What happens to the lake if Romney wins?

[tis]

We went by his house by boat today and there were two MP boats out there. One was an old work type boat-big though and the other was a chaser boat. We also went to Robert's Cove to check out the loon baby but couldn't find it. The artificial nest is still there and I had said before it had a rope in place to hold it, but I think it must have an anchor. The rope must have been holding the nesting loon sign beside it. Has anyone seen any babies yet? Sorry, this is not a loon thread. Forget I asked.

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by no-engine

FYI!

Laconia is far too short for the usual aircraft,

This might be the perfect push the Noonans need to get approval for Skydive Laconia. Hey, Mitt waterskis so why not pull a parachute after jumping out of Airforce 1?

[SteveA]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...DEW_story.html

This will be interesting. Even though I do not want him to be President, I do hope he enjoys his stay at the lake. Politics aside, he seems like a good family man.

[tis]

Originally Posted by SteveA

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...DEW_story.html

This will be interesting. Even though I do not want him to be President, I do hope he enjoys his stay at the lake. Politics aside, he seems like a good family man.

I agree, he seems like a good family man.

You always hear on the news how stuffy he is. When he is in Wolfeboro, he is not stuffy at all. He acts just like the rest of us. He goes into the local hardware store, lumberyard, dive store. He goes to the dump since his "son's aren't always around to do it any more". He wears his old clothes just like the rest of us. No stuffy tie and suit around Wolfeboro. Most people that I know like him and Ann. They fit right in. Really.

[sa meredith]

Originally Posted by Pineedles

I don't want to start a political conversation here, just trying to understand the implications as it applies to the lake, if Romney becomes President. I'm sure he loves the lake, as do most all of us, and would probably want to continue to enjoy it with his family on occasion. Taking that as a given, what would be the impact to the "defensive zone" that most likely would be set up around the compound?

This might be a good analogy. Back when I was a kid, 7th, 8th, 9th grade (late 70's, early 80's) my best friend's next door neighbors were very very wealthy. They owned a summer home, oceanfront, in Kennibunkport, Maine. My friend was an only child, so whenever his family travelled with the neighbors to Kennibunkport for a weekend, he took a friend along so he had something to do, as the adults pretty much "cocktailed" all weekend. What a great place to spend time in the summer...although I was far to young to appreciate it. Anyway...as a kid, I got to know the people who owned the home. Well, later in life, by coincidence, they came into my pace of business and I recognized them. We talked for quite some time, and I inquired as to what the town was like after Bush Senior became president (the Bush family owns a summer home in Kennibunkport, for anyone who may not know). They said it all started when he was Vice President...1981. And only got worse. When a trip was planned to Kennibunkport by Bush, the "forward team" of secret service would show up to town days ahead doing security sweeps, and closing many well travelled roads. When Vice President Bush (later President Bush) was actually there, sections of beaches were closed, and many more streets. The folks I knew expressed that it was extremely intrusive, and often made it very difficult to enjoy a weekend. The secret service acted in a way that was not at all sensitive to the fact that many of the wealthy summer residents simply wanted to go about their business. Street closings often cause traffic jams, and made simple trips to the diner for breakfast impossible.
And that was back in the 80's. I can only imagine what type of security messures are taken in this day and age.
I would think a president spending a couple of days at his lake house will not be a good thing. Especially if he decides to go out to dinner or do some bar hopping (probably not bar hopping).

[John A. Birdsall]

Well, I told my grand kids that there were whales in the lake, and I said here comes one now. My wife did not speak for a month!

[LIforrelaxin]

If Mitt where to become president, or even just become the Republican Candidate, The lake would never be the same. Once secret service comes into the picture, there will be whole sale changes when he is in town... further more you have to deal with those changes even after he leave office as the Secret Service stays involved after he leave office.

On the flip side property values around the lake would sky rocket....Much as the do everywhere a president has a home.

Now on the flipside, things do calm down after a president is out of office for a while. Last year while in Kennebunk Port for our honeymoon, we where informed that the elder Bush was at Walkers Point for the long weekend... the differences where very subtle, around town... First his boat went from the harbor area, out to a morning just off shore, and the two secret service boats left harbor and started Patroling around the point. After that there really wasn't an intrusion on life around the area. However having said that, last year marked something like 14 years or so out office for President Bush Sr.

[NoBozo]

MY FRIENDS: This is NOT a problem. Just vote for The ONE...and the lake will not be affected. NB

[lawn psycho]

The Bush's actually fly into Sanford, not Pease. They take motocade to K-port.

I live not far from Walker's point. When the family is there, it's not that big a deal it's when he's on the move and streets get closed, etc it can be a pain.

When Bush's boat is on the mooring ball, two divers inspect it before they bring him out to hop onboard. The have a Coast Guard boat that patrols around the property and if you try to get close on the water they will send you away from the area. There are cameras all over the property. I ride my bike along Ocean Ave and the property is fenced and you can see they have every angle covered.

If Romney becomes the GOP candidate and/or the president, I suspect a fairly large area will be blocked off as a restricted area on the water. That would likely be the only impact on the water.

When the motorcade is on the move, the streets are closed, they have a couple forward posted vehicles that conduct sweeps and then next thing you know the limo streaks by with agents hanging out of vans and suburbans in close proximity to the president. The motorcade does not follow the posted speed limit that is for sure

[Jonas Pilot]

Walker's Point Maine.

[Kamper]

If only somebody would buy the place. Then there'd be no problem.

[Slickcraft]

If it becomes Lake MittWinni, the Marine Patrol budget will get a big bump up.

Fortunately for us Welch Island would be outside the security perimeter excepting a probable infrequent boat ride. With the "Beast" limo weighing an estimated 14,000 lbs, a special boat may have to be constructed to carry the functional equivalent around the lake in style.

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

MY FRIENDS: This is NOT a problem. Just vote for The ONE...and the lake will not be affected. NB

But the country will be.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

If Mitt where to become president, or even just become the Republican Candidate, The lake would never be the same. ...On the flip side, property values around the lake would skyrocket....Much as they do everywhere a president has a home.

When President Nixon took office, I watched as an island near Miami became his second home—and Key Biscayne then changed drastically. I had friends on Key Biscayne which at that time, was a sleepy community of modest one-story ranch homes, long public beachfronts, and wide-open spaces.

But today?

"Key Biscayne is one of the wealthiest communities in the United States. The community, which is only accessed by boat and the Rickenbacker Causeway, served as the Florida home to former president, Richard Nixon and actor Andy Garcia...

The community of Key Biscayne is an affluent population by local and national standards...The median household income for Key Biscayne is $86,599...The property values of Key Biscayne reach a total of $2 billion and Key Biscayne ranked number 134 on Worth’s’ 250 Richest U.S towns in 2001.

In September of 2004, the town mayor restricted the use of wave runners and jet skis within 300 feet of the shoreline. The city also has begun the groundwork to implement new zoning codes that would prompt redevelopment and protect Key Biscayne’s “character.”

The island currently contains five public parks and about 30 acres of beach.
http://mpoportal.fiu.edu/community_h...cfm?hist_id=22

While the number of public parks is up, "wide open-spaces" for the public is down.

A land-rich Miami family donated a huge coconut plantation for the "open-air enjoyment" of every person: local "Movers and Shakers" fought that generous and philanthrophic donation in court, and now Key Biscayne has Professional Tennis Championships instead.

I hope Romney sells his place before any radical change arrives at the Lakes Region.

[dpg]

What....Your all assuming he's going to win??

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by dpg

what....your all assuming he's going to win??

Dewey Wins!

I don't mean for this to be a political statement. I am just curious about what everyone's experience and imagination can come up with. BTW, you all have been very imaginative and I appreciate your contributions. Submarines? Excellent!

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Where exactly is Clark's Point when traveling by boat. I would like to find Romney's house when out on the lake. I looked on the Duncan chart and I can't seem to find it.

[tis]

From downtown Wolfeboro by boat, follow the shoreline on your left going by Brewster Academy, then Brewster (Sandy) Beach. Continue around the "corner". That outermost point is Clark's Pointe. It is a few houses beyond that.

I am not very good at explaining things but hope that helps. You really can't miss it though if you just continue along that shore.

[jrc]

As I understand it, the Romney house is on the east side of Springfield Point.

If you find Little Barn Door Island on the chart, due east of there is the Varney Islands, then Worcester Island then Springfield Point.


Wow I guess I'm at the wrong house.

[tis]

It would be across from Springfield Point.

[gravy boat]

Well, skinny dipping after dark would be out. Who knows how many SS divers' eyes would be peering up from the depths around the bay!

Much activity surrounding the premises would be monitored, I would think. More so a few weeks before he comes to town and during the visit. Plain clothes surveillance, video cameras strategically placed, etc. I'll lend the SS the motion-activated camera I gave hubby a few years ago -- it's still in the box!

I would imagine the poor people of Wolfeboro will see gridlock when he's on the move, but that would be about it. Dignitaries would not likely come to NH, but the White House or Camp David. Logistically a nightmare for all. They'll likely not draw any more attention to a visit as necessary, unless it involves good PR for the WH.

GB

[Merrymeeting]

My in-laws live a short way outside of Kennebunkport. My recollection is that Bush's presence there was of minimal impact.

As others have mentioned, he rarely entertained dignitaries there.

If anything, some of the businesses complained that people stayed away because they assumed it was going to be crowded/crazy.

On occasion, there would be the random road closure, but not enough to worry about.

My biggest worry would be the after affect of all the publicity that our beloved small town would get.

[lawn psycho]

merrymeeting, the biggest factor that determines the impact to you is if you are on the actual route. To Walker's point there are lots of other paths you can choose to get around if you know the area.

In the case of the Lake, if you happen to be driving around the lake on a busy weekend day and a Presidential Motorcade is on the move, you may change your opinion It's certainly not the end of the world but you can be held up in traffic for a while if you hit the right place at the wrong time.

[tis]

WE had friends who lived very close to the Bush's house and when they were there and we went to visit, you could only go one direction. The road by their house was closed.

[riverat]

How much inconvienence would there be?
Vehicle searches(car and boats) and monitoring cellphone conversations? Checking adult diapers before boarding the mount? I have a feeling we will need to change the state motto.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

This woman would be unemployed.

[KBoater]

Mitt will pay Brewster Academy $$$$$$$ to land Marine one on their fields
and no impact to traffic will happen except for the beach goers at Brewster Beach.
However roping off part of Winni will happen.
Just my solution.

[Smith Point]

I know there is an Air force 1, and Marine 1, Motorcade 1, (army) but is there a Navy 1? What kind of boat does the president get? If I was president that would be my first question, where is my new boat!

[Pineedles]

Romney says he "loves Lake Winnipesaukee."



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...y-back-in-n.h/

[Smith Point]

If Mitt wins the only thing that I can imagine is, that the marine patrol will double, with state police on board, coast guard cutters allover the place, navy seals tooling around, secret service marine division stopping every vessel within a ¼ of a mile of mitts place. Just going to Wolfeboro for a ice cream cone would be a nightmare wondering if your going to get torpedoed out of the water!
In my opinion Mr. Romney is the best person to for the job at hand, but should I vote for a another candidate for my own selfish reasons to save the way of life I have been accustom to on the lake?

[phoenix]

Kennebunkport seems to have survived and i suspect will help property values when they show images from the lake. Vote who you think will help the country the best and see where it goes

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by phoenix

Kennebunkport seems to have survived and i suspect will help property values when they show images from the lake. Vote who you think will help the country the best and see where it goes

I heard from those involved that he has personal interrests in the Northern pass project and would like to see it go thru. Sad..

[Grandpa Redneck]

I have plenty of reasons NOT to vote for Mitt, and the Lake has absolutely nothing to do with them. 2A Lies to start with. Only one candidate has NH values of Liberty, Freedom and Frugality, and the record to show he means what he says.

[Pineedles]

Please don't get into a political debate here. This thread is to discuss the imaginable and the unimaginable (read that as funny and or serious) consequences of having a presidential retreat here on the lake.

[miketerrain]

If he becomes president and he decides to vacation there, it won't be fun to drive,walk or even boat in the area. The reality is that the Secret Service will make it a huge frozen zone. They don't care if people have been there since the 1950's and disrupting peoples lives. I've been in an areas when both President Bush and Obama comes to town, it's not a fun commute. As far as boating, there will be a huge area that will be shut down to the public. There will be plenty state, local and secret service personal on boats protecting the waterfront.
But on a lighter note. If the Secret Service believes they can't ensure his safety and secure the surrounding perimeter, they won't let him stay there. Hopefully it's the latter scenario.

[Grant]

On a related note (I probably mentioned this before), if any of you divers like exploring Clark Point, this will DEFINITELY be out of the question during a Romney administration. But if you're down for an adventure, I'm sure a dive there would result in a very quick encounter with a Navy Seal diver.

[AC2717]

One might think, that if it is unknown that he is there, there would be no attention to be drawn to the area, and therefore no big deal,

which is the way I would want to have it.

[Merrymeeting]

My in-laws live in Kennebunkport. For the most part, the impact was negligable when George Sr was president.

As others have suggested, while he was in office he spent minimal time there. When he was there, he tended to stay in his own compound.

If anything, the shop owners complained that it actually hurt business. People assumed it would be bad so they stayed away.

[alsadad]

January 2013
Immediately following the inauguration, the government shuts down all websites featuring aerial images of the lake and closes Laconia Airport to all non-military traffic. In an unlikely alliance, Skydive Laconia joins forces with Flyguy to pepper the FAA with prank calls (Is your De Havilland Canada DHC-2Beaver running? Better catch it!).

February 2013
After completely restoring the American economy in just two weeks, President Romney jets away for a well-deserved vacation. Four Secret Service agents, disguised as typical New Hampshire ice fishermen (RayBans, black overcoats, wing tips and Uzis) are rescued from the waters off of Clark Point when a sudden thaw weakens the ice. WinniDivers boasts its best winter season ever after recovering three Suburbans, two anti-aircraft missile emplacements, and Marine One from under the ice. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital acquires a controlling interest in WinniDivers.

March 2013
Vice President Gingrich resigns after the Laconia Citizen exposes his dalliance with a waitress at the Wolfeboro Inn. The resulting publicity boosts sales beyond even George Soderberg’s wildest dreams. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital acquires a controlling interest in the Inn.

April 1, 2013
President Romney announces his nominee to replace Gingrich – our own Bear Islander. BI promptly takes to the airwaves to propose a Constitutional Amendment that would permit camp directors nationwide to unilaterally impose no-wake zones of up to 2 miles in diameter around any waterfront camp. President Romney also announces his nomination for a vacancy on the Supreme Court – Ralph Nader. Fortunately, this all turns out to be an elaborate April Fools joke, except for the part about BI as VP and except for the part about the Constitutional Amendment. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital acquires Camp Lawrence, Camp Nokomis, Camp Tecumseh and Camp.

May 2013
President Romney takes another well-deserved vacation on the shores of Lake Winnipesaukee. In a surprising move, SBONH endorses a lake-wide no-wake zone to facilitate security precautions for the NH White House. In an equally surprising move, the “lame-stream liberals” at WINNFABS oppose the restrictions and distribute T-shirts with their new slogan: Live Free, as long as it’s under 45. Easter Seals announces the suspension of its lake-related fund raising activities, sensing that a “Poker Paddle” just won’t have the same draw. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital…oh, never mind. Even they can’t figure out how to make money off of this.

June 2013
Waterfront property values take an enormous hit from the lake-wide no-wake zone. Or maybe values skyrocket, I’m not sure which. In either event, WINNFABS releases a statement saying, “Nyah, Nyah, we told you so.” Sensing a golden business opportunity, disgraced former Texas Governor Perry establishes a real estate firm in Wolfeboro and reminds residents that the three most important considerations in real estate are “Location, location and, uh,… I forget the other one.”

July 4, 2013
Responding to a frantic report from Clark Point of “shots fired” the CIA launches a protective drone attack. Due to an unfortunate misunderstanding concerning map coordinates, the drones destroy the Mount Washington Observatory rather than the intended target, the “Wolfeboro Fireworks Barge Sponsored by Bain Capital.”

August 2013
Espousing the virtues of bringing private sector values (CEO style) to the government, President Romney takes yet another vacation at Clark Point, where he announces plans to attend ForumFest. The Secret Service agrees only after FLL and APS agree to stay home. An unfortunate incident occurs on the boat ride to Center Harbor when, mistaking it for an Iranian aircraft carrier, a Navy escort submarine torpedoes the “Bain Capital Presents the MV Mount Washington.”

September 2013
President Romney graciously allows Bill and Hillary Clinton to use his lake home as a retreat in an attempt to rekindle their romance. Unfortunately, a recently laid-off waitress from the Bain Capital Inn at Wolfeboro saunters by in a string bikini and, well, you don’t need me to predict the rest of this little nugget. In an unrelated development, BI abruptly resigns as VP to compete on “Survivor: Governors Island.”

October 2013
October seems like a quiet month at the lake until the annual water level reduction reveals an underwater prison cell inhabited by Ron Paul, who had disappeared from public view after the Florida primary. This revelation puts the lie to the stories circulated in the press that little green men from another universe had reclaimed Ron Paul and taken him home to be the chief economic advisor to the supreme leader of the planet Latipacniab.

November 2013
Nothing happened. Really. It’s November. In NH.

December 2013
The state coffers are empty. The Governor thought the influx of tourist dollars would never end, but the month of November brought it all to a screeching halt. When the state can’t make the monthly payment, creditors repossess the White Mountains which he mortgaged to buy the Parthenon from cash-strapped Greece and to install indoor plumbing for the Governor’s Mansion. In a last ditch effort to make the state payroll, the Governor attempts to pawn Quebec, which he won in a drunken poker game with Prime Minister Harper, but no one will take it. Fearing a loss on their New Hampshire investments, Bain Capital steps in and buys Quebec, renaming it “La Belle Province Offert Par Capital du Bain.” A grateful Governor Lynch changes the state motto to “Buy low, slash jobs, sell high.”

[SAMIAM]

All time funniest post on the forum...laughing so hard I can't see the keyboard from the tears.

[Smith Point]

Somehow your predictions don’t seem so far from the truth.

[Pineedles]

Hilarious! I can't stop laughing over Perry's, location, location, uhhhh.

[bigdog]

Latest on newswire: Mitt Romney to Receive Secret Service Protection

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ce-protection/

The Lake may not be the same this summer with those Secret Service boats and helicopters patroling the waters.

Could be real busy this summer around Wolfeboro !

Bigdog

[CateP]

I think Mitt is going to be really busy campaigning all over the country this summer and may be here LESS than he usually is.

[tis]

Originally Posted by CateP

I think Mitt is going to be really busy campaigning all over the country this summer and may be here LESS than he usually is.

I thought the same thing. I don't think Mitt will be around the lake much this summer.

[AC2717]

Originally Posted by tis

I thought the same thing. I don't think Mitt will be around the lake much this summer.

Or next summer after he wins, he will be busy getting us back into shape

[tis]

Originally Posted by AC2717

Or next summer after he wins, he will be busy getting us back into shape

Let's hope so. We sure need to get back into shape!!!!!!!!!!!

[Belmont Resident]

Originally Posted by tis

Let's hope so. We sure need to get back into shape!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope so too, with all the negative BS he slings.

[Coolbreeze]

B-S is B-S... regardless of it being positive or negative. It all still is B-S.