a SIGN of things to come.... Braun Bay

[Woodsy]

Got this from a buddy of mine yesterday! Kinda sad really!

Woodsy

[caloway]

I'm marginally ok with them placing a sign. But geez, you'd think they could put the thing in professionally!

[knowit]

They felt the need to ruin a beautiful landscape by the erecting of a billboard in the middle of the sandbar? Who could be so stupid to allow this?

What's next? A traffic signal in the Weirs Channel?

I am just glad I rememeber this lake before we needed all these rules to protect us from ourselves.

[VtSteve]

I am just glad I rememeber this lake before we needed all these rules to protect us from ourselves.

The very same feeling I had. We have several islands owned by the public that can be used for camping, both rustic, and some with full campsites and facilities. Many places to travel to and raft, enjoy the entire lake. There's the occasional problem with locals not wanting any marina expansion, a town beach that was opened up to land traffic, and the usual boaters versus non-boater issues developed, but it was rectified and all can cohabitate there now.

Winni is a publicly owned lake that many want managed as a private association. A well-managed public treasure doesn't have to be none of this and none of that.

[birchhaven]

I hope the got a wetlands permit for that!

[sa meredith]

Is this sign indeed in Braun Bay, or a photo of a sign from another lake...as in, "this is what we are in for, eventually."

If it is in Braun Bay, whose 11 year old kids did they hire to install it?

[jrc]

Wow,

I hope it's a hoax, by that I mean placed by someone other than the MP

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by jrc

Wow,

I hope it's a hoax, by that I mean placed by someone other than the MP

I doubt this is a hoax, I was over there Moday, and saw the MP work barge and the RIB over in that area.... I was wondering what they were up too..... I didn't go over to investigate as I had young children aboard and didn't want to risk an altercation.....
I guess now I know........

[sa meredith]

So......they stuck a metal sign in the lake, which is bad enough, but decided to mount it off center, leaning to one side, and use two supports of unequal length??!!

[knowit]

Originally Posted by sa meredith

So......they stuck a metal sign in the lake, which is bad enough, but decided to mount it off center, leaning to one side, and use to supports of unequal length??!!

Marine Patrol did it , remember. We are not talking skilled engineers here. College kids on break.

[NoRegrets]

It is certainly a great place for appealing graffiti.

[VtSteve]

It's a sad commentary on the state of the lake I think. A tremendous amount of anchored boats here are larger sailboats or cruisers, many that have dinghies so they can go to the beach, the city, whatever. On any given weekend, there are many go fasts, bowriders, large cruisers, whatever, rafting or beached or at anchor in many a different bay. In the old days we'd say (nicely) that someone needs to get l@!d or get the pole out of their @ $E.

God only knows what the powers that be will get annoyed at next.

[4Fun]

That sign would look killer in my game room

[Rinkerfam]

That sign would explain why Patrician Shores became a little uncomfortable Sun. afternoon. We stopped going to Braun Bay a few years back. I am all for live and let live, so don't blast me for this, but Braun Bay and Patrician Shores have historically attracted different boating demographics.

[knowit]

Where exactly is Patrician Shores. I was going to go over there after hitting Braun Bay last week but I could not find it on the Bizer. I really wanted to see it.

[VtSteve]

I remember Patrician Shores from way back when. Not bad prices from what I see. How's the tap water there now? It's not too far up from Meredith on the way to Center Harbor. My cousin years and years ago attended the seminary up near there. Nice location.

[WeirsBeachBoater]

This is sad.

[Seeker]

Why do they have a right to put an ugly sign like that in OUR (the residents of NH) lake? I think it just plain sux. Have them put it on one of the complaining property owners' land if it's even legal.

[BroadHopper]

When I was told twice by the MP to leave because I was too close too the neighboring boats. I was there first and it's the other boats that came too close to me! After telling the MPO that, I still had to leave. I don't know why they singled me out. I only have a 22' boat with grandkids.

[Rinkerfam]

I was talking about the shallow sandy area that actually lies between Patrician Shores and Farrar Point. I wasn't actually talking about the property at Patrician Shores. Sorry for the confusion.

[Taz]

I am confused. Isn't rafting in Braun Bay already banned? The legal definition of a raft in NH is 3 or more boats isn't? Unless she wants to ban 2 boats tied together. Then you would have to define RAFT in Braun Bay differently than other areas of the lake that ban rafting as you can tie 2 boats together in areas that ban rafting.

If thats the intent of the bill, to ban tieing 2 boats together, I don't see what that will accomplish. The bay will still be filled with anchored boats on warm sunny weekends. What will change?

[NoRegrets]

You are correct. It is a no rafting area. I think the next law will try to create a no anchor zone! OCDACTIVE is absolutely correct in his postings. How sad for people to spend their lives trying to rule others.

[Skipper of the Sea Que]

Originally Posted by Taz

I am confused. Isn't rafting in Braun Bay already banned? The legal definition of a raft in NH is 3 or more boats isn't? Unless she wants to ban 2 boats tied together. Then you would have to define RAFT in Braun Bay differently than other areas of the lake that ban rafting as you can tie 2 boats together in areas that ban rafting.

Yep, the rules and labels are confusing. Rafting is TWO or MORE boats tied together. Here on Lake Winnipesaukee, the No Rafting Zones (NRZs) really mean RESTRICTED rafting zones. In those NRZs rafting is restricted to no more than TWO boats together.

The sign shown in Woodsy's thread starter says Rafting Restrictions. The first bulleted item on that sign says: No more than two boats per raft.

So, a No Rafting Zone on Winnie actually means rafting Restricted to no more than 2 boats per raft. You may also note that other NRZ restrictions may vary from zone to zone - such as distance from shore.

I am not in favor of banning all rafts in Braun Bay or anywhere else on the Lake. I don't see how this proposal would benefit the citizens of NH.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Another name on the list of people to vote out when they are up for re-election. This is going to be fun!

[lawn psycho]

Can someone clue me in? Who is the "aggrevied" party in this? Is it one or two homeowners? Is there a behavior that needs to be curtailed from people or is it realistically their mere presence that people are working to get rid of?

I do believe that people should be respectful of people's property, however, I fail to see the difference between boats "rafting" or 200 single boats all anchored in a given area.

If loud music is an issue, have that enforced. Trash, trespassing, are the issue then have MP enforce those laws. If someone is doing the aforementioned behavior, bans imposed on rafting are going to have ZERO impact on changing that persons behavior.

Personally, when I have watched people throw their cigarettes in the water right next to their own boat in the sand bar area, now THAT should be loss of lake privileges for LIFE!