Taxes

[John Mercier]

Honestly, I don't know.
We have 25 unincorporated places.

https://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/f...-tax-rates.pdf

If you look at Atkinson & Gilmanton Academy Grant (U) that would may be what the court means.
I am guessing they mean the Municipal Rate should be Zero, County Tax Rate should be 2.53 and the Statewide Education Tax Rate should be the 1.22 turned over to the State of NH due to having no local education.

But I am guessing at best.

[Tofu]

LOL, I guess Nitrovandam saw this back in 2019 and called it. Big out of state money moving INTO New Hampshire as caused this issue. It has cost many of the older NH residence to be sold off like you are explaining now about having to sale your Waterfront homes because of cost. And most on here came from another state, and came here with a vast amount of spendable cash bumping old time NH citizens out of their homes because of increase in their taxes etc etc.

This is just KARMA, Coming back around and now effecting you. Its funny how life always comes in a 360 degree circle. Now it's your time to take it on the hiney like NH people had to, and you don't find it very comforting. When Karma bites, it usually leaves a mark.

What Goes around .... Comes around. Please just keep paying until you can't. Then as someone mentioned, You can move to Maine for a few years to take advantage of the lower cost there... UNTIL you can't. Then if Canada becomes our 51st State that would be an option to look at. They have more water frontage then Maine has.

[tis]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Honestly, I don't know.
We have 25 unincorporated places.

https://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/f...-tax-rates.pdf

If you look at Atkinson & Gilmanton Academy Grant (U) that would may be what the court means.
I am guessing they mean the Municipal Rate should be Zero, County Tax Rate should be 2.53 and the Statewide Education Tax Rate should be the 1.22 turned over to the State of NH due to having no local education.

But I am guessing at best.

I have a feeling we are not alone. Nobody is explaining it, just reporting it.

[John Mercier]

I think because, if I read it correctly, its effect would be mainly on Coos County.
That is where the majority of the unincorporated places are.

For the rest of us, it seems the system that we have used for this is staying put.
So local taxes shouldn't be affected by the decision.

[longislander]

https://greatnorthernink.wordpress.c...ce=chatgpt.com

Also,

" ... allowing negative local tax rates under the Statewide Education Property Tax (SWEPT)—which effectively resulted in unincorporated places paying nothing—was unconstitutional. The Court declared that policy violates Part II, Article 5 of the New Hampshire Constitution, because it undermines the requirements of “equal valuation and uniform rate throughout the State”

" ... found that the practice of setting "negative tax rates" for the Statewide Education Property Tax (SWEPT) in unincorporated towns without school districts is unconstitutional. These negative rates allowed such towns to offset their SWEPT tax, effectively raising no revenue for education, which the court deemed a violation of the state constitution’s requirement for uniform taxation under Part II, Article 5.



"What this means
Short term: Unincorporated places that currently have negative SWEPT rates remain in limbo. They’re still effectively exempt from paying, until lawmakers step in.

Next steps: The legislature and governor are tasked with crafting reforms to ensure all properties are taxed fairly in accordance with constitutional standards.

Broader implications: The decision does not impact the larger Rand case challenging the adequacy of New Hampshire’s school funding formula—such matters are still working through the courts and are expected to influence future funding policy


Bottom line: Negative tax rates under the SWEPT scheme are now ruled unconstitutional. The state has until the legislative process plays out to fix the law and ensure consistent, uniform taxation statewide."

[John Mercier]

https://www.unionleader.com/news/cou...ock_id=1128300

I guess the funding is also below the threshold.

[map]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

If they aren't residing here, and only spending a couple of months...
Not really that easy to ''get involved''.

This is just an excuse. As someone who lives full time (retired) in an HOA community that has more than half second home owners I can tell you these people don't even take the time to zoom in on an HOA meeting or vote on the budget on line which takes like a quick minute to do! And they don't read the HOA emails to keep up to date with things they need to know. Baffling to me.

If they truly cared about what is going on here locally there is a lot they can do. Read the local news. Write letters to the editor, the city/town councilmen, etc. Maybe come up a few days before the weekend to attend a meeting and speak up once in a while.

Where there's a will, there's a way if you truly care about issues....if not, don't complain.

Having a home or "just a house to play in" is still a responsibility, whether you have one or two or three or ten homes...

[John Mercier]

HOA works under a property right.
Municipalities work under a residency requirement.

[map]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

HOA works under a property right.
Municipalities work under a residency requirement.

As I already mentioned there’s still a lot a second homeowner can do.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by map

As I already mentioned there’s still a lot a second homeowner can do.

My other home is in a 670 door gated neighborhood with an HOA. There are a lot of policy and rules issues that homeowners can vote on. There are many committees for safety, activities, amenities, rules, property appearance changes, and other issues that people can serve on. It seems the same small group of people get involved, some serve on multiple committees. Others just complain but don't get involved. I fly down to meetings for a committee I am on several times over the summer.

It was the same growing up in a small New England town. A few people get involved, others couldn't tell you anything about the town management. They just care what day their rubbish gets picked up and if their street gets plowed.

[Major]

Some of us still work and have busy lives so the last thing we want to do is get involved with HOAs. Thank goodness we have people who volunteer. Yes, we have had our fair share of former captains of industry wanting to recapture the glory of a past life, but for the most part they are very nice people wanting to help.

We had a situation this weekend in which mailboxes were vandalized. Our association president took the time on Saturday to canvass the neighborhood to see if anyone had a video showing the damage. Unfortunately, our camera didn't show anything.

[map]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

My other home is in a 670 door gated neighborhood with an HOA. There are a lot of policy and rules issues that homeowners can vote on. There are many committees for safety, activities, amenities, rules, property appearance changes, and other issues that people can serve on. It seems the same small group of people get involved, some serve on multiple committees. Others just complain but don't get involved. I fly down to meetings for a committee I am on several times over the summer.

It was the same growing up in a small New England town. A few people get involved, others couldn't tell you anything about the town management. They just care what day their rubbish gets picked up and if their street gets plowed.

Yes. Right.

But my point is - regarding taxes- second homeowners pay them also so they have a lot of skin in the game and though they can’t vote they certainly can write letters, go to a town or city meeting once in a while and speak up, contact a state representative, etc.

[TheProfessor]

Originally Posted by map

an HOA community that has more than half second home owners I can tell you these people don't even take the time to zoom in on an HOA meeting or vote on the budget

Am tired of Zoom meetings. Covid is mostly over now. Let's get back to real people meetings. To see board members face to face. In person.

But. People don't get connected to the HOA either Zoom or in person.

It is up to the board to figure out ways to get more people to get involved.

[WinnisquamZ]

Nope. A board only has to get enough votes in one place to move their agenda forward


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[map]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

Am tired of Zoom meetings. Covid is mostly over now. Let's get back to real people meetings. To see board members face to face. In person.

But. People don't get connected to the HOA either Zoom or in person.

It is up to the board to figure out ways to get more people to get involved.

Our board does all meetings in person. They just make Zoom
Available for those that can’t or don’t want to come in person. Believe it or not some people who are in the community at the time of the meeting will Zoom in rather than walk up to the meeting! I kid you not!