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joey2665 03-15-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tummyman (Post 327874)
Right from the CDC web site....here is the link and below is an excerpt...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...revention.html

Know How it Spreads

Illustration: woman sneezing on man

There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).

Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Time to move on........

Well since you have said “time to move on” we absolutely should. Didn’t know you were the webmaster


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gillygirl 03-15-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM (Post 327876)
To what end?

To flatten the rate of infection so the healthcare system isn’t overwhelmed.


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map 03-15-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gillygirl (Post 327866)
It most definitely is an airborne virus.


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No it is not airborne. It is contracted from droplets that fall on surfaces, including being coughed or sneezed on. This is different from just breathing in the air around you and contracting a virus.

Major 03-15-2020 11:05 AM

Went to the Homestead last night with friends. Place was crowded. Great meal by the way. Veal Oscar.

Went to Mass this morning and meeting friends at Canoe for lunch.

I plan on living life as usual. At least until our government says I can’t.


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Biggd 03-15-2020 11:14 AM

I really don't care if it's air born or not. You can't be cautious enough and who is to say that everyone is taking the same precautions as I am.
If we didn't take these precautions we could end up like Italy so it's not unreasonable for the news media to get the word out.
The only way you can prevent panic is not to release information and that's worse. It eventually comes out with even worse results.
We don't want to be like China and only give out information that they want us to hear.

joey2665 03-15-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327886)
Went to the Homestead last night with friends. Place was crowded. Great meal by the way. Veal Oscar.

Went to Mass this morning and meeting friends at Canoe for lunch.

I plan on living life as usual. At least until our government says I can’t.


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Wow awesome!! There are others with some sense of sanity. [emoji4]


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Garcia 03-15-2020 11:22 AM

Airborne or not
 
For those of you interested in a scientific explanation of whether or not the virus is airborne, this was a good explanation, https://www.wired.com/story/they-say...-borne-by-air/.

I hope all the fears and concerns are unfounded. My best guess is that ultimately those who feel all the precautions were necessary will end up saying “see, I told you so. These actions minimized the outbreak”. Those who think they are unnecessary will say, “see, I told you so. The outbreak was not the end of the world and the majority escaped unscathed.”

I’m not concerned for myself or my kids. I am concerned for my parents who are high risk. Because of my concern for them, I am taking steps to minimize my exposure so I don’t pass along the virus to them. And, I am discouraging them from being in public places where they might be exposed. Am I being too careful? Maybe, but for their sake I would rather be safe than sorry.

Biggd 03-15-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327886)
At least until our government says I can’t.


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That may happen very soon now if the voluntary distancing is ignored. So enjoy your time out now.

Biggd 03-15-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia (Post 327889)
For those of you interested in a scientific explanation of whether or not the virus is airborne, this was a good explanation, https://www.wired.com/story/they-say...-borne-by-air/.

I hope all the fears and concerns are unfounded. My best guess is that ultimately those who feel all the precautions were necessary will end up saying “see, I told you so. These actions minimized the outbreak”. Those who think they are unnecessary will say, “see, I told you so. The outbreak was not the end of the world and the majority escaped unscathed.”

I’m not concerned for myself or my kids. I am concerned for my parents who are high risk. Because of my concern for them, I am taking steps to minimize my exposure so I don’t pass along the virus to them. And, I am discouraging them from being in public places where they might be exposed. Am I being too careful? Maybe, but for their sake I would rather be safe than sorry.

I'm going to be 66 in a few months. I'm not completely isolating myself but I am trying to avoid crowded areas. As you get older it takes a lot longer to get over illnesses. I get a flue shot every year because if I get the flue I'm down and miserable for at least two weeks. So if I can take precautions to prevent me from getting sick and being miserable for two weeks it's worth it, along with the additional benefit of not passing it along to others.

joey2665 03-15-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 327891)
I'm going to be 66 in a few months. I'm not completely isolating myself but I am trying to avoid crowded areas. As you get older it takes a lot longer to get over illnesses. I get a flue shot every year because if I get the flue I'm down and miserable for at least two weeks. So if I can take precautions to prevent me from getting sick and being miserable for two weeks it's worth it, along with the additional benefit of not passing it along to others.

Exactly what I mean when I say be vigilant. Know you’re own situation and act accordingly


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thinkxingu 03-15-2020 01:47 PM

NH just closed schools until April 3rd.

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joey2665 03-15-2020 01:58 PM

New York til Monday March 30th


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gillygirl 03-15-2020 02:05 PM

What is everyone doing?
 
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Originally Posted by map (Post 327884)
No it is not airborne. It is contracted from droplets that fall on surfaces, including being coughed or sneezed on. This is different from just breathing in the air around you and contracting a virus.


Guess there’s debate among the infectious disease community that is causing the confusion with regards to the airborne nomenclature.

https://www.wired.com/story/they-say...-borne-by-air/

For me, this snippet from the CDC makes clear that you can catch it through the air and not just by touching a surface that it’s landed on.

“The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nsmission.html


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Biggd 03-15-2020 02:15 PM

In and around the Boston area it's like they reactivated the blue laws. Everything is closed today.

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Major 03-15-2020 03:39 PM

Wife and I just booked a week in Florida for the end of the month. $160 for two round trip tickets! Staying at our favorite hotel in Pompano Beach for $125 per night. There is a bright side to the Chinese coronavirus!


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Wolfe-man 03-15-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by steve-on-mark (Post 327847)
None in the store...maybe in desperation people are using THOSE as tp substitutes!

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That may be the highest and best use for a Twinkie!

ApS 03-15-2020 04:54 PM

About Florida...
 
Florida's Governor has requested that domestic US travel be reduced.

https://www-clickorlando-com.cdn.amp...us-concerns%2F

Three Florida deaths, 115 infected, 25 new cases. Remember, the virus travels exponentially, so those exposed already will send it to many others.

Quote:

"The Transportation Safety Administration said Saturday that a TSA employee based at Orlando International Airport tested positive for COVID-19."
Covid 19 survives on surfaces; only three hours on copper, days on fiberglass, cardboard, glass and plastic.

Sunlight's rays kill the virus, as well as other UV sources. Vitamin D is very helpful.

Expect this virus to hang around into summer, and will continue to mutate. (Which actually makes it weaker).

Susie Cougar 03-15-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327906)
Wife and I just booked a week in Florida for the end of the month. $160 for two round trip tickets! Staying at our favorite hotel in Pompano Beach for $125 per night. There is a bright side to the Chinese coronavirus!


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Fort Lauderdale and Miami have just closed their beaches starting immediately and in effect until April 12. Bars and restaurants are asked to only be at 50% capacity.
Things are evolving quickly down here.
I don’t think there’ll be very much for you to do when you get here.

Major 03-15-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Susie Cougar (Post 327912)
Fort Lauderdale and Miami have just closed their beaches starting immediately and in effect until April 12. Bars and restaurants are asked to only be at 50% capacity.

Things are evolving quickly down here.

I don’t think there’ll be very much for you to do when you get here.

One can only hope, right?


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Biggd 03-15-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327906)
Wife and I just booked a week in Florida for the end of the month. $160 for two round trip tickets! Staying at our favorite hotel in Pompano Beach for $125 per night. There is a bright side to the Chinese coronavirus!


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I guess if you want to consider your financial gain as a "bright side" to this pandemic, that's one sick way of looking at it.

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Givemethewholeclam 03-15-2020 06:11 PM

Going out
 
Husb & I went to Lincoln for breakfast. Place was packed. I refuse to live in fear.

fatlazyless 03-15-2020 06:11 PM

..... March 16-29: Meredith Community Center is closed!
 
Got an email from the Meredith Community Center today, Sunday, that it will be closed and locked from tomorrow, March 16 through March 29, so that means no indoor pickleball on Tuesday and Friday, from 9-11. All events, programs, and drop-ins are cancelled through March 29.

The one exception is the Select Board meeting on Monday, March 16 will be held as usual.

www.meredithnh.org

As you may know, the four Moultonborough tennis courts are ready to play; nets up, no snow, winter debris cleaned; so who wants to play pickleball or tennis on Tuesday and Friday from 9-11 until March 29, outdoors in Moultonborough? Be there, or be a square!

So, what's the difference between indoor pickleballs and outdoor pickleballs? Outdoor pickleballs have much smaller holes for less wind resistance.

And, what's the difference between indoor tennis balls and outdoor tennis balls?

Major 03-15-2020 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 327916)
I guess if you want to consider your financial gain as a "bright side" to this pandemic, that's one sick way of looking at it.

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My conscience is clear. Although I highly doubt I am nearly as virtuous as you!


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Biggd 03-15-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327920)
My conscience is clear. Although I highly doubt I am nearly as virtuous as you!


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We finally agree on something. [emoji3]

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The Real BigGuy 03-15-2020 07:05 PM

From reading posts here and on other sites it appears that a lot of folks don’t seem to understand that they can be infected and contagious and have no symptoms. If they have come in contact with the virus and, because they are not feeling sick, they go out into the general population they risk infecting others. Kind of like sending a kid with a cold to school and getting the whole class sick. To me, that’s just plain irresponsible.


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Major 03-15-2020 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 327922)
From reading posts here and on other sites it appears that a lot of folks don’t seem to understand that they can be infected and contagious and have no symptoms. If they have come in contact with the virus and, because they are not feeling sick, they go out into the general population they risk infecting others. Kind of like sending a kid with a cold to school and getting the whole class sick. To me, that’s just plain irresponsible.


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I’m sorry, but I’m going to carry on just like I have with the other pandemic episodes the past twenty or so years, especially the much worse H1N1 virus of 2009. 1500 Americans died before we even recognized it.


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joey2665 03-15-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327923)
I’m sorry, but I’m going to carry on just like I have with the other pandemic episodes the past twenty or so years, especially the much worse H1N1 virus of 2009. 1500 Americans died before we even recognized it.


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Wow I cannot believe you are being criticized for taking off to Florida. I would think you are smart. Isn’t this virus supposed to be less likely to spread in warmer climates above 80 degrees?

Also why is this different from people coming to the lake because there is no work and school.

Be vigilant and do your thing. [emoji1303][emoji1303]


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Major 03-15-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 327924)
Wow I cannot believe you are being criticized for taking off to Florida. I would think you are smart. Isn’t this virus supposed to be less likely to spread in warmer climates above 80 degrees?

Also why is this different from people coming to the lake because there is no work and school.

Be vigilant and do your thing. [emoji1303][emoji1303]


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I know. I appreciate your support. I bet they would be super pissed at me if they knew that I bought a $32,000 Ford Explorer during the cash for clunkers debacle for $23,000! Thank God the Smugs don’t know about that exploitation!


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Biggd 03-15-2020 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 327924)
Wow I cannot believe you are being criticized for taking off to Florida. I would think you are smart. Isn’t this virus supposed to be less likely to spread in warmer climates above 80 degrees?

Also why is this different from people coming to the lake because there is no work and school.

Be vigilant and do your thing. [emoji1303][emoji1303]


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I personally don't care where he travels too but coming on here bragging about him saving money as a "bright side" to this is beyond smug. There is no "bright side" to this virus. But reading most of his posts I expect nothing less.

steve-on-mark 03-15-2020 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfe-man (Post 327908)
That may be the highest and best use for a Twinkie!

softer than corncobs or old leaves! :)

Bear Islander 03-15-2020 08:02 PM

Today I cleaned the attic. Tomorrow the basement.

Last night we watched a great old Bette Davis, Jimmy Cagney movie "The Bride Came COD" 80 years old and the jokes still work.

Major 03-15-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 327927)
I personally don't care where he travels too but coming on here bragging about him saving money as a "bright side" to this is beyond smug. There is no "bright side" to this virus. But reading most of his posts I expect nothing less.

You can choose to shutter in place. I will choose to live my life. As far as I know the same deals are available to everyone.


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Givemethewholeclam 03-15-2020 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327932)
You can choose to shutter in place. I will choose to live my life. As far as I know the same deals are available to everyone.


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I agree. I shouldn't have lived this long, so every day is gift. I won't waste a day!

joey2665 03-15-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 327927)
I personally don't care where he travels too but coming on here bragging about him saving money as a "bright side" to this is beyond smug. There is no "bright side" to this virus. But reading most of his posts I expect nothing less.

Really? Lighten up. Yes to some this is serious due to risk factors to others it isn’t. Be vigilant in your own way. I do not take offense to anything Major said.


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AB_Monterey 03-15-2020 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 327923)
I’m sorry, but I’m going to carry on just like I have with the other pandemic episodes the past twenty or so years, especially the much worse H1N1 virus of 2009. 1500 Americans died before we even recognized it.


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No. They knew what it was when the first patient was diagnosed. Work on a vaccine started 6 days later.

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-timeline.html

Garcia 03-15-2020 10:10 PM

Things just got really interesting here in MA. No gatherings of more than 25 people and no on-site patronizing of restaurants and taverns.

joey2665 03-15-2020 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia (Post 327939)
Things just got really interesting here in MA. No gatherings of more than 25 people and no on-site patronizing of restaurants and taverns.

Going to financially destroy the small businesses and their families. I put this under the category of over compensation.


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winterh 03-15-2020 10:54 PM

I don't claim to have any idea what the proper response to this is or if the whole thing is being blown out of proportion. I do worry that we are not as concerned as we should be about what this will do to the economy. A month or two of people sitting in their house will mean a severe recession and that will end up costing a lot of lives as well. Business destroyed and life savings lost will result in suicides, stress induced heart attacks, divorces..... Plunging government revenues will mean less money for other needs. (Maybe not as govt will just keep printing more) There are tradeoffs in everything. We lose tens of thousands of people a year in car accidents. We could end all of those deaths with a 10 MPH speed limit. We do not because the trade off has been judged to be not worth it.
If anything good comes from this it will be that in the end maybe people will understand that China is not our friend.
Also watching Trump in the last press conference was the first time I have seen him look exhausted. This must be taking quite a toll on him. I hope he gets some rest. He almost looked as out of it as Joe Biden on any day.

Mr. V 03-15-2020 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by winterh (Post 327942)
Also watching Trump in the last press conference was the first time I have seen him look exhausted. This must be taking quite a toll on him. I hope he gets some rest. He almost looked as out of it as Joe Biden on any day.

Damn it man, why must this issue be politicized?

Biggd 03-16-2020 08:27 AM

In times like this I think it's important to think about others before yourself. I know that's not a normal practice for some but this is more important now than ever before.
To say **** it, "I'm going to go on living my life as if nothing is wrong" is a pretty selfish response, IMO. This is not a drill, this is real.


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