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Old 10-18-2008, 09:59 AM   #1
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I don't get this.....
Noone has confirmed Jim was "let go".
Is it possible, as with any sales job, the payplan is mostly commission based? And the commissions simply are not there any more? So Jim left in pursuit of other opportunities?
While I'm sure such a valuable, long time employee must have drawn some type of base salary, my guess would be a large portion of his income was commission based. This is just a guess...I have no knowledge of the situation.
What confuses me is a stir in this thread about a salesperson (even a highly skilled successful one) leaving his current position. I don't know how anyone could find this strange, in light of current economic conditions. I'm sure this is the norm right now, with many retail salespeople, not the exception.
People that sell high ticket items simply need qualified buyers, that are willing to buy, to be "in the market". That is not what is happening right now.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:10 AM   #2
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I don't get this.....
Noone has confirmed Jim was "let go".
Is it possible, as with any sales job, the payplan is mostly commission based? And the commissions simply are not there any more? So Jim left in pursuit of other opportunities?
While I'm sure such a valuable, long time employee must have drawn some type of base salary, my guess would be a large portion of his income was commission based. This is just a guess...I have no knowledge of the situation.
What confuses me is a stir in this thread about a salesperson (even a highly skilled successful one) leaving his current position. I don't know how anyone could find this strange, in light of current economic conditions. I'm sure this is the norm right now, with many retail salespeople, not the exception.
People that sell high ticket items simply need qualified buyers, that are willing to buy, to be "in the market". That is not what is happening right now.
I have to say that I agree with you overall. There is a lot of ranting going on here based on a lot of speculation.

While we have all met "stupid" business owners, most actually know what they are doing. If Jim was in fact let go, I would expect it would have been after careful consideration, and not just some random act.

I also wonder how many people truly bring a lot of repeat business there. I've never bought a boat from Channel, so I've never met Jim, so this event really has no bearing on my decision to do future business there. My guess is that as far as future business is concerned, there is more new/untapped buyer potential than repeat buyer potential. Meaning that while this RIF might get a few people worked up, those folks are in the minority.

By and large, it seems that a lot of people here get really worked up about how local business operate. A business is there to make money first, and serve other community interests second. Despite what people might prefer, no one is owed a job or anything else, every day is a new contract.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:28 PM   #3
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I have stopped at Channel Marine many times each season over the past 30 years. Although I was aware of the change in ownership a few years ago, I wouldn't know the "new" owners if I tripped over them. It may take some time for them to realize it, but by letting Jim go they may have shot themselves in the foot.

Jim P. is a great guy. He was always out front to greet customers and friends and that was a tremendous good will builder for the business. The time he spent as an ambassador for Channel Marine came back to them in dollars many times over. I know I stopped there often for boat gas or to buy something in their store just because Jim was there. He will be sorely missed.

To me, Jim P. was Channel Marine
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:50 PM   #4
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I have stopped at Channel Marine many times each season over the past 30 years. Although I was aware of the change in ownership a few years ago, I wouldn't know the "new" owners if I tripped over them. It may take some time for them to realize it, but by letting Jim go they may have shot themselves in the foot.

Jim P. is a great guy. He was always out front to greet customers and friends and that was a tremendous good will builder for the business. The time he spent as an ambassador for Channel Marine came back to them in dollars many times over. I know I stopped there often for boat gas or to buy something in their store just because Jim was there. He will be sorely missed.

To me, Jim P. was Channel Marine
When did you confirm he was "let go"?
As opposed to leaving by his own choice.
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:25 PM   #5
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I'm glad you asked. I forgot to mention it.

I did confirm today that it was not his choice. (And not handled very well, or professionally by the owners either)

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TiltonBB -- I have to agree with you !!

I am a "repeat customer" of Channel, and have tried my damnest through the years to support them by utilizing the gas docks and services (repairs/storage). To that end I have Always been treated very well by the overall staff (if only in my head) -- I know there are many others out there lurking as well.

I too would not know the new owners if I tripped over them on the gas dock-- kind of a pity actually-- To your point, Jim P was the "storefront" or image (as was Billy Jr in days gone bye) -- always around, always cheerful, and always ready to chat it up and make you feel at home at the Marina. I too will miss this "fixture" and hope that the overhaul doesn't leak into Service and affect Linda whom appears to be the Last of the best left.

With all that said -- I stand back and respect the fact that it is a business and the owners have/had their reasons which are not for us to know (rightfully) nor to be debated on a public forum. I, as a small business owner myself, am a firm believer of the "Three sides to a Story" theory -- His side / her side / and the REAL story!!!

I wish Jim the best of luck
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:24 PM   #7
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TiltonBB -- I have to agree with you !!

I too would not know the new owners if I tripped over them on the gas dock-- kind of a pity actually-- To your point, Jim P was the "storefront" or image (as was Billy Jr in days gone bye) -- always around, always cheerful, and always ready to chat it up and make you feel at home at the Marina. I too will miss this "fixture" and hope that the overhaul doesn't leak into Service and affect Linda whom appears to be the Last of the best left.

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Anyone know where Jim P landed ??
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When did you confirm he was "let go"?
As opposed to leaving by his own choice.
Thought i already confirmed that he was let go. It was not by his own choice.

I am sure he will land on his feet
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