Link Big Winni with little Winni

CrownRay · 04-14-2011, 03:24 PM

How come the big lake has never been connected to Winnisquam? Seems like it could be simpl.

Too big an operation to do??

Jonas Pilot · 04-14-2011, 03:31 PM

It was connected thousands of years ago.

brk-lnt · 04-14-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownRay

How come the big lake has never been connected to Winnisquam? Seems like it could be simpl.

Too big an operation to do??

How would you deal with the elevation change?

Woodsy · 04-15-2011, 07:50 AM

It would require a whole lot of dredging and installation of a set of locks.... not very economically feasible... not to mention the enviro impact.

Woodsy

Kamper · 04-15-2011, 02:30 PM

I think that was one of the schemes considerred in the 1800's to link Portsmouth and/or Boston to Lake Champlain. That was not ecomomically feasable, especially since the railroads were getting into development.

I think the same factors would have applied to a local inter-lake hook-up also. Cheaper to put stuff on the train from anywhere on Winnipisaukee than tranship it to Winnisquam and transfer to train anyway.

birchhaven · 04-15-2011, 03:12 PM

It is a fun idea to think about.

It would change the face of Downtown Laconia, and for the better, how neat of an area would that become.

As far as the environment is concerned in the end it would be no different than the dams that are there now. The largest hurdle besides funding would be the NHDES, EPA, and the Army Corp Engineers, and 99% of the hurdles would be construction related sedimentation controls.

Fun to dream thoooo...

Happy Gourmand · 04-15-2011, 04:01 PM

And, there is the issue of a few very low bridges.....

SteveA · 04-15-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Gourmand

And, there is the issue of a few very low bridges.....

Maybe some bridges would bring in more tourists.. like this one I saw this past week in Willimantic, CT... I literally couldn't wait to get to my hotel that night to get online and figure out what was up with this bridge. Pretty cool!

http://www.kurumi.com/roads/ct/br-frog.html

trfour · 04-15-2011, 08:03 PM

Hey Steve, that is a fine bridge!... For some,
Say, if you didn't read your owners manual, forgot to check your oil and your BMW's engine seized up on that bridge?... Oh, the headaches just got worse if your car quit!... They would run a cable around them spools and tow you off so's to let the rest have free passage!

Only kidding, of course.

Terry
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Lake Fan · 04-15-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveA

Maybe some bridges would bring in more tourists.. like this one I saw this past week in Willimantic, CT... I literally couldn't wait to get to my hotel that night to get online and figure out what was up with this bridge. Pretty cool!

http://www.kurumi.com/roads/ct/br-frog.html

Come by around Christmas time and the frogs are all wearing big red scarves!

We don't live too far from that bridge - it's always fun to bring out of town visitors over there for a look-see.

tis · 04-16-2011, 07:22 AM

There was talk in the 50s and 60s of a bridge across the lake. The most popular idea as I recall and I may be wrong was Tuftonboro to Cow Is. and somehow across from there. Can you imagine trying to get the permits today for a bridge like that???? Would never happen!

John A. Birdsall · 04-16-2011, 08:37 AM

My dad once told me that they had a plan to build lockes from greenbay to Alton Bay and you would have access to the ocean. If I recall he told me that about the same time they brought the Winni Bell from Portsmouth to Alton Bay. Just think of the cost of that. And apparently someone other than the gov't did for they did not build it!

hazelnut · 04-16-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

There was talk in the 50s and 60s of a bridge across the lake. The most popular idea as I recall and I may be wrong was Tuftonboro to Cow Is. and somehow across from there. Can you imagine trying to get the permits today for a bridge like that???? Would never happen!

Tis true tis.

Yes there were plans to link Tuftonboro Neck to Cow, Cow to Devens Devens to Little Bear and Little Bear to Long Island. How different would that be huh? So from Tuftonboro you'd have been able to cut off the drive all the way up Moultonboro through downtown. Interesting to think about.

tis · 04-16-2011, 12:10 PM

Thanks for filling me in on the rest of it, Hazelnut I couldn't remember any more after Cow! It sure would have saved time crossing the lake!!

04-14-2011, 03:24 PM	#1
CrownRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Medford MA/Blackcat Island Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Link Big Winni with little Winni How come the big lake has never been connected to Winnisquam? Seems like it could be simpl. Too big an operation to do?? __________________ "The ocean (or lake) itself is not dangerous, it's the hard stuff around the edges that will kill you."

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Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	It was! It was connected thousands of years ago.

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Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	It would require a whole lot of dredging and installation of a set of locks.... not very economically feasible... not to mention the enviro impact. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

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birchhaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 132 Thanks: 14 Thanked 54 Times in 30 Posts	fun to think about It is a fun idea to think about. It would change the face of Downtown Laconia, and for the better, how neat of an area would that become. As far as the environment is concerned in the end it would be no different than the dams that are there now. The largest hurdle besides funding would be the NHDES, EPA, and the Army Corp Engineers, and 99% of the hurdles would be construction related sedimentation controls. Fun to dream thoooo...

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Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	link And, there is the issue of a few very low bridges.....

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Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,307 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	I think that was one of the schemes considerred in the 1800's to link Portsmouth and/or Boston to Lake Champlain. That was not ecomomically feasable, especially since the railroads were getting into development. I think the same factors would have applied to a local inter-lake hook-up also. Cheaper to put stuff on the train from anywhere on Winnipisaukee than tranship it to Winnisquam and transfer to train anyway.

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trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Could Be A Toll Bridge As Well... Hey Steve, that is a fine bridge!... For some, Say, if you didn't read your owners manual, forgot to check your oil and your BMW's engine seized up on that bridge?... Oh, the headaches just got worse if your car quit!... They would run a cable around them spools and tow you off so's to let the rest have free passage! Only kidding, of course. Terry _______________________________ __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

04-16-2011, 07:22 AM	#11
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,749 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,459 Times in 1,016 Posts	There was talk in the 50s and 60s of a bridge across the lake. The most popular idea as I recall and I may be wrong was Tuftonboro to Cow Is. and somehow across from there. Can you imagine trying to get the permits today for a bridge like that???? Would never happen!

04-16-2011, 08:37 AM	#12
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	lockes My dad once told me that they had a plan to build lockes from greenbay to Alton Bay and you would have access to the ocean. If I recall he told me that about the same time they brought the Winni Bell from Portsmouth to Alton Bay. Just think of the cost of that. And apparently someone other than the gov't did for they did not build it!

04-16-2011, 12:10 PM	#14
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,749 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,459 Times in 1,016 Posts	Thanks for filling me in on the rest of it, Hazelnut I couldn't remember any more after Cow! It sure would have saved time crossing the lake!!