fighter jets in Ctr Harbor

GTO · 08-12-2008, 08:18 PM

Anyone catch the 2 fighter jets in/around Ctr Harbor today performing maneuvers? Awesome show. They were up high over the water and were circling above as if they were chasing one another. They were shooting what looked like flares. The sound of them as they flew by was unbeleivable. A little entertainment for about 5 minutes.

ossipeeboater · 08-13-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GTO

Anyone catch the 2 fighter jets in/around Ctr Harbor today performing maneuvers? Awesome show. They were up high over the water and were circling above as if they were chasing one another. They were shooting what looked like flares. The sound of them as they flew by was unbeleivable. A little entertainment for about 5 minutes.

head them yesterday when I was in Moultonborough, it has been a while since I'd seen any around used to see them flying over the Sandwich mountians alot.

twoplustwo · 08-13-2008, 02:16 PM

They usually do maneuvers over Sandwich Notch once a year or so. Seems to me they were having a little unscheduled fun yesterday as they headed towards the lake. Can't say that I blame them

fatlazyless · 08-13-2008, 09:31 PM

Those are A10S tank-busters from somewhere which use the mountainous terrain of New Hampshire for training. I have seen them in a team of two, over Lake Winnipesaukee, and over the White Mountain National Forest, a number of times. Doing fly-byes at ski area lifts and releasing silver beach balls as two A10's do aerobatics close to the tree tops. Nothing like the old yellow biplane that does aerobatics over the lake....

Low flying and slow, I read somewhere it is has a tank-killer cannon that shoots large bullets made of depleted uranium: one shot can destroy a big armored tank by burning it from the inside out.

Could be put to serious good use destroying Russian tanks in Georgia, tonight, with Lt Cmdr McCain on the stick.

tis · 08-14-2008, 07:40 AM

Unfortunately I can't remember the details but one of those big planes crashed in Wolfeboro many years ago? Anyone remember? It must have been 15 years ago.

Pineedles · 08-14-2008, 08:02 AM

They weren't from Connecticut, we lost our Warthogs this spring. Well we really didn't lose them the Pentagon took them away from us.

WeirsGuard · 08-14-2008, 09:10 AM

There are a few Military Operating Areas (MOA's) over NH. Those A-10's were probably out of Barnes. Though not technically a Fighter, they do have a limited air to air capability. (An A-10 shot down an Iraqi helicopter during the first Gulf War using a television - guided air to ground missle.) They were probabaly shooting off the flares while simulating a ground attack. The flares are released to decoy any heat-seeking anti-aircraft missles as they tend to lock on to the hottest source, a flare being much hotter than the A-10's engines. I love the sound of jet engines - the sound of freedom!

VitaBene · 08-14-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WeirsGuard

There are a few Military Operating Areas (MOA's) over NH. Those A-10's were probably out of Barnes. Though not technically a Fighter, they do have a limited air to air capability. (An A-10 shot down an Iraqi helicopter during the first Gulf War using a television - guided air to ground missle.) They were probabaly shooting off the flares while simulating a ground attack. The flares are released to decoy any heat-seeking anti-aircraft missles as they tend to lock on to the hottest source, a flare being much hotter than the A-10's engines. I love the sound of jet engines - the sound of freedom!

The A-10 has been referred to by many adversaries as the Devil's Cross- it is the last thing a tanker would want to see!

Woodsy · 08-14-2008, 12:15 PM

A-10 is slowly being phased out of active units... its a hell of an aircraft. Titanium bathtub to protect the pilot, triple redundant controls, monster cannon. Those depleted uranium milkbottles it shoots can wreak havoc on just about anything... although it will take more than one shot to kill a MBT.

Woodsy

Seeker · 08-14-2008, 05:15 PM

That 30mm gatling gun firing at 3900rpm is something to fear. IIRC though it only holds 6000 rounds.

Winnipesaukee Divers · 08-14-2008, 05:24 PM

The A-10 s are from the Vermont Air National Guard. They train over here in the White Mountains. When I was on a job in N. Sandwich a few weeks ago, two them kept flying over us. They were flying low and sow enough so we could get a good look at the insignia on their sides.

Pineedles · 08-14-2008, 06:46 PM

In the interest of Homeland Security I realize that this thread should be shut down and deleted. I have revealed information and apologize. Others may unintendingly reveal other information which can be helpful to those that do not share a love of Winnipesaukee much less the USA.

VitaBene · 08-14-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

In the interest of Homeland Security I realize that this thread should be shut down and deleted. I have revealed information and apologize. Others may unintendingly reveal other information which can be helpful to those that do not share a love of Winnipesaukee much less the USA.

There has been nothing written here in this thread that can compromise national security.

Pineedles · 08-15-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

There has been nothing written here in this thread that can compromise national security.

I knew if I put out the right bait I could catch me a terrorist. Hmm, VitaBene, sounds like a furriner name to me. Can you say Al kaada?

VitaBene · 08-15-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

I knew if I put out the right bait I could catch me a terrorist. Hmm, VitaBene, sounds like a furriner name to me. Can you say Al kaada?

You caught me- I will have to give up my DoD Secret Cleararance now!!

Honestly though, there is so much in the public domain about the A-10, its capabilities, and their movements that those who hate us have much better places to get info- starting with our own government websites.

Woodsy · 08-15-2008, 10:41 AM

Now if you were leaking info on the F-22 Raptor, JSF or the Aurora we might have an issue....

Woodsy

Pineedles · 08-15-2008, 11:27 AM

You're a good sport VitaBene! Honestly without the A-10s zooming in and out of Center Harbor I'll have nothing fast to watch come 2009. You're right our own Gov't web sites are the best place for nasty people to collect info.

WeirsGuard · 08-15-2008, 11:29 AM

Back in the day I flew with a guy who was a program director for the A-10. Seems they had a problem where the left engine would stall when firing the cannon as a result of the exhaust gasses disturbing the airflow into the engine. (The cannon is slightly offset to the left.) Thousands of dollars and much engineering later the problem was finally solved by a crew chief who welded a piece of scrap over the left side of the fuselage that deflected the gasses. Made all the engineers look silly. Check out photos of any A-10 and you'll see a straight piece about a foot long on the forward left side of the fuselage. Speaking of low and slow; refueling these guys while going across the Atlantic turned a 4.5 - 5 hour flight into a 6 - 7 hour adventure. It was amazing how nice the A-10 drivers were when they were a 1000 miles out and running on fumes.

P.S. - I'd forgotten the VTANG had switched from F-16's to A-10's.

VtSteve · 08-18-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WeirsGuard

Back in the day I flew with a guy who was a program director for the A-10. Seems they had a problem where the left engine would stall when firing the cannon as a result of the exhaust gasses disturbing the airflow into the engine. (The cannon is slightly offset to the left.) Thousands of dollars and much engineering later the problem was finally solved by a crew chief who welded a piece of scrap over the left side of the fuselage that deflected the gasses. Made all the engineers look silly. Check out photos of any A-10 and you'll see a straight piece about a foot long on the forward left side of the fuselage. Speaking of low and slow; refueling these guys while going across the Atlantic turned a 4.5 - 5 hour flight into a 6 - 7 hour adventure. It was amazing how nice the A-10 drivers were when they were a 1000 miles out and running on fumes.

P.S. - I'd forgotten the VTANG had switched from F-16's to A-10's.

I can assure you, The Green Mountain Boys still fly F-16's. I haven't seen any A10's, but I'll keep my eyes peeled. It takes them much longer to leave the area than the F16's.

But, we do still make armament systems in Burlington for the A10.

08-12-2008, 08:18 PM	#1
GTO Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 340 Thanked 354 Times in 162 Posts	fighter jets in Ctr Harbor Anyone catch the 2 fighter jets in/around Ctr Harbor today performing maneuvers? Awesome show. They were up high over the water and were circling above as if they were chasing one another. They were shooting what looked like flares. The sound of them as they flew by was unbeleivable. A little entertainment for about 5 minutes. __________________ GTO

08-13-2008, 02:16 PM	#3
twoplustwo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 456 Thanks: 51 Thanked 39 Times in 21 Posts	they were some kind of loud They usually do maneuvers over Sandwich Notch once a year or so. Seems to me they were having a little unscheduled fun yesterday as they headed towards the lake. Can't say that I blame them

08-13-2008, 09:31 PM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,169 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	Those are A10S tank-busters from somewhere which use the mountainous terrain of New Hampshire for training. I have seen them in a team of two, over Lake Winnipesaukee, and over the White Mountain National Forest, a number of times. Doing fly-byes at ski area lifts and releasing silver beach balls as two A10's do aerobatics close to the tree tops. Nothing like the old yellow biplane that does aerobatics over the lake.... Low flying and slow, I read somewhere it is has a tank-killer cannon that shoots large bullets made of depleted uranium: one shot can destroy a big armored tank by burning it from the inside out. Could be put to serious good use destroying Russian tanks in Georgia, tonight, with Lt Cmdr McCain on the stick. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 08-14-2008 at 09:45 AM.

08-14-2008, 08:02 AM	#6
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	Lost the warthogs They weren't from Connecticut, we lost our Warthogs this spring. Well we really didn't lose them the Pentagon took them away from us.

08-14-2008, 09:10 AM	#7
WeirsGuard Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Warthogs Over Ctr. Harbor There are a few Military Operating Areas (MOA's) over NH. Those A-10's were probably out of Barnes. Though not technically a Fighter, they do have a limited air to air capability. (An A-10 shot down an Iraqi helicopter during the first Gulf War using a television - guided air to ground missle.) They were probabaly shooting off the flares while simulating a ground attack. The flares are released to decoy any heat-seeking anti-aircraft missles as they tend to lock on to the hottest source, a flare being much hotter than the A-10's engines. I love the sound of jet engines - the sound of freedom!

08-14-2008, 07:40 AM	#5
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,942 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,493 Times in 1,040 Posts	Unfortunately I can't remember the details but one of those big planes crashed in Wolfeboro many years ago? Anyone remember? It must have been 15 years ago.

08-14-2008, 12:15 PM	#9
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	A-10 is slowly being phased out of active units... its a hell of an aircraft. Titanium bathtub to protect the pilot, triple redundant controls, monster cannon. Those depleted uranium milkbottles it shoots can wreak havoc on just about anything... although it will take more than one shot to kill a MBT. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-14-2008, 05:15 PM	#10
Seeker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Effingham Posts: 408 Thanks: 37 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	That 30mm gatling gun firing at 3900rpm is something to fear. IIRC though it only holds 6000 rounds.

08-14-2008, 05:24 PM	#11
Winnipesaukee Divers Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Exeter, NH or @ WCYC on weekends Posts: 250 Thanks: 7 Thanked 46 Times in 28 Posts	They're out of Vermont. The A-10 s are from the Vermont Air National Guard. They train over here in the White Mountains. When I was on a job in N. Sandwich a few weeks ago, two them kept flying over us. They were flying low and sow enough so we could get a good look at the insignia on their sides.

08-14-2008, 06:46 PM	#12
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	Homeland Security In the interest of Homeland Security I realize that this thread should be shut down and deleted. I have revealed information and apologize. Others may unintendingly reveal other information which can be helpful to those that do not share a love of Winnipesaukee much less the USA.

08-15-2008, 10:41 AM	#16
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	Now if you were leaking info on the F-22 Raptor, JSF or the Aurora we might have an issue.... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-15-2008, 11:27 AM	#17
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	A-10s You're a good sport VitaBene! Honestly without the A-10s zooming in and out of Center Harbor I'll have nothing fast to watch come 2009. You're right our own Gov't web sites are the best place for nasty people to collect info.

08-15-2008, 11:29 AM	#18
WeirsGuard Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	A-10's over Ctr Harbor Back in the day I flew with a guy who was a program director for the A-10. Seems they had a problem where the left engine would stall when firing the cannon as a result of the exhaust gasses disturbing the airflow into the engine. (The cannon is slightly offset to the left.) Thousands of dollars and much engineering later the problem was finally solved by a crew chief who welded a piece of scrap over the left side of the fuselage that deflected the gasses. Made all the engineers look silly. Check out photos of any A-10 and you'll see a straight piece about a foot long on the forward left side of the fuselage. Speaking of low and slow; refueling these guys while going across the Atlantic turned a 4.5 - 5 hour flight into a 6 - 7 hour adventure. It was amazing how nice the A-10 drivers were when they were a 1000 miles out and running on fumes. P.S. - I'd forgotten the VTANG had switched from F-16's to A-10's.

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