Canoe in Center Harbor

jetlag100 · 08-12-2017, 06:28 PM

Late this afternoon I called Canoe to make a reservation and was told we're not taking reservations ...Oh, I said, OK. Are you busy right now? I was told they were not busy..Oh, good. We're coming right down...this was at 4:45pm...we were there by 5:00...Walked in, and was told that we could be seated, but we would have to eat fast...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Never again.. thoughts please!

thinkxingu · 08-12-2017, 06:39 PM

Happened to us--table was reserved, but they said if we didn't mind eating quickly they could fit us in.

I'm glad when reservations don't mean waiting when we arrive, so we appreciate restaurants like this.

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Loub52 · 08-12-2017, 06:58 PM

Canoe routinely serves large parties, but their food, service and cocktails are routinely good, so we don't mind navigating around the reservation policy.

kawishiwi · 08-12-2017, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jetlag100

Late this afternoon I called Canoe to make a reservation and was told we're not taking reservations ...Oh, I said, OK. Are you busy right now? I was told they were not busy..Oh, good. We're coming right down...this was at 4:45pm...we were there by 5:00...Walked in, and was told that we could be seated, but we would have to eat fast...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Never again.. thoughts please!

I would not accept that at a fast food joint let alone at a restaurant like Canoe. If you like that, keep going, if not, skip it.

Hillcountry · 08-12-2017, 07:11 PM

I'm not one to linger much over a plate full of something I love....but being asked to eat fast is a bit over the line, I think...
Then again, one could ask "what do you consider fast"?
Might be an hour (which would be fine) or 20 minutes, which would be unacceptable.

thinkxingu · 08-12-2017, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry

I'm not one to linger much over a plate full of something I love....but being asked to eat fast is a bit over the line, I think...
Then again, one could ask "what do you consider fast"?
Might be an hour (which would be fine) or 20 minutes, which would be unacceptable.

The time it happened to us, we had just about 50 minutes--given that we had the kiddos, it was more than enough.

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lavecchi · 08-12-2017, 07:34 PM

I made a reservation for 8, six weeks in advance when I made the reservation I told the girl that answered the phone that I need to eat upstairs due ro the fact that my 80 year old father in -law just had his knee replaced, and she said " no problem , but call the day before to remind us "

Fast forward six weeks I called the day before and two hours before the reservation and they said no problem. We arrived fifteen minutes early and I remind the girl at the front and she said "I KNOW" so a half hour go by and a bachelorette party of 8 was seated up stairs, and then I was called and the rude hostess grabbed the eight menus and headed for the stairs, and I said we can't do the stairs and she told me sorry that's all we have !!

Stay away the owner doesn't treat his customers like he should, he bought into the woods head before it burnt to the ground, maybe because it was his main competitor ???

DesertDweller · 08-12-2017, 07:57 PM

We have run into your scenario a couple of times at the Canoe with reservations/fitting us in. Yes, it bugs me but it is one of the most consistent restaurants in the area so we deal with it.

lavecchi · 08-12-2017, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertDweller

We have run into your scenario a couple of times at the Canoe with reservations/fitting us in. Yes, it bugs me but it is one of the most consistent restaurants in the area so we deal with it.

If everyone that has issues with the restaurant stopped going, they would realize they need to change !

FlyingScot · 08-12-2017, 08:47 PM

In one way or another, we've had mediocre or worse service at all our regular places this year. My take is that the labor market is really tight. Not sure if it's fewer immigrants, fewer students, a strong economy or all of the above.

The thing that's separated good meals from bad for us is mostly our level of patience at the time.

Serenity now

RTTOOL · 08-13-2017, 05:52 AM

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In one way or another, we've had mediocre or worse service at all our regular places this year. My take is that the labor market is really tight. Not sure if it's fewer immigrants, fewer students, a strong economy or all of the above.

The thing that's separated good meals from bad for us is mostly our level of patience at the time.

Serenity now

It's not just this year with the CANOE this is been going on for years . maybe
they should just have take out only.

Doobs41378 · 08-13-2017, 06:21 AM

We went once a few years ago, there was not a soul in the place and they told us they could seat us around 8. This was around 4:45 mind you. Perhaps they had every table filled for 5 o'clock, just weird to not have 1 customer in there and them tell you they cannot seat you. We have not been back since.

MikeF-NH · 08-13-2017, 06:59 AM

I've eaten at the Canoe maybe a dozen time and never had a problem with rudeness or seating. I found the staff friendly and outgoing and the food excellent.

If I was ever told to "eat fast" at any restaraunt I would say "of course" and then just eat at my own pace. If they pushed me to leave I would begin negotiating the bill. Frankly, it usually takes longer for the food to arrive than for me to eat it so I would tell them to talk to the kitchen if they needed more speed.

joey2665 · 08-13-2017, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeF-NH

I've eaten at the Canoe maybe a dozen time and never had a problem with rudeness or seating. I found the staff friendly and outgoing and the food excellent.

If I was ever told to "eat fast" at any restaraunt I would say "of course" and then just eat at my own pace. If they pushed me to leave I would begin negotiating the bill. Frankly, it usually takes longer for the food to arrive than for me to eat it so I would tell them to talk to the kitchen if they needed more speed.

I also have been there a dozen or so times and of course had to wait but never told to eat fast. Food and service always excellent

WINNOCTURN · 08-13-2017, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertDweller

We have run into your scenario a couple of times at the Canoe with reservations/fitting us in. Yes, it bugs me but it is one of the most consistent restaurants in the area so we deal with it.

And the Village Kitchen is very CONSISTANT! In 20+ years I have never had a bad 2 Egg Cheese Omelet.

Only if it were Checkers Harbor again! That was good dinning!

Ride & Dive · 08-13-2017, 08:11 AM

I went in last night and asked to seat 6 at 5pm. They asked if there were any children and I said "yes a 6 year old" they said they had nothing until 9pm for me. Pretty insulting.

Clearly it was about my child and not about availability.

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joey2665 · 08-13-2017, 01:50 PM

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I went in last night and asked to seat 6 at 5pm. They asked if there were any children and I said "yes a 6 year old" they said they had nothing until 9pm for me. Pretty insulting.

Clearly it was about my child and not about availability.

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The reason for this is if you are dining with children they seat you downstairs upstairs except for the small bar area is adult only. I have two children been going there for many years and I completely understand this policy. Nothing wrong with separation when an all adult table is out without the kids trying to escape for a few hours and not having to deal with kids.

JanN · 08-13-2017, 08:22 AM

When I see stories like this from a number of people, I am amazed to see the parking lot packed with cars most of the time.

We went to Canoe a couple of times and didn't particularly care for the food or the atmosphere, but understood that a lot of people did. However, if I called any restaurant and they told me they had openings and when I arrived told me to eat fast I would be out the door and would never return!

There are a number of good choices in the area that don't treat customers in the way a number of people on this Forum have been treated at Canoe.

Newbiesaukee · 08-13-2017, 09:24 AM

Canoe has some of the best food and menu variety in the area. And I want to like it. BUT...from their" no child left behind ( or in front )" policy of 10 years ago to their reservation inconsistencies at present, there seems to be an attitudinal problem. This has been my personal experience on many occasions. On the other hand, we have had good service and experiences.

Of course, I could choose not to go there, but Oh that calamari. But I would not take a guest there because of the inconsistency and I would recommend only with a warning comment.

Clearly, there is ambivalence on the Forum; but there clearly ARE some problems. Judging from the full parking lot, Canoe probably doesn't really care.

elbie · 08-13-2017, 09:47 AM

WE were up in the area and had planned on going to Canoe but found a couple of other places that we enjoyed so never made it there. Looks like we missed out on a potentially annoying situation.

tbonies · 08-13-2017, 09:53 AM

How about... If you don't like Canoe's business model, then just go somewhere else. That way, you don't need to spend time complaining. It is interesting that you were "offended" yet still ate there..

jeffk · 08-13-2017, 11:24 AM

Quite a mixed bag of complaints. Some, I agree, are lousy attitude by Canoe like the original problem posted. Others, like a Family area for kids and asking if people are willing to eat fast, I find reasonable. If I dropped in and they told me I had 50 minutes, I could easily enjoy a meal in that time, as long as they served me promptly. I would appreciate being offered the choice rather than just being turned away. As to kids, all parents think their kids are little darlings but many are not and even the best kid can have a bad day. When I am paying for an expensive meal, it is really annoying to have a whining, screaming, bouncing kid near me. Canoe tries to create spaces where kids can be kids and adults can enjoy their meals without irritation. I think that is a decent approach.

I clearly see room for improvement. Perhaps reservations for the family area would be helpful. Certainly respecting clearly stated mobility restrictions is needed.

We enjoy the food so we continue to go several times a year. As noted, the parking lot is full so many others obviously do as well and either work around or tolerate issues.

baygo · 08-13-2017, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffk

Quite a mixed bag of complaints. Some, I agree, are lousy attitude by Canoe like the original problem posted. Others, like a Family area for kids and asking if people are willing to eat fast, I find reasonable. If I dropped in and they told me I had 50 minutes, I could easily enjoy a meal in that time, as long as they served me promptly. I would appreciate being offered the choice rather than just being turned away. As to kids, all parents think their kids are little darlings but many are not and even the best kid can have a bad day. When I am paying for an expensive meal, it is really annoying to have a whining, screaming, bouncing kid near me. Canoe tries to create spaces where kids can be kids and adults can enjoy their meals without irritation. I think that is a decent approach.

I clearly see room for improvement. Perhaps reservations for the family area would be helpful. Certainly respecting clearly stated mobility restrictions is needed.

We enjoy the food so we continue to go several times a year. As noted, the parking lot is full so many others obviously do as well and either work around or tolerate issues.

I'm not sure if this is the case at canoe but in some restaurants there are sections that New Hampshire state law prohibits children under the age of 21 from sitting in.

Newbiesaukee · 08-13-2017, 03:11 PM

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I'm not sure if this is the case at canoe but in some restaurants there are sections that New Hampshire state law prohibits children under the age of 21 from sitting in.

This is not the problem here. In fact, I recall from an older thread, parents were unhappy when the only place they were seated with their children was at the bar.

As long as it is not illegal, Canoe can have whatever seating policy it wishes and then patrons can decide whether this is the restaurant for them. The problem with Canoe is the lack of consistency about policy and a kind of crapshoot as to how you are treated.

Resident 2B · 08-13-2017, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

This is not the problem here. In fact, I recall from an older thread, parents were unhappy when the only place they were seated with their children was at the bar.

As long as it is not illegal, Canoe can have whatever seating policy it wishes and then patrons can decide whether this is the restaurant for them. The problem with Canoe is the lack of consistency about policy and a kind of crapshoot as to how you are treated.

That was a post from me.

We had reservations and four children older teens through single digits. That was roughly 12 years ago. They sat our party of 6 at a hightop cocktail table, maybe 24" in diameter right next to the bar with a group of vocal men using "bar language". At that time their policy was they do not sit children in the main dining room. Fine with me, but a 24" diameter table right next to the bar is not a suitable place for children, nor is it suitable for a dinner for six people. That was it for us until a few weeks ago when without children, we gave it another try.

Having just had some surgical work done on one of my knees, we asked for and waited for a table that we could get to without stairs. We waited 75 minutes. People that arrived well after us were seated in the area without the need for stairs. I was told they had reservations, but I had also been told you needed six or more for reservations and these were parties of 2 and 4.

After 75 minutes, I asked how much longer and was rudely told that my bad knee was not their problem and unless I could use the stairs, she had no idea how much longer it would be.

Needless to say we left and had a nice dinner, albeit late, at Lavina's. I am also looking into potential action against Canoe under the federal ADA. We used a cell phone to record two of these conversations.

We are done with Canoe.

R2B

Not to Worry · 08-14-2017, 05:01 AM

The only reason I will ever dine at Canoe is if we are out with friends who insist otherwise I flat out refuse to give money to any place that has the attitude Canoe demonstrates over and over again. True the food is good but good is not excellent and even if it were excellent it would not be worthy of my restaurants dollars.

When I see the parking lot packed with cars I can only scratch my head and wonder how the owner gets away with it. Why change when people are clamoring to get in? Amazing.

Biggd · 08-14-2017, 06:32 AM

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The only reason I will ever dine at Canoe is if we are out with friends who insist otherwise I flat out refuse to give money to any place that has the attitude Canoe demonstrates over and over again. True the food is good but good is not excellent and even if it were excellent it would not be worthy of my restaurants dollars.

When I see the parking lot packed with cars I can only scratch my head and wonder how the owner gets away with it. Why change when people are clamoring to get in? Amazing.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't get it! I've been there 4 times and I have not been impressed by the food, the attitude of the employees, or their policies. I'm always willing to give a restaurant a few tries but after 4 times i'm done with that place and will never go back.

boat_guy64 · 08-14-2017, 09:17 PM

I was there on Saturday with a group of friends. Food was excellent. Service was good. I've been there many times. Never a bad meal although I have had some poor service once or twice. I know how hard it is to staff a restaurant with the economy in the lake region the past few years so I never judge a place by one or two bad servers. It is just the law of averages with such a large influx of new employees in the summer.

Not to Worry · 08-15-2017, 07:27 AM

The issues at Canoe are not one or two bad servers. The attitude that has been there from day one. The problems that come from that attitude comes from the top down. How does Canoe survive? Simple there are no real competitors in Center Harbor. If there were Canoe would not survive or they would have a real quick attitude change.

BTW if you are staying at a motel/hotel etc., reservations are accepted if the "concierge" calls them in. So much for Canoe caring about their regulars.

surfnsnow · 08-15-2017, 04:34 PM

funny that canoe and O in lakeport are owned by the same company but the atmosphere couldn't be more different. we gave up on canoe some time back . we will sure keep going to O. best béarnaise sauce north of Manchester

ishoot308 · 08-15-2017, 05:37 PM

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funny that canoe and O in lakeport are owned by the same company but the atmosphere couldn't be more different. we gave up on canoe some time back . we will sure keep going to O. best béarnaise sauce north of Manchester

Have to agree with you 100%. We love O's also!

Dan

joey2665 · 08-15-2017, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by surfnsnow

funny that canoe and O in lakeport are owned by the same company but the atmosphere couldn't be more different. we gave up on canoe some time back . we will sure keep going to O. best béarnaise sauce north of Manchester

I love both. Very different atmosphere. Actually at Canoe right now and had an awesome veal chop and the calamari and pot sticker apps. My daughter had braised short ribs which also were excellent with a bacon risotto There current reservations policy is any size party before 6:30 after 6:30 it is 6 or more.

WINNOCTURN · 08-15-2017, 07:19 PM

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I love both. Very different atmosphere. Actually at Canoe right now and had an awesome veal chop and the calamari and pot sticker apps. My daughter had braised short ribs which also were excellent with a bacon risotto There current reservations policy is any size party before 6:30 after 6:30 it is 6 or more.

WHAT IF YOUR ARE DISABLED or RECOVERING from Surgery?

Do "THEY" force you to go down the "STAIRS"

joey2665 · 08-15-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WINNOCTURN

WHAT IF YOUR ARE DISABLED or RECOVERING from Surgery?

Do "THEY" force you to go down the "STAIRS"

I really do not understand your question and how it relates to my post. I am sure if you call ahead for a reservation and you need to be upstairs the can accommodate.
If you don't like the restaurant it is certainly your propagative. I am just posting my experience today and what I was told their reservation policy is at least through the summer season

Winnigirl · 08-17-2017, 03:24 PM

We go every summer with a large group and have never had a bad experience. The food and service have been consistently great. Shout out to our most recent server Lily who was awesome!

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thinkxingu · 08-21-2017, 04:21 PM

Still don't get it--just finishing at Canoe, and everyone at the table is overly satisfied. Servers were all great, and our waitress worked her magic for both my kids' meals. Look at this burger with pulled pork and crispy onion strings with sweet potato fries for $12--haven't had a better burger in the Lakes Region!

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joey2665 · 08-21-2017, 06:35 PM

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Still don't get it--just finishing at Canoe, and everyone at the table is overly satisfied. Servers were all great, and our waitress worked her magic for both my kids' meals. Look at this burger with pulled pork and crispy onion strings with sweet potato fries for $12--haven't had a better burger in the Lakes Region!

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I absolutely agree. As I stated prior I have never had a bad meal or for that matter all my meals have been excellent especially my veal chop special last week.

winniplayhouse · 08-22-2017, 08:09 AM

We've also only had good meals. Usually go with kids too and have never been treated poorly nor have I witnessed anyone being treated poorly with, or without, kids. Food has always been great for us.

BernerGuy · 08-23-2017, 02:54 PM

Absolutely love Canoe. Went there last night and had a great meal and great service. Tried to go Monday night and were told it was 45 minute wait. We did not have the time and went to Lemon Grass and had an awesome meal and great service. Lots of competition in the area. The fact that they are still around and busy speaks for itself. Having owned and operated a restaurant for 10 years, I get the reservation problems. We took reservarions for every time slot and every size party and got bad feedback for doing that. Restaurants cannot please everyone. I am happy that Canoe is here and uf all of you stop going I can have it all to myself.

Biggd · 08-24-2017, 06:04 AM

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Absolutely love Canoe. Went there last night and had a great meal and great service. Tried to go Monday night and were told it was 45 minute wait. We did not have the time and went to Lemon Grass and had an awesome meal and great service. Lots of competition in the area. The fact that they are still around and busy speaks for itself. Having owned and operated a restaurant for 10 years, I get the reservation problems. We took reservarions for every time slot and every size party and got bad feedback for doing that. Restaurants cannot please everyone. I am happy that Canoe is here and uf all of you stop going I can have it all to myself.

You won't get any competition from me. I guess you have to be a regular for the hostess to be nice to you.

BernerGuy · 08-25-2017, 04:35 PM

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You won't get any competition from me. I guess you have to be a regular for the hostess to be nice to you.

Never said the hostess was nice to me or host for that matter, but the hostess is not the one cooking my food or taking my drink order. They bring me to my seat and I never have to see them again. I understand too well a good host can make a restaurant and a bad hostess can ruin one, but life is too short for me to let that person ruin my evening.

lavecchi · 08-26-2017, 03:54 AM

That's why I will never go back and I will tell everybody I know not to wast there shot life and have a bad experience

BroadHopper · 08-26-2017, 05:52 AM

Off Season. Like almost all restaurants in area. Seems like the restaurants summer hires falls apart under the constant pressure of the tourists, That is why I don't go out during the tourist season!

Greene's Basin Girl · 08-26-2017, 11:58 AM

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Off Season. Like almost all restaurants in area. Seems like the restaurants summer hires falls apart under the constant pressure of the tourists, That is why I don't go out during the tourist season!

I went to Canoe this past winter. There were two parties in the dining room and we were one of them. The server was extremely slow and the server just kept standing around. It was not good service and thus it was not enjoyable! On the other hand 15 of us had a meeting at O's this past Thursday. The service and the food was great!

lavecchi · 08-26-2017, 02:48 PM

I will say I never had anything but great food, but the service summer / winter always has been horrible

Biggd · 08-27-2017, 07:45 AM

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I will say I never had anything but great food, but the service summer / winter always has been horrible

I can forgive rude and bad service once, maybe even twice, but after that I don't care how good the food is. The whole experience is important.

sledneck · 09-05-2017, 09:46 PM

So I decided what the hell, I'll try the canoe. What an absolute mistake. The food was so BLAND and everyone's posts here was true. What an attitude on the hostess, the service was horrible and the drinks were aweful. I should have just kept paddling. Definitely won't be back.

rsmlp · 09-06-2017, 06:26 AM

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So I decided what the hell, I'll try the canoe. What an absolute mistake. The food was so BLAND and everyone's posts here was true. What an attitude on the hostess, the service was horrible and the drinks were aweful. I should have just kept paddling. Definitely won't be back.

I think we can all agree that service right now is wanting-everywhere. Canoe has never been my favorite. I prefer Lavinia's and New Woodshed is damn good-although I haven't been in a few weeks.

Biggd · 09-06-2017, 06:48 AM

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So I decided what the hell, I'll try the canoe. What an absolute mistake. The food was so BLAND and everyone's posts here was true. What an attitude on the hostess, the service was horrible and the drinks were aweful. I should have just kept paddling. Definitely won't be back.

The hostess is your first impression and if the hostess is rude then things go downhill from there. Almost every time I've been to Canoe my first impression has not been pleasant.

joey2665 · 09-06-2017, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sledneck

So I decided what the hell, I'll try the canoe. What an absolute mistake. The food was so BLAND and everyone's posts here was true. What an attitude on the hostess, the service was horrible and the drinks were aweful. I should have just kept paddling. Definitely won't be back.

There are several posters here that actually like Canoe. Myself included and also evidenced by how crowded it can be especially during the season and on weekends. As mentioned above I do love the new Woodshed also, but I would compare the more to "O" than Canoe in terms of menu choices

HellRaZoR004 · 09-06-2017, 09:26 AM

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There are several posters here that actually like Canoe. Myself included and also evidenced by how crowded it can be especially during the season and on weekends. As mentioned above I do love the new Woodshed also, but I would compare the more to "O" than Canoe in terms of menu choices

Perhaps the crowded feel is from the lack of parking, so every time you drive by you get the impression they are packed

Do employees park elsewhere?

joey2665 · 09-06-2017, 09:56 AM

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Perhaps the crowded feel is from the lack of parking, so every time you drive by you get the impression they are packed

Do employees park elsewhere?

Not referring to the parking lot, I am strictly speaking about inside the restaurant. I have dined there at least 15 times and unless you go extremely early it is always crowded so they must be doing something right.

Biggd · 09-07-2017, 02:33 PM

You must have a personal connection to this establishment. You seem to take offense to the negative reviews and thank people giving good reviews?

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joey2665 · 09-07-2017, 03:17 PM

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You must have a personal connection to this establishment. You seem to take offense to the negative reviews and thank people giving good reviews?

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No I do not, I like the place and I have no issues with negative reviews (you dont like the establishment its fine with me) but every time I make a positive post or a post opposing you, you always quote my post. You have done the same is other posts, go bother some else

ishoot308 · 09-07-2017, 03:19 PM

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No I do not, I like the place and I have no issues with negative reviews (you dont like the establishment its fine with me) but every time I make a positive post or a post opposing you, you always quote my post. You have done the same is other posts, go bother some else

You guys should really take it offline....Maybe meet at Canoe for a beer to discuss!!

Dan

joey2665 · 09-07-2017, 03:20 PM

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You guys should really take it offline....Maybe meet at Canoe for a beer to discuss!!

Dan

Excellent Dan love it, very very funny!!!!!!

Mr. V · 09-07-2017, 07:02 PM

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You guys should really take it offline....Maybe meet at Canoe for a beer to discuss!!

Nah, they should "settle it" in the Octagon.

thinkxingu · 09-30-2017, 06:25 PM

Just leaving Canoe--Saturday the 30th at 7:22--and, yet again, we were thrilled with our experience. Service was a bit slow--it seemed everyone came in at the same time--but the serving staff and food were equally awesome. That burger with pulled pork and onion strings with sweet potato fries and a Shirley Temple is OFF THE HOOK!

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Hillcountry · 10-01-2017, 09:18 PM

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Just leaving Canoe--Saturday the 30th at 7:22--and, yet again, we were thrilled with our experience. Service was a bit slow--it seemed everyone came in at the same time--but the serving staff and food were equally awesome. That burger with pulled pork and onion strings with sweet potato fries and a Shirley Temple is OFF THE HOOK!

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Is that "Shirley Temple" as in ginger ale and cherry juice or is there an adult libation of the same name? Just wondering...

thinkxingu · 10-02-2017, 04:18 AM

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Is that "Shirley Temple" as in ginger ale and cherry juice or is there an adult libation of the same name? Just wondering...

Modern Shirley Temples have Sprite and Grenadine. I've always ever known it as a "mocktail."

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Barney Bear · 10-02-2017, 06:12 AM

We older geezers know that non-alcoholic concoction as a Shirley Temple, named for the famous child actor of the 1930's. 🍒

joey2665 · 10-02-2017, 06:37 AM

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We older geezers know that non-alcoholic concoction as a Shirley Temple, named for the famous child actor of the 1930's. 🍒

In later years she was also a UN Ambassador

noreast · 10-02-2017, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Is that "Shirley Temple" as in ginger ale and cherry juice or is there an adult libation of the same name? Just wondering...

That would be a "Burly Temple".

ishoot308 · 10-02-2017, 02:07 PM

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Is that "Shirley Temple" as in ginger ale and cherry juice or is there an adult libation of the same name? Just wondering...

I believe when you add Vodka it's called a "Dirty Shirley"...

Dan

patman · 03-13-2018, 07:10 AM

There's a bunch of storage in the parking lot, and a banner over the sign saying "Getting a facelift, see you in April"

Remodel underway apparently...

joey2665 · 03-13-2018, 07:12 AM

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There's a bunch of storage in the parking lot, and a banner over the sign saying "Getting a facelift, see you in April"

Remodel underway apparently...

If you go onto their Facebook page you can see pictures.

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08-12-2017, 06:28 PM	#1
jetlag100 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Revere, Massachusetts and Moultonborough, N.H. Posts: 311 Thanks: 228 Thanked 79 Times in 50 Posts	Canoe in Center Harbor Late this afternoon I called Canoe to make a reservation and was told we're not taking reservations ...Oh, I said, OK. Are you busy right now? I was told they were not busy..Oh, good. We're coming right down...this was at 4:45pm...we were there by 5:00...Walked in, and was told that we could be seated, but we would have to eat fast...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Never again.. thoughts please!

08-12-2017, 06:58 PM	#3
Loub52 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Meredith, NH Posts: 220 Thanks: 212 Thanked 52 Times in 42 Posts	Canoe routinely serves large parties, but their food, service and cocktails are routinely good, so we don't mind navigating around the reservation policy. __________________ Thanks, Loub52

08-12-2017, 07:34 PM	#7
lavecchi Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Never again I made a reservation for 8, six weeks in advance when I made the reservation I told the girl that answered the phone that I need to eat upstairs due ro the fact that my 80 year old father in -law just had his knee replaced, and she said " no problem , but call the day before to remind us " Fast forward six weeks I called the day before and two hours before the reservation and they said no problem. We arrived fifteen minutes early and I remind the girl at the front and she said "I KNOW" so a half hour go by and a bachelorette party of 8 was seated up stairs, and then I was called and the rude hostess grabbed the eight menus and headed for the stairs, and I said we can't do the stairs and she told me sorry that's all we have !! Stay away the owner doesn't treat his customers like he should, he bought into the woods head before it burnt to the ground, maybe because it was his main competitor ???

08-12-2017, 08:47 PM	#10
FlyingScot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA Posts: 2,327 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 987 Times in 608 Posts	Good help is hard to find In one way or another, we've had mediocre or worse service at all our regular places this year. My take is that the labor market is really tight. Not sure if it's fewer immigrants, fewer students, a strong economy or all of the above. The thing that's separated good meals from bad for us is mostly our level of patience at the time. Serenity now

08-13-2017, 08:11 AM	#16
Ride & Dive Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 56 Thanks: 41 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Canoe in Center Harbor I went in last night and asked to seat 6 at 5pm. They asked if there were any children and I said "yes a 6 year old" they said they had nothing until 9pm for me. Pretty insulting. Clearly it was about my child and not about availability. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

08-12-2017, 06:39 PM	#2
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,153 Thanks: 1,161 Thanked 2,034 Times in 1,258 Posts	Happened to us--table was reserved, but they said if we didn't mind eating quickly they could fit us in. I'm glad when reservations don't mean waiting when we arrive, so we appreciate restaurants like this. Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk

08-12-2017, 07:11 PM	#5
Hillcountry Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: In the hills Posts: 2,419 Thanks: 1,677 Thanked 786 Times in 466 Posts	I'm not one to linger much over a plate full of something I love....but being asked to eat fast is a bit over the line, I think... Then again, one could ask "what do you consider fast"? Might be an hour (which would be fine) or 20 minutes, which would be unacceptable.

08-12-2017, 07:57 PM	#8
DesertDweller Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Las Vegas, NV and Moultonborough, NH Posts: 363 Thanks: 24 Thanked 84 Times in 70 Posts	We have run into your scenario a couple of times at the Canoe with reservations/fitting us in. Yes, it bugs me but it is one of the most consistent restaurants in the area so we deal with it.

08-13-2017, 06:21 AM	#12
Doobs41378 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 510 Thanks: 234 Thanked 88 Times in 73 Posts	We went once a few years ago, there was not a soul in the place and they told us they could seat us around 8. This was around 4:45 mind you. Perhaps they had every table filled for 5 o'clock, just weird to not have 1 customer in there and them tell you they cannot seat you. We have not been back since.

08-13-2017, 06:59 AM	#13
MikeF-NH Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 317 Thanks: 2 Thanked 120 Times in 80 Posts	I've eaten at the Canoe maybe a dozen time and never had a problem with rudeness or seating. I found the staff friendly and outgoing and the food excellent. If I was ever told to "eat fast" at any restaraunt I would say "of course" and then just eat at my own pace. If they pushed me to leave I would begin negotiating the bill. Frankly, it usually takes longer for the food to arrive than for me to eat it so I would tell them to talk to the kitchen if they needed more speed.

08-13-2017, 08:22 AM	#18
JanN Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 43 Thanks: 174 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	Don't Understand a restaurant doing this... When I see stories like this from a number of people, I am amazed to see the parking lot packed with cars most of the time. We went to Canoe a couple of times and didn't particularly care for the food or the atmosphere, but understood that a lot of people did. However, if I called any restaurant and they told me they had openings and when I arrived told me to eat fast I would be out the door and would never return! There are a number of good choices in the area that don't treat customers in the way a number of people on this Forum have been treated at Canoe.

08-13-2017, 09:24 AM	#19
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,351 Thanks: 938 Thanked 570 Times in 296 Posts	Canoe has some of the best food and menu variety in the area. And I want to like it. BUT...from their" no child left behind ( or in front )" policy of 10 years ago to their reservation inconsistencies at present, there seems to be an attitudinal problem. This has been my personal experience on many occasions. On the other hand, we have had good service and experiences. Of course, I could choose not to go there, but Oh that calamari. But I would not take a guest there because of the inconsistency and I would recommend only with a warning comment. Clearly, there is ambivalence on the Forum; but there clearly ARE some problems. Judging from the full parking lot, Canoe probably doesn't really care. __________________ "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever."

08-13-2017, 09:47 AM	#20
elbie Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hamden, Ct. Posts: 47 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Missed Out WE were up in the area and had planned on going to Canoe but found a couple of other places that we enjoyed so never made it there. Looks like we missed out on a potentially annoying situation.

08-13-2017, 09:53 AM	#21
tbonies Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Anchorage, Al Posts: 144 Thanks: 57 Thanked 66 Times in 33 Posts	How about... If you don't like Canoe's business model, then just go somewhere else. That way, you don't need to spend time complaining. It is interesting that you were "offended" yet still ate there..

08-13-2017, 11:24 AM	#22
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,154 Thanks: 205 Thanked 428 Times in 246 Posts	Quite a mixed bag of complaints. Some, I agree, are lousy attitude by Canoe like the original problem posted. Others, like a Family area for kids and asking if people are willing to eat fast, I find reasonable. If I dropped in and they told me I had 50 minutes, I could easily enjoy a meal in that time, as long as they served me promptly. I would appreciate being offered the choice rather than just being turned away. As to kids, all parents think their kids are little darlings but many are not and even the best kid can have a bad day. When I am paying for an expensive meal, it is really annoying to have a whining, screaming, bouncing kid near me. Canoe tries to create spaces where kids can be kids and adults can enjoy their meals without irritation. I think that is a decent approach. I clearly see room for improvement. Perhaps reservations for the family area would be helpful. Certainly respecting clearly stated mobility restrictions is needed. We enjoy the food so we continue to go several times a year. As noted, the parking lot is full so many others obviously do as well and either work around or tolerate issues.

08-14-2017, 05:01 AM	#26
Not to Worry Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 191 Thanks: 93 Thanked 84 Times in 55 Posts	Not a fan The only reason I will ever dine at Canoe is if we are out with friends who insist otherwise I flat out refuse to give money to any place that has the attitude Canoe demonstrates over and over again. True the food is good but good is not excellent and even if it were excellent it would not be worthy of my restaurants dollars. When I see the parking lot packed with cars I can only scratch my head and wonder how the owner gets away with it. Why change when people are clamoring to get in? Amazing.

08-14-2017, 09:17 PM	#28
boat_guy64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Windham and Meredith Posts: 225 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 33 Thanked 89 Times in 42 Posts	Canoe I was there on Saturday with a group of friends. Food was excellent. Service was good. I've been there many times. Never a bad meal although I have had some poor service once or twice. I know how hard it is to staff a restaurant with the economy in the lake region the past few years so I never judge a place by one or two bad servers. It is just the law of averages with such a large influx of new employees in the summer.

08-15-2017, 07:27 AM	#29
Not to Worry Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 191 Thanks: 93 Thanked 84 Times in 55 Posts	One or Two? The issues at Canoe are not one or two bad servers. The attitude that has been there from day one. The problems that come from that attitude comes from the top down. How does Canoe survive? Simple there are no real competitors in Center Harbor. If there were Canoe would not survive or they would have a real quick attitude change. BTW if you are staying at a motel/hotel etc., reservations are accepted if the "concierge" calls them in. So much for Canoe caring about their regulars.

08-15-2017, 04:34 PM	#30
surfnsnow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 173 Thanks: 133 Thanked 52 Times in 29 Posts	funny that canoe and O in lakeport are owned by the same company but the atmosphere couldn't be more different. we gave up on canoe some time back . we will sure keep going to O. best béarnaise sauce north of Manchester

08-17-2017, 03:24 PM	#35
Winnigirl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 67 Thanks: 271 Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts	We go every summer with a large group and have never had a bad experience. The food and service have been consistently great. Shout out to our most recent server Lily who was awesome! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

08-21-2017, 04:21 PM	#36
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,153 Thanks: 1,161 Thanked 2,034 Times in 1,258 Posts	Still don't get it--just finishing at Canoe, and everyone at the table is overly satisfied. Servers were all great, and our waitress worked her magic for both my kids' meals. Look at this burger with pulled pork and crispy onion strings with sweet potato fries for $12--haven't had a better burger in the Lakes Region! Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk

08-22-2017, 08:09 AM	#38
winniplayhouse Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 205 Thanks: 32 Thanked 58 Times in 41 Posts	We've also only had good meals. Usually go with kids too and have never been treated poorly nor have I witnessed anyone being treated poorly with, or without, kids. Food has always been great for us.

08-23-2017, 02:54 PM	#39
BernerGuy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 68 Thanks: 17 Thanked 44 Times in 15 Posts	Love Canoe Absolutely love Canoe. Went there last night and had a great meal and great service. Tried to go Monday night and were told it was 45 minute wait. We did not have the time and went to Lemon Grass and had an awesome meal and great service. Lots of competition in the area. The fact that they are still around and busy speaks for itself. Having owned and operated a restaurant for 10 years, I get the reservation problems. We took reservarions for every time slot and every size party and got bad feedback for doing that. Restaurants cannot please everyone. I am happy that Canoe is here and uf all of you stop going I can have it all to myself.

08-26-2017, 03:54 AM	#42
lavecchi Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Agreed somewhat That's why I will never go back and I will tell everybody I know not to wast there shot life and have a bad experience

08-26-2017, 05:52 AM	#43
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,560 Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 1,097 Times in 790 Posts	Excellent Restuarant Off Season. Like almost all restaurants in area. Seems like the restaurants summer hires falls apart under the constant pressure of the tourists, That is why I don't go out during the tourist season! __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-26-2017, 02:48 PM	#45
lavecchi Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great food I will say I never had anything but great food, but the service summer / winter always has been horrible

09-05-2017, 09:46 PM	#47
sledneck Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	So I decided what the hell, I'll try the canoe. What an absolute mistake. The food was so BLAND and everyone's posts here was true. What an attitude on the hostess, the service was horrible and the drinks were aweful. I should have just kept paddling. Definitely won't be back.

09-07-2017, 02:33 PM	#53
Biggd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH Posts: 3,981 Thanks: 2,139 Thanked 1,154 Times in 732 Posts	You must have a personal connection to this establishment. You seem to take offense to the negative reviews and thank people giving good reviews? Sent from my SM-G920V using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

09-30-2017, 06:25 PM	#58
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,153 Thanks: 1,161 Thanked 2,034 Times in 1,258 Posts	Just leaving Canoe--Saturday the 30th at 7:22--and, yet again, we were thrilled with our experience. Service was a bit slow--it seemed everyone came in at the same time--but the serving staff and food were equally awesome. That burger with pulled pork and onion strings with sweet potato fries and a Shirley Temple is OFF THE HOOK! Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk

10-02-2017, 06:12 AM	#61
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts	Mocktail 🍹 We older geezers know that non-alcoholic concoction as a Shirley Temple, named for the famous child actor of the 1930's. 🍒

03-13-2018, 07:10 AM	#65
patman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NH Posts: 379 Thanks: 56 Thanked 156 Times in 78 Posts	There's a bunch of storage in the parking lot, and a banner over the sign saying "Getting a facelift, see you in April" Remodel underway apparently...