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Old 09-08-2011, 12:41 PM   #1
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The "runs very hot" contest is getting very old. I understood what Bkr-Int meant when he said the present LEDs run very hot. This is an issue for the long term reliability and could possibly be a safety issue as these "bulbs" incorporate plastics in their design as opposed to an incandescent bulb that is made mainly from glass and metal. It's important to remember that even at 20 watts, that amount of power concentrated in a small area can produce high temperatures. Designers can work to keep those temperatures away from skin, but it can still be an issue as I mentioned above.


Personally I am livid about incandescent bulbs being forcibly removed from shelves at the end of this year. I don't like the light from CFLs and haven't seen an LED light I've liked yet. The federal government is granted a very specific range of powers in the constitution and deciding which type of light bulb we should buy is not one of them. Our freedoms are slowly being taken from us........
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:55 PM   #2
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The "runs very hot" contest is getting very old. I understood what Bkr-Int meant when he said the present LEDs run very hot. This is an issue for the long term reliability and could possibly be a safety issue as these "bulbs" incorporate plastics in their design as opposed to an incandescent bulb that is made mainly from glass and metal. It's important to remember that even at 20 watts, that amount of power concentrated in a small area can produce high temperatures. Designers can work to keep those temperatures away from skin, but it can still be an issue as I mentioned above.
Thank you; that explanation makes sense.

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Personally I am livid about incandescent bulbs being forcibly removed from shelves at the end of this year. I don't like the light from CFLs and haven't seen an LED light I've liked yet. The federal government is granted a very specific range of powers in the constitution and deciding which type of light bulb we should buy is not one of them. Our freedoms are slowly being taken from us........
You don't want to get into a debate about interpreting the Constitution, do you? (The Commerce Clause, the Necessary and Proper Clause, etc.)

Just kidding. This is neither the time nor the place.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:43 PM   #3
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You don't want to get into a debate about interpreting the Constitution, do you? (The Commerce Clause, the Necessary and Proper Clause, etc.)

Just kidding. This is neither the time nor the place.


You're right, this is neither the time nor the place...... but regulation of commerce between states should never have evolved into banning lightbulbs or anything else for that matter by the federal government. There are very clear remedies in the constitution for Federal government run amok, it is up to us, the citizens of this country, to see to it our elected officials respect us and those remedies. Due to apathy, indifference and acquiescence we have allowed DC to get away with too much and our economy and citizens are paying the price. Time to wake up.
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All these bulbs are reviewed and assessed in this months Consumer Reports magazine.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:58 AM   #5
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Anybody out there have any experience with LED night lights?
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Yes, that is a perfect application for LEDs.

We have a sensor model:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_141426-53058...ght&facetInfo=

The 3 LED light is fine but the motion sensor on this specific model is a little touchy, too many false turn-on events but that is not a fault of the LEDs.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:39 AM   #7
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Thanks Slick, Do you know how many watts they burn? I couldn't find it in that link. All the night lights I have, and it's a bunch, burn a 4 w. I have used 7 w and they threw a lot of light but burned out quickly. Using nite lites is an important safety tool.
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Thanks Slick, Do you know how many watts they burn? I couldn't find it in that link. All the night lights I have, and it's a bunch, burn a 4 w. I have used 7 w and they threw a lot of light but burned out quickly. Using nite lites is an important safety tool.
The packaging is gone but the back of the device says 0.3W and it gives out a good amount of light.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:39 AM   #9
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LED night lights and book lights are great.

CFLs are great for inside applications without dimmers. Unfortunately, looking up at my kitchen ceiling, we have 10 flood lights in cans on dimmers!

LEDs will take over at some point. I have several clients that are looking at LED lighting. My take so far is that you need to get all of your lights switched to LED or the "color of light" differences will drive you nuts.

BRK, have you tested security cameras with LED lighting yet? I have not, but it is on my agenda!
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Old 12-18-2011, 01:13 PM   #10
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Read today that the Feds pushed the light bulb extintion (that they passed in 2007) back from 1/2012 to 1/2013. Don't know how much longer the big box stores will keep those classic bulbs will be around.....
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