Trespassers on Bear today

dickiej · 10-25-2022, 03:40 PM

People forget that this country was founded as much on property rights as it was on freedom. If you own property ITS YOUR PROPERTY! Nobody has the “right” to go onto your property uninvited….that should be common sense. If it’s a large amount of land, you should post it. But for someone to come onto your property with a home on it and walk onto your deck and actually piss on your land is the height of presumptuousness. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just wrong.

John Mercier · 10-25-2022, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dickiej

People forget that this country was founded as much on property rights as it was on freedom. If you own property ITS YOUR PROPERTY! Nobody has the “right” to go onto your property uninvited….that should be common sense. If it’s a large amount of land, you should post it. But for someone to come onto your property with a home on it and walk onto your deck and actually piss on your land is the height of presumptuousness. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just wrong.

Actually quite the opposite.
From the time of the Mayflower Compact right-of-passage was imposed.

dickiej · 10-25-2022, 04:45 PM

Ok…I admit, I’m confused…can you elaborate?

radioman · 10-25-2022, 05:17 PM

cODEMAN, iN MY ESTIMATION YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL VIOLATED!!
tHESE PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ABOVE CURRENT SOCIAL MORES AND NEED A WAKEUP CALL.

Patiently Watching · 10-25-2022, 09:31 PM

Is your property posted?
Are you familiar with Common Law in NH?
Here is some important property owner info;

https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/pub...-explained.pdf

Woodsy · 10-25-2022, 10:05 PM

I certainly hope the public embarrassment here on the forum and hopefully on social media caused these people to ponder their choices.

The actual trespass is one thing... the urination and flaunting of it is a completely different dynamic.

Woodsy

dickiej · 10-25-2022, 10:28 PM

Wow…I was woefully uninformed…thanks for the clarification.

codeman671 · 10-26-2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

I certainly hope the public embarrassment here on the forum and hopefully on social media caused these people to ponder their choices.

The actual trespass is one thing... the urination and flaunting of it is a completely different dynamic.

Woodsy

They came forward, were extremely embarrassed and apologetic. It went out on the major Winnipesaukee facebook groups and reached tens of thousands of people. Multiple people recognized them from what I am told.

FlyingScot · 10-26-2022, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

They came forward, were extremely embarrassed and apologetic. It went out on the major Winnipesaukee facebook groups and reached tens of thousands of people. Multiple people recognized them from what I am told.

Perfect. Thank you for doing this. Their behavior was terrible, your punishment was appropriate.

John Mercier · 10-25-2022, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dickiej

Ok…I admit, I’m confused…can you elaborate?

New England and NH have had the current status of open access across property since the Mayflower Compact.

''Common law in New Hampshire gives the public the right of access to land that's not posted.'' - www.wildlife.state.nh.us/landshare/faqs.html

After having land controlled by the ''Crown'', they chose to have land controlled by the ''Common''. It carried down through the MBC into NH before the division, stayed in NH after the division into a province... and tradition held to Statehood.

Finding them guilty of a violation would get them at maximum a small fine - but it takes up a lot of landowner time to take the day off and appear in court.

10-25-2022, 05:17 PM	#4
radioman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilford Posts: 217 Thanks: 6 Thanked 75 Times in 50 Posts	Tresspassers cODEMAN, iN MY ESTIMATION YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL VIOLATED!! tHESE PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ABOVE CURRENT SOCIAL MORES AND NEED A WAKEUP CALL.

10-25-2022, 10:05 PM	#6
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	I certainly hope the public embarrassment here on the forum and hopefully on social media caused these people to ponder their choices. The actual trespass is one thing... the urination and flaunting of it is a completely different dynamic. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

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10-25-2022, 03:40 PM	#1
dickiej Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 21 Thanked 171 Times in 93 Posts	People forget that this country was founded as much on property rights as it was on freedom. If you own property ITS YOUR PROPERTY! Nobody has the “right” to go onto your property uninvited….that should be common sense. If it’s a large amount of land, you should post it. But for someone to come onto your property with a home on it and walk onto your deck and actually piss on your land is the height of presumptuousness. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just wrong.

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dickiej Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 21 Thanked 171 Times in 93 Posts	Ok…I admit, I’m confused…can you elaborate?

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Patiently Watching Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 184 Thanks: 2 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts	Is your property posted? Are you familiar with Common Law in NH? Here is some important property owner info; https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/pub...-explained.pdf

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