New Marine Patrol Building & Shibley's at The Pier

Pineedles · 03-10-2016, 05:39 PM

Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

Acrossamerica · 03-10-2016, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

I believe that is just the winter Bob House monitoring station. The full Administration building which is six times that size will be started in a few weeks with the closing of 28A until June of 2017.

gokart-mozart · 03-14-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Acrossamerica

the closing of 28A until June of 2017.

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

Rusty · 03-14-2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gokart-mozart

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

Don't get him going, he just likes to complain about something...sorta like me but a little worse.

chipj29 · 03-15-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gokart-mozart

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

I believe he was being sarcastic.

NoBozo · 07-20-2016, 07:28 PM

Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land.

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing.

NB

ishoot308 · 07-20-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing.

NB

About 50 years of construction material and labor costs...

NoBozo · 07-20-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

About 50 years of construction material and labor costs...

I guess I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain if you can...NB

ishoot308 · 07-20-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

I guess I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain if you can...NB

NB,

You can barely buy a 2000 sq ft home on shore for a million, do you really think that a building of that size and magnitude which includes the purchase of the land and adjacent Glendale Marina is only worth 1 million? Seriously?? The purchase of the adjacent land and nearly falling down Marina building alone was way more than 1 million. The contract for the site work alone would be more than a million!

You would be lucky to build a Fotomat these days for a million...

Dan

Descant · 07-20-2016, 09:31 PM

Good response Ishoot308. You need a special structure to move boats around indoors, perhaps a pressurized paint room, mechanics shop, lifts / marine railway. Can't guess what the State Police operation will need, but I expect they'll have some functions in this building.
The bid specs are public information for anybody who cares to inquire.

Reilly · 07-21-2016, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land.

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing.

NB

approx 2 million was for the purchase of glendale marine.so approx. 9 million for that building sounds high ? but 1 million is the price of a house.

fatlazyless · 07-21-2016, 09:25 AM

The new MP building is a super-duper design for what it is, a state government home and headquarters for the MP.

What is not so nice is the helter skelter layout of the property lots in the immediate area. For this mish mash mess of 'no town planning' the reason is there were basically no ZONING rules in Gilford until approximately 1985. Zoning rules did not exist here until it was too late, and the results are there to see.

Zoning turned out to be a solution, and not a problem, except it came too late to Gilford.

NoBozo · 07-21-2016, 10:25 AM

I stand corrected. I had no idea that a marine business was bought to make more room for this complex. I assumed the property was already owned by the state or town. My Bad.

NB

codeman671 · 07-21-2016, 01:24 PM

http://laconiadailysun.com/index.php...rine-patrol-hq

This may have already been posted, but the above link gives details on the true project scope. The facility is 32k+sqft. Lots of class A office space and a complete maintenance facility with indoor crane, reconfigured drive in docking, etc.

The intangibles such as stormwater management, expanded parking, etc that one doesn't think of really jump the price as well.

Pineedles · 07-21-2016, 02:01 PM

I like the design of the building. I was wondering if there was a floor plan? Any pictures of the interior?

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fatlazyless · 08-13-2016, 06:26 PM

Seems like the Town of Gilford could do a better job of landscaping around the edges and over all beautifying their islander parking lot for just a little effort so's it would not be looking so shabby ...... just to keep up with their new neighbor, the MP-HQ.

HUH · 08-14-2016, 10:07 PM

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fatlazyless · 08-17-2016, 07:32 AM

And, such a deal, you save five dollars, the five dollar service fee, off the price of your boat registration, compared to what you pay at your local town hall, or local marina, when you process the paper work at this new MP-HQ.

Just park your car in a designated MP visitor parking space, walk in to their walk-in service window, and check out the new 10-million dollar building .... gimme five! ....what a deal! The new MP-HQ treats you like a champion, or something!

Who knows .....maybe they can also raise some additional revenue by selling MP refrigerator magnets, MP bumper stickers, and MP coffee mugs....like, why k-not! ..... with pictures of different patrol boats and such? ...... people could spend the five they just saved on a small oval, bumper sticker pictured, patrol launch, or a coffee mug!

And besides, purchasing an MP coffee mug or frig magnet, helps support the MP, and is a motivator to go there to register your boat.

I want a coffee mug with a picture of a MP patrol boat on it.......!!!

Superduty1 · 08-17-2016, 10:06 AM

All of New Hampshire should be proud of this new facility. With so many government dollars wasted on non-performing projects, this was a long time coming. As far as I am concerned the men and woman who protect and serve us on a daily basis are under paid and at least deserve a great facility to work in. I would be proud to show my friends who visit this state the building and the dedication New Hampshire puts into it's state! Congrats on a job well done!

noreast · 08-17-2016, 11:11 AM

I agree with the sentiment on the first responders but I do get a little queasy when a government building Is the nicest in an area. A little Stalinesque. My dumb question is, Can the public launch and park there? I assume the answer is yes. It is a spectacular building.

Slickcraft · 03-10-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

It will be the Marine Patrol operational HQ for the state. Also the main facility for MP boats maintenance and storage. And will have classrooms for boating certificates. Don't know if they will still have some admin down on Rt 106.

Glendale Girl · 03-10-2016, 10:04 PM

It will also be home to the State Police,

MeredithMan · 03-11-2016, 11:04 AM

When I stopped in to get the boat reg and the mooring permit a couple weeks ago, I said to the lady, "see you next year", as I was leaving. She replied, "you won't see us here...this office is closing and going to the new building"

VitaBene · 03-11-2016, 04:55 PM

Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

Slickcraft · 03-11-2016, 05:04 PM

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Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

Yes that is one of the new features.

fatlazyless · 03-12-2016, 12:07 PM

Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ.

Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg!

Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town.

Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares?

TiltonBB · 03-12-2016, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ.

Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg!

Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town.

Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares?

Make sure you ride your bicycle to go register your boat so you can also save that $2 worth of gas!

TiltonBB · 03-12-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glendale Girl

It will also be home to the State Police,

The Marine Patrol officers are the State Police.

07-20-2016, 07:28 PM	#6
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	This is pathetic Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land. THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing. NB

07-20-2016, 09:31 PM	#10
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,475 Thanks: 1,387 Thanked 1,667 Times in 1,086 Posts	Specialty stuff Good response Ishoot308. You need a special structure to move boats around indoors, perhaps a pressurized paint room, mechanics shop, lifts / marine railway. Can't guess what the State Police operation will need, but I expect they'll have some functions in this building. The bid specs are public information for anybody who cares to inquire.

07-21-2016, 09:25 AM	#12
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,923 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 1,056 Times in 769 Posts	...... local zoning rules The new MP building is a super-duper design for what it is, a state government home and headquarters for the MP. What is not so nice is the helter skelter layout of the property lots in the immediate area. For this mish mash mess of 'no town planning' the reason is there were basically no ZONING rules in Gilford until approximately 1985. Zoning rules did not exist here until it was too late, and the results are there to see. Zoning turned out to be a solution, and not a problem, except it came too late to Gilford. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

08-13-2016, 04:01 PM	#16
Just Sold Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Suncook, NH, but at The Lake at Heart Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 1,083 Thanked 434 Times in 210 Posts	New Photos of MP Bldg 8/13/16 __________________ Just Sold At the lake the stress of daily life just melts away. Pro Re Nata

08-13-2016, 06:26 PM	#18
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,923 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 1,056 Times in 769 Posts	.... such a dumpy looking town parking lot? Seems like the Town of Gilford could do a better job of landscaping around the edges and over all beautifying their islander parking lot for just a little effort so's it would not be looking so shabby ...... just to keep up with their new neighbor, the MP-HQ. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

03-10-2016, 05:39 PM	#1
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07-21-2016, 10:25 AM	#13
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I stand corrected. I had no idea that a marine business was bought to make more room for this complex. I assumed the property was already owned by the state or town. My Bad. NB

07-21-2016, 01:24 PM	#14
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,551 Thanks: 222 Thanked 834 Times in 504 Posts	http://laconiadailysun.com/index.php...rine-patrol-hq This may have already been posted, but the above link gives details on the true project scope. The facility is 32k+sqft. Lots of class A office space and a complete maintenance facility with indoor crane, reconfigured drive in docking, etc. The intangibles such as stormwater management, expanded parking, etc that one doesn't think of really jump the price as well.

07-21-2016, 02:01 PM	#15
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	I like the design of the building. I was wondering if there was a floor plan? Any pictures of the interior?

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fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,923 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 1,056 Times in 769 Posts	..... the five dollar window! And, such a deal, you save five dollars, the five dollar service fee, off the price of your boat registration, compared to what you pay at your local town hall, or local marina, when you process the paper work at this new MP-HQ. Just park your car in a designated MP visitor parking space, walk in to their walk-in service window, and check out the new 10-million dollar building .... gimme five! ....what a deal! The new MP-HQ treats you like a champion, or something! Who knows .....maybe they can also raise some additional revenue by selling MP refrigerator magnets, MP bumper stickers, and MP coffee mugs....like, why k-not! ..... with pictures of different patrol boats and such? ...... people could spend the five they just saved on a small oval, bumper sticker pictured, patrol launch, or a coffee mug! And besides, purchasing an MP coffee mug or frig magnet, helps support the MP, and is a motivator to go there to register your boat. I want a coffee mug with a picture of a MP patrol boat on it.......!!! __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 08-17-2016 at 11:45 AM.

08-17-2016, 10:06 AM	#23
Superduty1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Thank you All of New Hampshire should be proud of this new facility. With so many government dollars wasted on non-performing projects, this was a long time coming. As far as I am concerned the men and woman who protect and serve us on a daily basis are under paid and at least deserve a great facility to work in. I would be proud to show my friends who visit this state the building and the dedication New Hampshire puts into it's state! Congrats on a job well done!

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noreast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 648 Thanks: 316 Thanked 120 Times in 93 Posts	I agree with the sentiment on the first responders but I do get a little queasy when a government building Is the nicest in an area. A little Stalinesque. My dumb question is, Can the public launch and park there? I assume the answer is yes. It is a spectacular building.

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MeredithMan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bedford, NH; Meredith, NH Posts: 979 Thanks: 263 Thanked 823 Times in 340 Posts	Allegedly the Rte 106 office is closing... When I stopped in to get the boat reg and the mooring permit a couple weeks ago, I said to the lady, "see you next year", as I was leaving. She replied, "you won't see us here...this office is closing and going to the new building"

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VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,614 Thanks: 1,666 Thanked 1,650 Times in 853 Posts	Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

03-12-2016, 12:07 PM	#30
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,923 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 1,056 Times in 769 Posts	..... follow the money? Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ. Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg! Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town. Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!