No wake zones - Page 2

Woodsy · 08-20-2014, 07:21 AM

Phantom...

Do you have a link to that law? I looked and there is NO mention of 150' headway speed requirement between moving boats. The mass.gov website did have these rules... Nowhere is it mentioned between moving boats.

http://www.mass.gov/eea/grants-and-t...w-summary.html

http://www.usps.org/e_stuff/document...oating-law.pdf

Woodsy

Phantom · 08-20-2014, 08:12 PM

Woodsy

Give me some time & I will try and find it for you.....

As usual, I am traveling and have limited internet "playtime" ( the forum is my stress relief

)

In the meantime, if I recall correctly it is buried in Chapter 90 of the State Reg's

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Greene's Basin Girl · 08-21-2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Phantom...

Do you have a link to that law? I looked and there is NO mention of 150' headway speed requirement between moving boats. The mass.gov website did have these rules... Nowhere is it mentioned between moving boats.

http://www.mass.gov/eea/grants-and-t...w-summary.html

http://www.usps.org/e_stuff/document...oating-law.pdf

Woodsy

As I mentioned previously - you should take a look at the Boater's Guide of NH. Most marina's have the free book. It is a handbook of NH boating laws and responsibilities. On page 40 it talks about the 150 ft. Rule.

Woodsy · 08-21-2014, 09:32 AM

GBG....

I am WELL aware of the NH rules & regs.... No worries there! I have been boating in NH for the last 35 years or so...

I was asking Phantom about a MA rule requiring headway speed when 2 moving boats are within 150'. He had mentioned that MA had that rule, and I looked and couldn't find it. A NH marina is not going to have a MA rule handbook....

I was pretty sure that the 150' rule (required separation between moving boats) was unique to NH.

Woodsy

Greene's Basin Girl · 08-21-2014, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsy

GBG....

I am WELL aware of the NH rules & regs.... No worries there! I have been boating in NH for the last 35 years or so...

I was asking Phantom about a MA rule requiring headway speed when 2 moving boats are within 150'. He had mentioned that MA had that rule, and I looked and couldn't find it. A NH marina is not going to have a MA rule handbook....

I was pretty sure that the 150' rule (required separation between moving boats) was unique to NH.

Woodsy

Sorry about that- I thought you were talking about NH. Many of us have been on the lake a very long time. I have been on Winnipesaukee for 61 years. I didn't mean to get you upset.

Woodsy · 08-21-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

Sorry about that- I thought you were talking about NH. Many of us have been on the lake a very long time. I have been on Winnipesaukee for 61 years. I didn't mean to get you upset.

GBG..

Not upset at all... No need to apologize! :-)

Woodsy

hazelnut · 08-21-2014, 03:28 PM

https://www.usps.org/e_stuff/documen...oating-law.pdf

Headway speed:defined as the minimum speed a vessel may be operated to maintain steerageway,but not to exceed 6 miles per hour.
• Don’t operate your boat at more than headway speed when within 150 to 300 feet of shorelines used as swimming areas.
• Use headway speed when within 150 feet of a marina, ramp, raft or float.
• Use headway speed within 150 feet of a swimmer.
......
• Don’t operate at more than headway speed when within 150 feet of a swimmer, the shore, or a moored
vessel.

I'll let you all peruse this document but I see no mention of a 150 foot rule that pertains to vessels that are on plane and underway. I see mentions of fixed objects and moored vessels, but that is it. Check it out and let me know. I, along with Woodsy, was told many times that the 150 foot rule, with concern to vessels underway, above No Wake speed, is totally unique to New Hampshire inland waterways. If somebody can prove otherwise I will stand corrected.

ishoot308 · 08-21-2014, 03:44 PM

I believe the 150' safe passage rule between two operating vessels is quite unique to NH...

Dan

Dave R · 08-21-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

I believe the 150' safe passage rule between two operating vessels is quite unique to NH...

Dan

Agreed. I have never seen it anywhere else. I prefer the way everyone else does it.

Phantom · 08-22-2014, 07:00 AM

VERY Interesting !!!

I stand corrected ....... but on a side note our local MP (actually local PD) enforce boat to boat -- can't wait to get into that verbal scuffle with them

Thanks Hazlenut

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08-20-2014, 07:21 AM	#101
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,964 Thanks: 80 Thanked 978 Times in 439 Posts	Phantom... Do you have a link to that law? I looked and there is NO mention of 150' headway speed requirement between moving boats. The mass.gov website did have these rules... Nowhere is it mentioned between moving boats. http://www.mass.gov/eea/grants-and-t...w-summary.html http://www.usps.org/e_stuff/document...oating-law.pdf Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-20-2014, 08:12 PM	#102
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	Woodsy Give me some time & I will try and find it for you..... As usual, I am traveling and have limited internet "playtime" ( the forum is my stress relief ) In the meantime, if I recall correctly it is buried in Chapter 90 of the State Reg's . __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

08-21-2014, 09:32 AM	#104
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,964 Thanks: 80 Thanked 978 Times in 439 Posts	GBG.... I am WELL aware of the NH rules & regs.... No worries there! I have been boating in NH for the last 35 years or so... I was asking Phantom about a MA rule requiring headway speed when 2 moving boats are within 150'. He had mentioned that MA had that rule, and I looked and couldn't find it. A NH marina is not going to have a MA rule handbook.... I was pretty sure that the 150' rule (required separation between moving boats) was unique to NH. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-21-2014, 03:28 PM	#107
hazelnut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,348 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 508 Thanked 462 Times in 162 Posts	Here is the Mass Boating law Ch 90B https://www.usps.org/e_stuff/documen...oating-law.pdf Headway speed:defined as the minimum speed a vessel may be operated to maintain steerageway,but not to exceed 6 miles per hour. • Don’t operate your boat at more than headway speed when within 150 to 300 feet of shorelines used as swimming areas. • Use headway speed when within 150 feet of a marina, ramp, raft or float. • Use headway speed within 150 feet of a swimmer. ...... • Don’t operate at more than headway speed when within 150 feet of a swimmer, the shore, or a moored vessel. I'll let you all peruse this document but I see no mention of a 150 foot rule that pertains to vessels that are on plane and underway. I see mentions of fixed objects and moored vessels, but that is it. Check it out and let me know. I, along with Woodsy, was told many times that the 150 foot rule, with concern to vessels underway, above No Wake speed, is totally unique to New Hampshire inland waterways. If somebody can prove otherwise I will stand corrected.

08-21-2014, 03:44 PM	#108
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,225 Thanks: 2,381 Thanked 5,274 Times in 2,049 Posts	I believe the 150' safe passage rule between two operating vessels is quite unique to NH... Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

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08-22-2014, 07:00 AM	#110
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	VERY Interesting !!! I stand corrected ....... but on a side note our local MP (actually local PD) enforce boat to boat -- can't wait to get into that verbal scuffle with them Thanks Hazlenut . __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*