New Marine Patrol Building & Shibley's at The Pier

Misha888 · 01-19-2016, 11:36 PM

Well, someone is lying to you. Yes, two (I recall three) Saturday's construction was happening. I live directly across the way, I don't imagine these things. Maybe next time I will record it.

And the Friday after Thanksgiving is not a day off for many? This is why all our seasonal neighbors were up that weekend. And in the 30 years I have been in the corporate world, Friday's usually are.

Urinating into the wind here, so have a great day! And enjoy your new office.

p.s. Is that annoying blue strobe going to be a constant?

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Originally Posted by Marine Patrol

Misha888-

The Marine Patrol has only approved three days outside of a typical workweek for the project since its start. The Friday after Thanksgiving which is not a day off for many, and two Saturdays for the placement of concrete forms (no heavy construction equipment except form trucks). On two occasions heavy equipment excavators and a crane were delivered on a Saturday but no construction activity was allowed.

To the best of my knowledge, aside from water pumps running after hours, no construction activity has gone beyond allowable hours. FYI, Marine Patrol must approve construction work outside of normal hours.

The Marine Patrol and its Construction Manager, Harvey Construction, have made it clear to our neighbors, island residents, and the Town of Gilford, we intend to have as little impact on them as possible during this project. We have had regular communication with those concerned, monitored dust and debris around vehicles and boats, and maintained safe access to town property. However, from your post it sounds like we are not hearing from everyone. If you have experienced construction at night or anything beyond what was described above, I would appreciate hearing from you. 603-293-2037. Thank you!

Safe Boating!!

Tim Dunleavy
Captain-Marine Patrol

Slickcraft · 01-26-2016, 03:44 PM

The steel work has started.

Slickcraft · 02-04-2016, 03:51 PM

Starting to take shape:

Slickcraft · 03-10-2016, 04:52 PM

And soon a roof

Pineedles · 03-10-2016, 05:39 PM

Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

Acrossamerica · 03-10-2016, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

I believe that is just the winter Bob House monitoring station. The full Administration building which is six times that size will be started in a few weeks with the closing of 28A until June of 2017.

gokart-mozart · 03-14-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Acrossamerica

the closing of 28A until June of 2017.

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

Rusty · 03-14-2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gokart-mozart

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

Don't get him going, he just likes to complain about something...sorta like me but a little worse.

chipj29 · 03-15-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gokart-mozart

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

I believe he was being sarcastic.

NoBozo · 07-20-2016, 07:28 PM

Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land.

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing.

NB

ishoot308 · 07-20-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing.

NB

About 50 years of construction material and labor costs...

NoBozo · 07-20-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

About 50 years of construction material and labor costs...

I guess I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain if you can...NB

ishoot308 · 07-20-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

I guess I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain if you can...NB

NB,

You can barely buy a 2000 sq ft home on shore for a million, do you really think that a building of that size and magnitude which includes the purchase of the land and adjacent Glendale Marina is only worth 1 million? Seriously?? The purchase of the adjacent land and nearly falling down Marina building alone was way more than 1 million. The contract for the site work alone would be more than a million!

You would be lucky to build a Fotomat these days for a million...

Dan

Descant · 07-20-2016, 09:31 PM

Good response Ishoot308. You need a special structure to move boats around indoors, perhaps a pressurized paint room, mechanics shop, lifts / marine railway. Can't guess what the State Police operation will need, but I expect they'll have some functions in this building.
The bid specs are public information for anybody who cares to inquire.

Reilly · 07-21-2016, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land.

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing.

NB

approx 2 million was for the purchase of glendale marine.so approx. 9 million for that building sounds high ? but 1 million is the price of a house.

fatlazyless · 07-21-2016, 09:25 AM

The new MP building is a super-duper design for what it is, a state government home and headquarters for the MP.

What is not so nice is the helter skelter layout of the property lots in the immediate area. For this mish mash mess of 'no town planning' the reason is there were basically no ZONING rules in Gilford until approximately 1985. Zoning rules did not exist here until it was too late, and the results are there to see.

Zoning turned out to be a solution, and not a problem, except it came too late to Gilford.

NoBozo · 07-21-2016, 10:25 AM

I stand corrected. I had no idea that a marine business was bought to make more room for this complex. I assumed the property was already owned by the state or town. My Bad.

NB

codeman671 · 07-21-2016, 01:24 PM

http://laconiadailysun.com/index.php...rine-patrol-hq

This may have already been posted, but the above link gives details on the true project scope. The facility is 32k+sqft. Lots of class A office space and a complete maintenance facility with indoor crane, reconfigured drive in docking, etc.

The intangibles such as stormwater management, expanded parking, etc that one doesn't think of really jump the price as well.

Pineedles · 07-21-2016, 02:01 PM

I like the design of the building. I was wondering if there was a floor plan? Any pictures of the interior?

Just Sold · 08-13-2016, 04:01 PM

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fatlazyless · 08-13-2016, 06:26 PM

Seems like the Town of Gilford could do a better job of landscaping around the edges and over all beautifying their islander parking lot for just a little effort so's it would not be looking so shabby ...... just to keep up with their new neighbor, the MP-HQ.

HUH · 08-14-2016, 10:07 PM

All done and lit up like a holiday tree /:

Barney Bear · 08-15-2016, 07:45 PM

With two stars at the top of the tree!!! 🌲 ⭐️ 🌟

Slickcraft · 03-10-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

It will be the Marine Patrol operational HQ for the state. Also the main facility for MP boats maintenance and storage. And will have classrooms for boating certificates. Don't know if they will still have some admin down on Rt 106.

Glendale Girl · 03-10-2016, 10:04 PM

It will also be home to the State Police,

MeredithMan · 03-11-2016, 11:04 AM

When I stopped in to get the boat reg and the mooring permit a couple weeks ago, I said to the lady, "see you next year", as I was leaving. She replied, "you won't see us here...this office is closing and going to the new building"

VitaBene · 03-11-2016, 04:55 PM

Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

Slickcraft · 03-11-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

Yes that is one of the new features.

fatlazyless · 03-12-2016, 12:07 PM

Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ.

Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg!

Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town.

Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares?

TiltonBB · 03-12-2016, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ.

Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg!

Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town.

Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares?

Make sure you ride your bicycle to go register your boat so you can also save that $2 worth of gas!

TiltonBB · 03-12-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glendale Girl

It will also be home to the State Police,

The Marine Patrol officers are the State Police.

MikeM · 05-10-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickcraft

And soon a roof

is this where the pavilion was? I reciently heard the F&G tore down downings landing building. I ran the bait and canvas shop they throughout the 90s.

TiltonBB · 05-10-2016, 05:45 PM

The new building is pretty impressive!

Pine Island Guy · 05-18-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

The new building is pretty impressive!

If you judged the building by what's tied up at the docks... you'd think it was an Eastern boat dealership

This weather has been a real treat -PIG

Misha888 · 05-19-2016, 10:14 AM

Beep, Beep, Beep ... Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

Hoping they give it a freaking break for Memorial Day weekend. Yes, that includes the Friday before.

Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

TiltonBB · 05-19-2016, 04:31 PM

Beats being run over on a construction site!

ishoot308 · 05-19-2016, 04:45 PM

The building is really looking nice!! They definitely did a nice job with the design and its a nice fit for the area! Love the stonework that's going in now.

Ill try and get some pics and post them here.

Dan

Misha888 · 05-24-2016, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Beats being run over on a construction site!

How would they know if someone was yelling?

And you live next to it 5/6 days a week 8 hours a day of it constantly going off. At times there are two or three. Oh, weekends too even though they state they don't do construction then. Model neighbors, indeed.

TiltonBB · 05-24-2016, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Misha888

How would they know if someone was yelling?

And you live next to it 5/6 days a week 8 hours a day of it constantly going off. At times there are two or three. Oh, weekends too even though they state they don't do construction then. Model neighbors, indeed.

If someone is running heavy equipment or driving and backing up a truck on a construction site the back up beeper, or bell, is to warn the people working around the machines who may be in the path of the machine. Generally the view to the rear is less than optimum and the back up alarm is for the workers, not the machine operator. The alarms are required by OSHA. Heavy equipment operators have their ability to hear yelling or other verbal direction limited because of the noise generated by the machine. That is why there are standard hand signals related to the operation of loaders, cranes etc.

Flyfisha · 05-24-2016, 10:18 AM

Years ago before these safety interventions a flagger was run over and killed while the New London/Sunapee sewer pipeline project was being installed. The alarm noise is a small price to pay in order to keep construction workers safe!
I am sure anyone on the construction site would rather not hear it either!

Orion · 05-24-2016, 10:49 AM

My car beeps to me when anything gets within 8'-10' when my car is in reverse. Just put the same sensors on equipment and make the beep loud and external. That will also keep the equipment from backing into things....maybe even add a backup camera. Cheap add-ons for what is very expensive equipment. Calmer nerves, quieter construction sites, etc. etc. etc. Do I have to invent everything?

DickR · 05-24-2016, 10:53 AM

While injury to someone in the path of a machine backing up certainly is something to be avoided, I have to wonder about long-term effectiveness of those hated beepers. After a worker on the site hears that loud repetitive beeping, does he tend to tune it out and just revert to normal attentiveness to the machine and what it is doing? Also, does the machine operator tend to assume that the beeping is a guarantee that the path behind is clear and just back up at will? That would be a threat to anyone who hears the beeping but can't get out of the way quickly enough. There aren't any guarantees.

I also have to wonder about whether there might be more effective solutions than typical government-imposed, one-size-fits-all legislation. I imagine the health care insurance companies that have to cough up when someone is injured on the job would be interested. I suspect the liability insurance companies don't care much, if at all, given that meeting legal compliance with the beeper regulation lets them off the hook. Any thoughts as to might be better for all?

Edit: Orion beat me to responding by four minutes, with some good ideas.

Slickcraft · 05-26-2016, 09:12 AM

As Phantom has noted, half or more of the building is for boat maintenance and storage.

fltsimguy · 05-26-2016, 12:52 PM

Is the MP boat on the left new? Seen the big one in the middle, which seems to rarely leave the dock. Anyone know why they have the larger boats, since they seem to use them very sparingly?

PENIVISA · 05-26-2016, 01:36 PM

Any plans on a open house?

Descant · 05-26-2016, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fltsimguy

Is the MP boat on the left new? Seen the big one in the middle, which seems to rarely leave the dock. Anyone know why they have the larger boats, since they seem to use them very sparingly?

I'd compare it to the Police or Fire Dept. The ladder truck doesn't roll on every call, the tactical command center is not used for patrols. However, in today's world, there's a lot of finger pointing if you fail to "save just one life" because you wanted to save a few dollars. Bigger boat may need a two man crew, and probably burns more fuel, so less suitable for routine patrol.

Just Sold · 05-27-2016, 07:53 AM

Had lunch at Shibley's at the Pier on their new deck yesterday. New deck is great and the food top notch! Also NECN was the taking video, but not sure if we will make it into the final cut.

NoBozo · 05-19-2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Misha888

Beep, Beep, Beep ... Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

Hoping they give it a freaking break for Memorial Day weekend. Yes, that includes the Friday before.

Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

It's for the Children. Don't need no construction equipment inadvertently crushing children (on recess) under their wheels while backing up. Have a heart.

No one, complaining about the Beeps... EVER Saved a Child.

NB

ishoot308 · 05-19-2016, 07:03 PM

Here's a couple pics I just took...

ishoot308 · 05-19-2016, 07:05 PM

Here's another.....

laketrout · 05-23-2016, 12:15 PM

I am sorry. Spend, spend , spend $$ Do respect the Marine Patrol and their thankless "at times job" and all the part timers - teachers , retired folks and young folks that want to work for them.
This building looks bigger then the US Coast Station New Castle New Hampshire. I hear the State trooper just got a new barracks there too..

However Is a $10 Million building really necessary on the Lake? I guess someone pushed it through! Federal Monies and or state monies or both? Must have a nice holding pen or jail in it, education center etc.. to much just IMO.

This reminds me of my hometown of Stratham in 2006 the town voted in (close vote) a 7 million dollar fire station to this day with its 8 full double stalls front and back only 2 or 3 are occupied.

At the least the building has a water view..

Phantom · 05-23-2016, 01:02 PM

I think that $10m is short money personally when you consider this is a long overdue STATE HEADQUARTER facility. This new facility (to my understanding) will have offices, training center & classrooms for Boater Ed and other purposes, holding cell(s) as well as Statewide dispatch center in addition to servicing the entire State of NH's Marine fleet.

When you look at this facility from the water, you get a different perspective. At least half (perhaps more) of the physical size of the building is "high bay" construction for boat storage and maintenance.

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Slickcraft · 05-10-2016, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM

is this where the pavilion was? I reciently heard the F&G tore down downings landing building. I ran the bait and canvas shop they throughout the 90s.

Well Mike most of this thread has been about the new Marine Patrol building in Glendale, Gilford. Hence my comment a while ago about the new roof.

However another thread did talk about the buildings at Downings Landing being taken down. They are now gone, your old shop only a memory.
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...wnings+landing
The pavilion burned several years ago and has been rebuilt, now condos and some small shops.

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NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	This is pathetic Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land. THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing. NB

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Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,591 Thanks: 1,413 Thanked 1,703 Times in 1,107 Posts	Specialty stuff Good response Ishoot308. You need a special structure to move boats around indoors, perhaps a pressurized paint room, mechanics shop, lifts / marine railway. Can't guess what the State Police operation will need, but I expect they'll have some functions in this building. The bid specs are public information for anybody who cares to inquire.

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fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,168 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	...... local zoning rules The new MP building is a super-duper design for what it is, a state government home and headquarters for the MP. What is not so nice is the helter skelter layout of the property lots in the immediate area. For this mish mash mess of 'no town planning' the reason is there were basically no ZONING rules in Gilford until approximately 1985. Zoning rules did not exist here until it was too late, and the results are there to see. Zoning turned out to be a solution, and not a problem, except it came too late to Gilford. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

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NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I stand corrected. I had no idea that a marine business was bought to make more room for this complex. I assumed the property was already owned by the state or town. My Bad. NB

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codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,603 Thanks: 223 Thanked 856 Times in 519 Posts	http://laconiadailysun.com/index.php...rine-patrol-hq This may have already been posted, but the above link gives details on the true project scope. The facility is 32k+sqft. Lots of class A office space and a complete maintenance facility with indoor crane, reconfigured drive in docking, etc. The intangibles such as stormwater management, expanded parking, etc that one doesn't think of really jump the price as well.

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Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 1,071 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	I like the design of the building. I was wondering if there was a floor plan? Any pictures of the interior?

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fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,168 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	.... such a dumpy looking town parking lot? Seems like the Town of Gilford could do a better job of landscaping around the edges and over all beautifying their islander parking lot for just a little effort so's it would not be looking so shabby ...... just to keep up with their new neighbor, the MP-HQ. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

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fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,168 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	..... follow the money? Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ. Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg! Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town. Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

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ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,531 Thanks: 2,454 Thanked 5,465 Times in 2,142 Posts	The building is really looking nice!! They definitely did a nice job with the design and its a nice fit for the area! Love the stonework that's going in now. Ill try and get some pics and post them here. Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

05-24-2016, 10:18 AM	#41
Flyfisha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rattlesnake Island Posts: 140 Thanks: 58 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	A small price to pay Years ago before these safety interventions a flagger was run over and killed while the New London/Sunapee sewer pipeline project was being installed. The alarm noise is a small price to pay in order to keep construction workers safe! I am sure anyone on the construction site would rather not hear it either!

05-24-2016, 10:49 AM	#42
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 914 Thanks: 598 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	There's a better way My car beeps to me when anything gets within 8'-10' when my car is in reverse. Just put the same sensors on equipment and make the beep loud and external. That will also keep the equipment from backing into things....maybe even add a backup camera. Cheap add-ons for what is very expensive equipment. Calmer nerves, quieter construction sites, etc. etc. etc. Do I have to invent everything?

05-24-2016, 10:53 AM	#43
DickR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 764 Thanks: 4 Thanked 260 Times in 172 Posts	Any better solution to beepers? While injury to someone in the path of a machine backing up certainly is something to be avoided, I have to wonder about long-term effectiveness of those hated beepers. After a worker on the site hears that loud repetitive beeping, does he tend to tune it out and just revert to normal attentiveness to the machine and what it is doing? Also, does the machine operator tend to assume that the beeping is a guarantee that the path behind is clear and just back up at will? That would be a threat to anyone who hears the beeping but can't get out of the way quickly enough. There aren't any guarantees. I also have to wonder about whether there might be more effective solutions than typical government-imposed, one-size-fits-all legislation. I imagine the health care insurance companies that have to cough up when someone is injured on the job would be interested. I suspect the liability insurance companies don't care much, if at all, given that meeting legal compliance with the beeper regulation lets them off the hook. Any thoughts as to might be better for all? Edit: Orion beat me to responding by four minutes, with some good ideas.