Lakeport Landing business

[meredith weekender]

Lakeport Landing (Erica) had her chance to put in her best and final bid. She chose to keep her bid amount the same. Irwin outbid Lakeport and therefore they won the bid. End of story, DONE.

[Resident 2B]

How can anyone running a business not understand the open bidding process? Even worse, how does she continue to carry on like she was fooled? Unbelievable in my opinion. If the bidding is re-opened because Erica did not understand what was happening and then she wins, why would Irwin not bring a costly lawsuit against the City of Laconia?

When you are in the game, you learn the rules before you play the game. Ignorance of the rules is not something you complain about after you lose.

R2B

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Resident 2B

How can anyone running a business not understand the open bidding process? Even worse, how does she continue to carry on like she was fooled? Unbelievable in my opinion. If the bidding is re-opened because Erica did not understand what was happening and then she wins, why would Irwin not bring a costly lawsuit against the City of Laconia?

When you are in the game, you learn the rules before you play the game. Ignorance of the rules is not something you complain about after you lose.

R2B

R2B

I wouldn't worry too much about the bidding process being reopened after Blizzard called out the councilmen in the newspaper. Any chance of a second look at the matter went out the window when she chastised the councilmen publicly.

[fatlazyless]

Well ..... in a few days or so ... time will tell what happens with a possible re-consideration. As already mentioned, the vote to accept the higher offer was 4-2, so's it is probably safe to assume the two will vote yes to a re-consideration, and then it would require just ONE of the four votes to switch for a 3-3 vote. At that point, am not sure what the protocol is..... does a tie 3-3 vote then go to the mayor to decide in case of a tie vote?

And, then the bids would be higher, with more money for the city, so's the city would most likely get a higher price if a re-consideration is the outcome ..... that would make a bigger income .... for the City .... more money, more money, more money....ka-ching, ka-chang, ka-ching ... for the City!

[Lakeboater]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Well ..... in a few days or so ... time will tell what happens with a possible re-consideration. As already mentioned, the vote to accept the higher offer was 4-2, so's it is probably safe to assume the two will vote yes to a re-consideration, and then it would require just ONE of the four votes to switch for a 3-3 vote. At that point, am not sure what the protocol is..... does a tie 3-3 vote then go to the mayor to decide in case of a tie vote?

And, then the bids would be higher, with more money for the city, so's the city would most likely get a higher price if a re-consideration is the outcome ..... that would make a bigger income .... for the City .... more money, more money, more money....ka-ching, ka-chang, ka-ching ... for the City!

I believe that the reconsideration vote has to come from 2 of the councilman that were in favor of the sale to Irwin not the 2 that opposed the sale.

[fatlazyless]

http://www.laconiadailysun.com/index...er-marina-vote


.... and here's hope'n that this link actually works! Say-hey....it actually works....am I good....or am I good......I am the greatest! ...ugh!

.....now, back to figuring out what the h is going on with Lakeport Landing and Irwin's as they duke it out for a long narrow .81 acre of land, owned by the City of Laconia, that is apparently very dear to both of them!

[Patiently Watching]

What a waste of time and money...

If this property were really important to her, she would have bid accordingly.

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

http://www.laconiadailysun.com/index...er-marina-vote


.... and here's hope'n that this link actually works! Say-hey....it actually works....am I good....or am I good......I am the greatest! ...ugh!

.....now, back to figuring out what the h is going on with Lakeport Landing and Irwin's as they duke it out for a long narrow .81 acre of land, owned by the City of Laconia, that is apparently very dear to both of them!

Thanks FLL. Blizzard was surprised that the city voted to sell to Irwin? What part of "submit your highest and best offer" did she not understand? Irwin won fair and square. Further, Laconia could use these funds for any of a number of good causes such as reinvestment in the Weirs, etc. I will be dumfounded if their original decision is reversed.

[BroadHopper]

Irwin's was well aware Blizzard bid, so they bid higher. I'm surprised Blizzard did not counter offer unless Irwin bid was at the last minute and Blizzard did not have a chance to for a counter offer. I've seen this before in other bids around the country. Certainly not fair but like everything else it is a game played within the rules.

[Resident 2B]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Irwin's was well aware Blizzard bid, so they bid higher. I'm surprised Blizzard did not counter offer unless Irwin bid was at the last minute and Blizzard did not have a chance to for a counter offer. I've seen this before in other bids around the country. Certainly not fair but like everything else it is a game played within the rules.

Aren't these sealed bids due in hand on a date and time made public to all? If so, there is no counter bidding.

This was a re-bid, so going into it, both parties knew what the other bid on the first round in which both bids were rejected by Laconia as being unacceptably low. That, in itself, told both parties to bring their bids up. Irwin increased their bid, but Blizzard did not.

R2B

[Patiently Watching]

Should have put her best foot forward - no surprise who the other bidder would be and their potential motivation.

Once again, she gambled and big. Nothing new...

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Patiently Watching

Should have put her best foot forward - no surprise who the other bidder would be and their potential motivation.

Once again, she gambled and big. Nothing new...

And likely she will lose big, AGAIN.

[Broken Glass]

It takes a lot of balls to survive in business these days. It takes no balls at all to sit back and criticize someone that you admittedly don't even know. This thread has turned into a disturbing bunch of comments, from people that get big balls behind their keyboard, but really have no balls at all....

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Broken Glass

It takes a lot of balls to survive in business these days. It takes no balls at all to sit back and criticize someone that you admittedly don't even know. This thread has turned into a disturbing bunch of comments, from people that get big balls behind their keyboard, but really have no balls at all....

It has been covered over and over again. The rules were set in place, Erica didn't listen to what the city was asking for, didn't pony up and lost out. She is crying over spilt milk.

Irwin played by the rules and had bigger ones than she had.

I am a business owner in a market that takes a serious pair to be competitive in. Lots of personal financial risk involved and the reward isn't what it used to be, so I do take exception to your comment of being without balls, hiding behind a keyboard....I am sure others on this thread are not just keyboard jockeys with nothing more to do than sit around and be judgmental as well.

Many of us do know the players involved. Irwin has been a long standing name in the lakes region, maybe more so than Blizzard.

[Descant]

If posters want to keep repeating nothing new, this thread should be moved to the "Issues:" pages.

[fatlazyless]

As I understand it, there are six voting councilors and just off the top of my head, it will take two of the four councilors who voted yes to accept the Irwin-522k offer to vote yes to a re-consideration. Brenda Baer, and Armand Bolduc support the efforts of the Lakeport Landing business probably because it has been there for 30-years in its effort to purchase their .81 acre land and buildings.

These two, Baer and Bolduc, sounded pretty adamant in their suppost for the Blizzards and Lakeport Landing, so's only time will tell if they can convince two out of the other four councilors to go along with a re-consideration ..... plus, of course....it would most likely mean the City of Laconia would receive a higher price.

Oh ye all six councilors ...... take a good deep look into your hearts and just ask yourself: What is the right thing to do here?

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

As I understand it, there are six voting councilors and just off the top of my head, it will take two of the four councilors who voted yes to accept the Irwin-522k offer to vote yes to a re-consideration. Brenda Baer, and Armand Bolduc support the efforts of the Lakeport Landing business probably because it has been there for 30-years in its effort to purchase their .81 acre land and buildings.

These two, Baer and Bolduc, sounded pretty adamant in their suppost for the Blizzards and Lakeport Landing, so's only time will tell if they can convince two out of the other four councilors to go along with a re-consideration ..... plus, of course....it would most likely mean the City of Laconia would receive a higher price.

Oh ye all six councilors ...... take a good deep look into your hearts and just ask yourself: What is the right thing to do here?

The other four wants to build a new high school off Parade Road! That's a waste of money! School enrollment been declining since the '70's. Graduating class is the smallest since the '40's. And they need a bigger school? They already spent millions in the Huot Center and the sport complex at the site and they want to move the school? I have been at odds with Baer for years and this is the first time I ever commended her.

Our tax dollars at work going down the drain...................

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Broken Glass

It takes a lot of balls to survive in business these days. It takes no balls at all to sit back and criticize someone that you admittedly don't even know. This thread has turned into a disturbing bunch of comments, from people that get big balls behind their keyboard, but really have no balls at all....

When Ms. Blizzard started pointing fingers in her editorial she opened herself up to public criticism. She obviously feels that she is entitled to preferential pricing on the asset her family has profitably leased for the past 30-years. She fails to note in her editorial that her business has earned many times the $16,666.70 in annual lease payments, taxes, building expense, etc., much of which was tax deductible, it has paid over the past 30-years. Many tax payers and forum members do not feel a substantial discount is warranted at the expense of the hard working taxpayers of Laconia. The city is under financial stress and it would be unfair to offer Blizzard preferential pricing on a valuable city asset regardless of the length of time her business has been in Laconia. The city has gone above and beyond already by extending her lease an additional 2-years to allow for a smooth transition. Hopefully, the matter will be closed once and for all in the near term. I apologize if I have offered anyone, including Ms. Blizzard, but it is best to graciously move on when things do not go one's way, especially when the playing field was level.

[Tank151]

Originally Posted by Broken Glass

It takes a lot of balls to survive in business these days. It takes no balls at all to sit back and criticize someone that you admittedly don't even know. This thread has turned into a disturbing bunch of comments, from people that get big balls behind their keyboard, but really have no balls at all....

Great remark - couldn't have said it better myself!