NO difference in the size/weight between the pre-2017 and the 2021-model so what is the difference to allow the towing capacity to go from 1000-lbs to 8900-lbs?

This increase going from 1000-lbs to 8900-lbs is so extreme that it seems impossible for the Kia Soul to be doing it?

To do this the 2021-Soul would need a four wheel rear axle and some very good brakes all around including on the trailer.

............

That bright green color, alien green paint, is easily the #1 most happening color, plus it sometimes comes with a manual stick-shift ...... as seen in craigslist-nh.

Dec 9, 2021: NY Times-Business; "Tips for Buying a Used Car" ..... 21 paragraphs with 12 different links in article .... and talks about Carfax, Carvana, Vroom, and CarMax