Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Boating > Boat Repairs & Maintenance
Home Forums Gallery Webcams Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Register FAQ Members List Donate Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-01-2023, 10:36 AM   #1
WillyK
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Default Same issue on Simrad

I got a new boat this season with Simrad evo3 units. Built-in charts were junk, so I ordered the Navionics Platinum+ U.S. East card. Installed it last weekend, to discover what I think is the same bug being reported by others on Garmin units.

White spar buoys with red/black tips are ALL marked the same. In my case, all solid black (looks like others are seeing them solid white on the Garmin rendering).

Navionics web app has them correct:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/mXuGZeE2

But my Simrad display does not differentiate between them:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/bLuZ8EJ4

I've emailed help@navionics.com, looking for a Simrad support channel now, as I'm a bit worried Nav will point fingers at Simrad, claiming it's a rendering problem in their software given that it looks correct on the official web chart.

Very frustrating, black/red distinction is a critical safety issue on Winni.
WillyK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2023, 11:51 PM   #2
Downeast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 104
Thanks: 1
Thanked 39 Times in 22 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WillyK View Post
I got a new boat this season with Simrad evo3 units. Built-in charts were junk, so I ordered the Navionics Platinum+ U.S. East card. Installed it last weekend, to discover what I think is the same bug being reported by others on Garmin units.

White spar buoys with red/black tips are ALL marked the same. In my case, all solid black (looks like others are seeing them solid white on the Garmin rendering).

Navionics web app has them correct:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/mXuGZeE2

But my Simrad display does not differentiate between them:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/bLuZ8EJ4

I've emailed help@navionics.com, looking for a Simrad support channel now, as I'm a bit worried Nav will point fingers at Simrad, claiming it's a rendering problem in their software given that it looks correct on the official web chart.

Very frustrating, black/red distinction is a critical safety issue on Winni.
$249 card is now less useful than the v22.xx. Garmin has us right where they want us. C'mon Raymarine, psssst here is your chance, to reinvent the Dragonfly. not everyone needs an MFD !
Downeast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2023, 03:30 PM   #3
WillyK
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Default

I submitted a bug report to this URL, if others want to do the same:
https://supportforms.garmin.com/en-U...-error-report/

(that was the request from the Navionics support team, probably just passing the buck, but we'll see).
WillyK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2023, 07:17 AM   #4
swnoel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 529
Thanks: 83
Thanked 194 Times in 118 Posts
Default

I use my garmin charts and to be honest I don't care what the colors are. As long as the depth charts are correct and the buoy locations are too, I'm good.
swnoel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2023, 08:58 AM   #5
Rich
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Derry / Gilford
Posts: 1,247
Thanks: 74
Thanked 346 Times in 236 Posts
Default

Here's another example.

So you're on the lake, perhaps the sun is in your eyes, or the lighting is such that you can't see the colors clearly on the navaids. Perhaps you're in an area where you don't travel often.

So you glance at your Garmin to make an informed decision on which way to pass the markers that you can see coming up ahead.

Here's what you see on your display, which side of these markers do you pass?

Yes of course, check your paper chart, know where you are, use your compass, stop if needed, but the Garmin GPS should have been helpful here, instead of useless or confusing.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Don't listen to me, obviously I don't understand what I'm talking about!
Let's help each other save time and money: WinniGas.com
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 06-08-2023, 09:04 AM   #6
Rich
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Derry / Gilford
Posts: 1,247
Thanks: 74
Thanked 346 Times in 236 Posts
Default

Here is essentially the same area of the same chart in the Navionics web viewer.

The markers are much more visible (black rectangles) and have a color square on top of them to show red-top vs black-top type of navaids to indicate which side is safe passage.

It's a simple change, and the information used to be on the Garmin charts. So we're trying to get them to fix this issue. They seem to be listening, but it's taking some time to get the results published.

I also asked them to make the 'suggested route' lines a bit easier to see, perhaps a different color or make the line thicker as the current implementation tends to get lost among the depth contour lines.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Don't listen to me, obviously I don't understand what I'm talking about!
Let's help each other save time and money: WinniGas.com
Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.17675 seconds