New boat on the lake

[Carl Swoyer]

Yes it will, but on lake Winnipesaukee max speed limit is 45 mph ?????

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[Barney Bear]

This loaded boat could possibly go 45MPH in reverse! 😱

[codeman671]

It looks like an MTI-42V. If so, 450 gallon fuel capacity and 11'6" beam. You couldn't fit 4 outboards like that on a 8'6" beam.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by codeman671

It looks like an MTI-42V. If so, 450 gallon fuel capacity and 11'6" beam. You couldn't fit 4 outboards like that on a 8'6" beam.

The "Wide Load" sign must have blown off on the highway!

[jeffk]

Originally Posted by codeman671

It looks like an MTI-42V. If so, 450 gallon fuel capacity and 11'6" beam. You couldn't fit 4 outboards like that on a 8'6" beam.

Yikes, I'd hate to be waiting at the gas docks for this monster to finish fueling and get out of the way. It could take them an hour to fill up from a near empty tank. And $1500+.

Of course when you pay over $1/2 million for the boat, what's $30,000 a year for gas.

It's not really my thing but I'd love to go for a ride in one just for the fun of it.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by jeffk

Yikes, I'd hate to be waiting at the gas docks for this monster to finish fueling and get out of the way. It could take them an hour to fill up from a near empty tank. And $1500+.



Of course when you pay over $1/2 million for the boat, what's $30,000 a year for gas.



It's not really my thing but I'd love to go for a ride in one just for the fun of it.

Actually my brother had a 30' Skater with triples on the lake before the instituted the speed limit. We would go out a dawn and blast around at 100+ mph. I would fall asleep in the bulster seat It was awesome and extremely relaxing with the wind in your face with nobody around. Believe it or not those engines are extremely fuel efficient.


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[Biggd]

Did Donald Trump buy a place on the lake?

[LIforrelaxin]

Who Cares how fast the boat goes... I am sure it will go over 45, but if the owner, obeys the law what is the problem. My boat will go over 45 and I have no where that much power....

It a nice looking boat, I hope the owners enjoy it and also enjoy the lake...

Stop turning every good looking big boat into a speed limit debate.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Who Cares how fast the boat goes... I am sure it will go over 45, but if the owner, obeys the law what is the problem. My boat will go over 45 and I have no where that much power....

It a nice looking boat, I hope the owners enjoy it and also enjoy the lake...

Stop turning every good looking big boat into a speed limit debate.

Do you really think he's going to obey the law in that boat?

[jeffk]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Actually my brother had a 30' Skater with triples on the lake before the instituted the speed limit. We would go out a dawn and blast around at 100+ mph. I would fall asleep in the bulster seat It was awesome and extremely relaxing with the wind in your face with nobody around. Believe it or not those engines are extremely fuel efficient.

I'm not doubting the efficiency but given the specs of this 7 1/2+ ton boat (per the manufacturer) at 40 MPH cruise it gets about 1 mile per gallon. IF the boat was doing the speed limit it would burn through 45 gals per hour. After 10 hours, it would be sucking vapor. If you were out 5 hours each weekend day you would have to fill up every weekend. It you were running at top speed, and why else would you have this kind of boat, it would burn gas even faster. It may be efficient compared to some similar boats but it's still a LOT of money to keep it fueled and ready to play with.

BUT ... it's not MY money so, have fun!

Thinking further, in every hour you could do a complete back and forth of this 20 mile long lake. In a weekend, 10 times back and forth. I love the lake but it might get a little repetitive.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by jeffk

I'm not doubting the efficiency but given the specs of this 7 1/2+ ton boat (per the manufacturer) at 40 MPH cruise it gets about 1 mile per gallon. IF the boat was doing the speed limit it would burn through 45 gals per hour. After 10 hours, it would be sucking vapor. If you were out 5 hours each weekend day you would have to fill up every weekend. It you were running at top speed, and why else would you have this kind of boat, it would burn gas even faster. It may be efficient compared to some similar boats but it's still a LOT of money to keep it fueled and ready to play with.

BUT ... it's not MY money so, have fun!

Thinking further, in every hour you could do a complete back and forth of this 20 mile long lake. In a weekend, 10 times back and forth. I love the lake but it might get a little repetitive.

It's basically a show of opulence because there is really no need for a boat like this on this lake.

[jeffk]

Originally Posted by Biggd

It's basically a show of opulence because there is really no need for a boat like this on this lake.

If we only had what we really "need" life would probably be a bit dull. The property taxes and spending of the opulent people fuel the economy around the lake. If they want to put up a fancy house or drive a spiffy boat to point out they have been successful in life, so what.

I have a 22 foot bow rider. To those who couldn't afford one, they might get by with a skiff and an outboard and think I am showing off. I earned my money but I am not rich and I spend it as I can afford on things that I enjoy. I am sure some people see my car or boat and think "Wow, he must be well off". That's not my intention but I don't care if that's how people perceive it. It's their problem, not mine.

[fatlazyless]

I saw that boat with the four Merc outboards go past at a speed of about 35-mph, yesterday. It looks like a center console complete with an enclosure that was a boat designed by the Egyptian Navy for Queen Cleopatra to cruise up and down the Nile River. What it needs is two go-go dancers permanently positioned on the bow, port and starboard, and two Roman guards, positioned at the stern, port and starboard, and a 3-piece band positioned somewhere else ...... to bring it up to speed .... and make it a very happening boat!

Yes, that's all .....that's what it needs!

[ApS]

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Originally Posted by Resident 2B

I see a lot of these in Florida. Multiple outboards seem to be big down there these days. R2B

Me too.

I like outboards.

Most are quiet around the Big Lake. These outboards have submerged exhaust—thank you, Mercury—and won't produce the deafening "blatt" of too many I/Os.

'Course with thousands of miles to drift in Florida's open Gulfs and ocean, it's always a good thing to have a spare outboard; plus, it won't ruin your entire Lake Winnipesaukee season to have one "in the shop". (Though a spare prop would be a good idea).

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Who Cares how fast the boat goes... I am sure it will go over 45, but if the owner, obeys the law what is the problem. My boat will go over 45 and I have no where that much power....

It a nice looking boat, I hope the owners enjoy it and also enjoy the lake...

Stop turning every good looking big boat into a speed limit debate.

OK. Now, with the lake at "high-water", maybe your shoreline hasn't had enough silt eroded from it.

Better?

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[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by ApS

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Me too.

I like outboards.

Most are quiet around the Big Lake. These outboards have submerged exhaust—thank you, Mercury—and won't produce the deafening "blatt" of too many I/Os.

'Course with thousands of miles to drift in Florida's open Gulfs and ocean, it's always a good thing to have a spare outboard; plus, it won't ruin your entire Lake Winnipesaukee season to have one "in the shop". (Though a spare prop would be a good idea).


OK. Now, with the lake at "high-water", maybe your shoreline hasn't had enough silt eroded from it.

Better?

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Enough of your soapbox. A boat like this up on plane (regardless of the speed limit) will put out less of a wake than just putting around.

[Pricestavern]

That's going to be a mighty, mighty big expense if they, being new on the lake, try to blow thru the Witches (or lots of places around the lake in the fall). Could be a windfall for parts-pickers.

[cowisl]

Beautiful boat. Congrats! Happy boating

[DickR]

The only practical reason I can think of for having four outboards on the back of that boat is the raw low-end pulling pulling power it ought to provide for, say, yanking a dozen water skiiers out of the water in a ski show. Any other practical reasons?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by DickR

The only practical reason I can think of for having four outboards on the back of that boat is the raw low-end pulling pulling power it ought to provide for, say, yanking a dozen water skiiers out of the water in a ski show. Any other practical reasons?

It obviously wasn't purchased for practicality, I'd say more for ego boosting.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by DickR

The only practical reason I can think of for having four outboards on the back of that boat is the raw low-end pulling pulling power it ought to provide for, say, yanking a dozen water skiiers out of the water in a ski show. Any other practical reasons?

Salt water use at high speed would be the #1 reason to have outboards on a boat. I/Os are not very good in salt water because they are high maintenance and the engines that power them are typically truck derived and made of iron. They also typically remain full of water at rest. You can tilt those outboards out of the water at the end of the day and the engines (which were built to handle raw water cooling from the start) will drain and be completely free of cooling water. Inboards are good in salt water too, but are not meant for really high speeds.

[Woodsy]

Asking about the "practicality" of this boat is like asking about the "practicality" of a Ferrari! Its not in any way shape or form "practical". It can however go from Point A to Point B fairly quickly and safely with a bunch of people on board having a blast!

I just want to know why he went Merc instead of Seven Marine?? You see A LOT of Seven Marine OB's on the high end Poker Runners like the one above!

http://www.seven-marine.com/technology

Woodsy

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

I just want to know why he went Merc instead of Seven Marine?? You see A LOT of Seven Marine OB's on the high end Poker Runners like the one above!

Woodsy

Probably the cost believe it or not. Seven Marine 627 HP outboards run almost $100,000.00 each!! The Mercury's are probably less than $25,000.00 each.

I have a good friend who Captains a 42' Intrepid with quad Seven Marine 627 HP engines,... On the ocean of course! It's a fantastic boat! I would love to have one!

Dan

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by ApS

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OK. Now, with the lake at "high-water", maybe your shoreline hasn't had enough silt eroded from it.

Better?

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Well the thing is I would rather have this boat flying by my shoreline on plane at 40 - 45 MPH, and deal with that wake, then the 30-40 ft cruisers that plow through creating big rollers... Just saying...

Originally Posted by Biggd

Do you really think he's going to obey the law in that boat?

Weather I believe he will obey the law or not, is simply my opinion on that mater... Maybe he will maybe he will not, I have no why of really knowing, but I will not condemn him of not obeying the speed limit, until there is proof that he hasn't operated within the limits of the law.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Well the thing is I would rather have this boat flying by my shoreline on plane at 40 - 45 MPH, and deal with that wake, then the 30-40 ft cruisers that plow through creating big rollers...

It doesn't matter that both designs belong on the ocean?


This lake has many, many, miles of steep shorelines. My steep shoreline is definitely eroding from weekend boaters who insist on boats designed for use on oceans.

→ For April's "opening-up", I routinely fill gallon jugs with Lake Winnipesaukee water each season to prime our water pump. In the photo below, the gallon on the right was dragged out from under the house, and was filled September, 2016.

Even drawing water 75 feet from our shoreline, the gallon on the left was filled last Sunday—a mistake!

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[Skip]

Originally Posted by ApS

→ For April's "opening-up", I routinely fill gallon jugs with Lake Winnipesaukee water each season to prime our water pump. In the photo below, the gallon on the right was dragged out from under the house, and was filled September, 2016.

Even drawing water 75 feet from our shoreline, the gallon on the left was filled last Sunday—a mistake!

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Too funny. Even a sixth grade science student would correctly surmise that any sediment present in a water sample drawn nearly a year ago would have long since settled out.

You are much much better at hyperbole than this my old friend. Please don't disappoint in your next post!

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by ApS

→ For April's "opening-up", I routinely fill gallon jugs with Lake Winnipesaukee water each season to prime our water pump. In the photo below, the gallon on the right was dragged out from under the house, and was filled September, 2016.

Even drawing water 75 feet from our shoreline, the gallon on the left was filled last Sunday—a mistake!

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ApS, very interesting. UNH and the Lake Winnipesaukee Association have a program underway to monitor water quality. You can check out your area on the link below. If your area does not have data, you can reach out to them or PM me for info on how to volunteer. I just started collecting samples a couple of weeks ago--it's kind of fun like a camp science project, and it could be important.

http://winnipesaukeegateway.org/moni...ing-sites-map/

[Bootkie2]

I noticed on this map Greens Basin area has poor water quality. This part of the lake is quieter than the rest so home maintenance and industrial causes are probably less of a factor, but I know the spraying of Millfoil chemicals has been very active in this area. Is the poor water quality a self inflicted wound (an ancillary effect of the chemical treatments?)

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Bootkie2

I noticed on this map Greens Basin area has poor water quality. This part of the lake is quieter than the rest so home maintenance and industrial causes are probably less of a factor, but I know the spraying of Millfoil chemicals has been very active in this area. Is the poor water quality a self inflicted wound (an ancillary effect of the chemical treatments?)

I doubt it, it's much more likely due to the general lack of water flow up there, the shallow depths, and the tremendous amount of deciduous leaves that fall into that water, relative to the volume of water, compared to areas that are much more wide open and deep.

FWIW, clarity is just one measure of water quality, and it is not necessarily a measure of the health of a lake. Murky water is probably perfectly normal in that area of the lake. Google "tannic lake water" for lots moe info on the subject.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Bootkie2

I noticed on this map Greens Basin area has poor water quality. This part of the lake is quieter than the rest so home maintenance and industrial causes are probably less of a factor, but I know the spraying of Millfoil chemicals has been very active in this area. Is the poor water quality a self inflicted wound (an ancillary effect of the chemical treatments?)

Though that part of the lake is quieter, runoff and erosion from homes, roads and other areas is the primary driver, with the biggest water quality problem being phosphorous. Here's the Executive Summary:

http://winnipesaukeegateway.org/wp-c...mm_Mar2017.pdf

[Phantom]

So does anyone know where this boat is slipped if I wanted to take (non Lake) friends by to show them ?


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[MeredithMan]

Phantom--
Just tried to private message you on this, but I'm not sure it went through....

[ApS]

Originally Posted by PeterG

ApS, very interesting. UNH and the Lake Winnipesaukee Association have a program underway to monitor water quality. You can check out your area on the link below. If your area does not have data, you can reach out to them or PM me for info on how to volunteer. I just started collecting samples a couple of weeks ago--it's kind of fun like a camp science project, and it could be important.

http://winnipesaukeegateway.org/moni...ing-sites-map/

Thanks, but my previous "data" only occurs on weekends and when the lake is high--in season.

Still, imagine all the lawncare pollution--and moss, leaves and silt--suddenly being rinsed into the lake--all at once.

First, it was the algae, but this is the first time in 61 years we must consider sediment filters--and lots of 'em.

[Slickcraft]

Alton Bay today

[SAMIAM]

Wow......love to see those two go at it.Think the Nor-tech might have the edge being a cat

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Wow......love to see those two go at it.Think the Nor-tech might have the edge being a cat

First one to get to the 45 speed limit wins?

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Wow......love to see those two go at it.Think the Nor-tech might have the edge being a cat

It wouldn't even be close... the cat would smoke it.

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by Biggd

It's basically a show of opulence because there is really no need for a boat like this on this lake.

You know, I see a lot of cars and a lot of homes around the lake that I could say the same thing about. Who Cares? It is not my place to be deciding how others spend their money and time and I can never understand why others seem to feel the need. Could it be that they secretly wish they were in the position to be the guy/woman behind the wheel? If they're not bothering you (and don't prejudge) let it go.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

You know, I see a lot of cars and a lot of homes around the lake that I could say the same thing about. Who Cares? It is not my place to be deciding how others spend their money and time and I can never understand why others seem to feel the need. Could it be that they secretly wish they were in the position to be the guy/woman behind the wheel? If they're not bothering you (and don't prejudge) let it go.


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I don't really care, just expressing an opinion from my experience associating with people like this. He won't bother me at all because I'm on lake Waukewan.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I don't really care, just expressing an opinion from my experience associating with people like this. He won't bother me at all because I'm on lake Waukewan.

So why did you even comment in the first place if "he won't bother me at all" as you stated?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Tyler

So why did you even comment in the first place if "he won't bother me at all" as you stated?

Sorry, I thought this was a public forum where anyone could post an opinion. Please forgive me.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Sorry, I thought this was a public forum where anyone could post an opinion. Please forgive me.

You are forgiven.

You did state that "from my experience associating with people like this", I am curious, have you met the owner of this boat?

[Formula260SS]

Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by Formula260SS

Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.

Looks to me that boat sports old fashioned "Ego-Stroke" technology

[radiocontester]

Originally Posted by kawishiwi

Looks to me that boat sports old fashioned "Ego-Stroke" technology

Hopefully the owner is not that type....I appreciate cool boats like this but lose interest quickly when the owner is a bonehead, like the one I saw exiting the no wake zone on the north end of Bear Island Wednesday afternoon...pumping his fists and all.

[codeman671]

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.

That boats on steroids!

[MeredithMan]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.

I have seen the boat docked at a place a couple doors down from Triple H, so that may be where the statement came from. Mr HHH's boat is actually quite modest.

[jeffatsquam]

Originally Posted by Formula260SS

Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.

It appears it dose not even need bumpers, and covering it must be a bear

[Seaplane Pilot]

Just noticed this boat has the controversial rear-facing seat! Oh boy...

[BroadHopper]

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

Check your math...I see 1600 horses!

[New Hampshire Lake Man]

That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 263 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.

As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood.

[kawishiwi]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!

1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again.

As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".

I love my little tin boat and all 115 horses. I have no jealousy for the 1600hp boat. Some things are just ridiculous. 1600hp on Winnipesaukee is one example. I have no problem with it. In fact I feel a bit sorry for the owner. You seem to be a bit bitter about the speed limit. Please dont project that onto all of us who see the absurdity of that boat on Winni. In fact, if I had to guess, you might be the most jealous?

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Carl Swoyer

Yes it will, but on lake Winnipesaukee max speed limit is 45 mph ?????

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It's just an arbitrary law, it has no bearing on actual boat speeds. People routinely exceed 45 on the lake.

There isn't a car made today that won't easily exceed the highway speed limit by at least 30 MPH. Just because you can drive a 4 cylinder Camry at 110+ MPH does not mean you have to. The Camry will cruise effortlessly at 80.

That boat will probably go <80 MPH, tops. It's big, heavy, wide, and has a lot of drag with 4 lower units in the water. It's clearly not made just for speed, I imagine comfort was a higher priority than speed in the design studio. I bet it'll cruise beautifully at 45 MPH.

The 4 engines look impressive, but it's really a total of "just" 1400 HP (I think, it's hard to see the numbers clearly) on a what appears to be a 40ish foot boat. Mercury makes single engines with more power than that. Here's one that's got 1650 HP: http://www.mercuryracing.com/sterndr...ngines/1650-2/