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Very impressive, I would love to catch a ride. The interior is something to see, totally set-up for performance and comfort at the same time. And yes it draws attention for sure.
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Hopefully the owner is not that type....I appreciate cool boats like this but lose interest quickly when the owner is a bonehead, like the one I saw exiting the no wake zone on the north end of Bear Island Wednesday afternoon...pumping his fists and all.
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I was at a dealer on the lake yesterday and mentioned this boat to the sales rep. He said that it belongs to Triple H.
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I have seen the boat docked at a place a couple doors down from Triple H, so that may be where the statement came from. Mr HHH's boat is actually quite modest.
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I will also add that I have seen the boat come and go from its home a number of times, as well as having passed it while on the lake. I've never seen any reckless behavior, crazy speed, blaring music, or other yahoo antics, that I have witnessed on much smaller, less expensive boats.
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Just noticed this boat has the controversial rear-facing seat! Oh boy...
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The fact everyone is jealous because they have not is the reason behind the SL law. People are jealous of the GFBL boats of a decade ago. I remember the same folks also want HP and size restrictions of recreational boats. Their theme is 'On Golden Pond' attitude and they are definitely on the wrong lake!
1200 HP will definitely stir the hornet nest once more. Soon you they will ask for HP legislation. And I don't want to go there! I spent countless hours and dollars trying to fight for boaters rights, yet these group of Winni folks went through all kinds of political tactics to get the SL RSA. And they will do it again. As I quote the SL sponsor: "Sea Rays belong on the seas, .....................".
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That boat is dumb. Quad engines? On an inland lake with 263 islands, limited open water, and a speed limit? It belongs in Miami.
As far as anyone being jealous, I think the operators of boats like these are usually the jealous ones - jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood. Last edited by New Hampshire Lake Man; 07-10-2017 at 11:22 AM. |
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Simply responding to someone else's accusation (that those of us who oppose 1600 HP boats on Winnipesaukee are somehow "jealous"). I can't let such a ridiculous comment go unchallenged. The only thing I'm jealous of is other lakes that have figured out how to maintain the peace and tranquility of God's creation while still enabling the broader community to enjoy access to the water.
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New Hampshire Lake Man posted "jealous that others don't have to ply the glacial waters of Winnipesaukee with 1600 HP to prove their manhood."
I only have a problem with that comment from you. "Prove their manhood", come on man grow up. Simply state that you do not think this type of boat belongs on the lake and not take a cheap shot at the owner. |
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Thank goodness this new boat is on the Lake, right or wrong, 'cause if it wasn't here, what would we have to talk about.??
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In reply to APS: we had nearly record low water levels last year when you filled that bottle on the right. Low rainfall = minimal runoff into the lake = really clear water. We've had a fair amount of rain this year and the lake is at or very nearly full. I'll take a little discoloration in the lake for regular rainfall.
I've seen the boat that's the subject of this thread. It's WAY above my pay grade and not my personal cup of Joe but it was wicked quiet going by our place. To each their own, I'll admit I'd like a ride! ![]()
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Wow.... gotta love all of the negativity!
So what if somebody has 1600Hp of eggbeaters hanging off the back of his boat? Its not your business! If he can afford the boat/gas/transport etc... good for him! Lets start slamming all of the big lakefront homeowners too.... I mean why would you ever need a house like that? Cheers to those who can afford those houses! I saw this boat running during the Easter Seals Poker Run... probably the quietest boat in the crowd. Not to mention it wasn't remotely the fastest! Its AWESOME to see boats like this coming back to Lake Winni! Woodsy
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But, to take your analogy a bit further, if Jeff Bezos, or worse some corporation, wanted to spend his fortune by buying ALL the property on Winnipesaukee, demolishing all the homes and businesses, and preserving Winni for his own personal enjoyment do you think something should prevent him from doing so? |
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Its YOUR opinion that the lake houses are too ostentatious and not in harmony. If you want a quieter, more restrictive lake go to Squam or one of the less developed lakes.
Lake Winni has a long storied history of large houses, speedboats and big money. The "barn door" has been open on Lake Winni far too long to get the horses back into the barn. There have been numerous opportunities for the State of NH/lakeside towns to buy up some lakefront/island property and preserve it.... yet no real effort was made. The lake adds too much money to the economy. So if Bezos were to swoop in and try to buy it all up... the State would block the deal. Too much tax $$$ would be lost, not to mention the economic devastation to the area. The reality is.... that except for island dwellers, nobody NEEDS a boat. They are a luxury item.... So just like a luxury car... there going to be Ferraris, and Lamborghinis driving around with the Chevy's & Fords... Woodsy
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2) I do go to a different lake. My roots are at Winni but I left years ago to get away from the ocean-going vessels and GFBL ridiculousness. But I still love Winni and hold out hope for her future. 3) My question was a philosophical one, not a practical one. I'm curious to know if you think there should be any limits to what people can do on the lake. Philosophically speaking, do you have an objection to extraordinary wealth being used to purchase ALL property, close docks, marinas, etc? SHOULD Bezos be allowed to do that if he chose to? 4) The analogy of luxury cars is problematic because cars are the same size. A better analogy would be allowing monster trucks to drive on 93 at 70 miles an hour. Or, in some cases, a Boeing 787. |
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Like I said.... the State left the Barn door open on Lake Winni along time ago! You cannot re-write history...
The boat in question here is definitely not loud, and I don't think it is very fast... its just big and IMHO pretty. I have no problem if Bezos or anyone with enough $$$ buys up the lake as long as he/they also pay the money lost from his purchase into the economy annually as well. So all of the people who make their living "on the lake" are not affected. The best part of that would be, despite owning all of the property, the public still would have access.... so all of those boats that you seem to despise would still be on the lake! Your car analogy is the flawed analogy.... we already have huge 70,000lb trucks driving 70+ MPH on our highways right next to a little 12' long 3500lb Prius! Yet where is the outrage? That poor Prius driver is in grave danger.... Woodsy
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My posts are VERY different. I am not slamming anyone posting that suggest there is not a need for a 1600 hp boat on this lake. My issue is with those who suggest that the OWNER of this and other similar boats are personally attacked by some including yourself. No need to slam the owner, if you do not like this type of boat simply state that and do not slam the owner, pretty simple, hope you can comprehend that.
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Woodsy- I admire your consistency. You have no problem with an individual closing out 95% of access to the lake. I don't agree with you but appreciate the consistent application of your philosophy.
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I didn't say I would be happy about it....
![]() But the real issue is personal rights vs. public rights. Hence my reference to the horse being already out of the barn. IMHO, the lake has too few/little public access points. For example... Laconia does not have a public boat launch, and the only decent state owned launch is in Alton Bay with limited parking. I also think this big boat ($$$$) vs little boat ($) argument is way overblown. If someone can afford a big $$$ boat good for them. If all someone can afford is a small $ boat... good for them too! Boats are luxury items... very few people NEED a boat. So I don't have much tolerance for a guy with a small boat or lake house whining about a guy with a bigger boat or house. To me it is like the have(s) whining about the have more(s). I happen to fall into the have(s) category. I am blessed enough to live here year 'round in a small condo off the water in the Weirs, and a smaller (26') boat. Woodsy
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Yes but Woodsy you have a ZX.
I'm joking just perpetuating the big boat / small boat! Wait.... we are a cult just like BMW, Harley Davidson, we are DONZI! |
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the funny part is..... I really do not see much "bad". I see big slow cruisers, go fast's, runabouts, jet skis etc all out enjoying this wonderful resource.
People say its crazy out there.... and don't get me wrong, there are way more boats this year. probably the most boats on the lake since the real estate crash. Despite this... the reality is we have very, very few boat collisions of any sort. I attribute this mostly to the 150' rule.... although distance on the water is hard to judge, and everybody thinks the "other guy" comes too close, causing all sorts of butthurt on the lake. The accident stats show that NH/Lake Winnipesaukee is very safe to boat on. Woodsy
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![]() I for one am jealous. I would love to have that boat sitting at my dock! Hell, I will settle for a ride on it. No negativity about someone else owning it from me. ![]() Those motors are great, after having a Verado 300 Pro on a previous boat and loving it I can imagine how sweet those 400's are. Whisper quiet at idle, and great under power. |
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I have to call BS on this one. I've been on the lake for over 20 years and the "peak" for fast loud boats is behind us. Are there some out there? Of course! But fewer today than say 5-10 years ago. Anyways, this is the"live free or die" state, right?
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I've got you beat by 20 years. The boats today are much quieter but todays boats are much faster. Engine noise is no longer an issue with these new 4 stroke outboards. The speed limit and the number marine patrols on the lake has helped to keep the speed in check. Otherwise Winni would be a free for all on weekends.
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Bernie had become President! Everyone would have received one of these new Subaru Boats for free, compliments of Bernie and the government. Nice and quiet, economical on fuel and perfect for all the tree huggers out there.
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Its your choice how YOU spend your money.... but your choice should not be forced upon someone else. Because YOU don't like certain boats they should not be allowed? Because YOU don't like certain houses they should not be allowed either? Certainly sounds like a me me me attitude. How someone spends their money is not my concern as long as it is within the law. It is THEIR choice on how THEY want to spend THIER money. If someone wants and can afford an big house or a big boat... good for them!
That being said... all of the older hackercrafts/garwoods/etc have open (un-muffled) exhaust. They get a pass because they are few in number... if they were greater in number, no doubt there would be lots of noise/speed complaints. Lake Winnipesaukee is owned by the people of NH. Although it is not a State Park in a formal manner... It is for all practical intents and purposes a State Park... thus it is subject to all sorts of uses by the public. Nowhere is it written that anyone has the right to peace and quiet.... So ski/wakeboard or pontoon boats with their speakers booming, Go fast boats with legal exhaust, jet skis with their motor whine etc are all legally permitted uses in the lake. Woodsy
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I think the word perspective is correct... My perspective of beautiful and tranquil may not be the same as what you see as beautiful and tranquil. Reminds me of the commercial of a city couple setting up a tent in the woods and camping, then deciding it was too quiet and played city noise on their iPhone and fell fast asleep to honking, motors, and annoying (to me) city noise...
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No offense but... Judging by the amount of and size of boats on the lake, and the amount of and size of houses on the lake....
Clearly, you are in the minority.... your vision of beautiful & tranquil doesn't seem to fit with what the majority of lake dwellers has embraced. Forcing the majority of people to accept YOUR vision of what the lake should be is selfish... everyone has their own vision of how it should be. If you want beautiful & tranquil... go to Squam or a smaller lake. That version of Lake Winnipesaukee ended a long, long time ago... if it ever even existed. Woodsy
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that must be the same thoughts in 1930 ? when wooding power boats hit the water thing change so move on its still beautiful & tranquil lake. |
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And nobody complained about the number of homes--the complaint was about clear cutting trees, which most people understand damages the lake. In general, loud people take up more room, and therefore appear more numerous, than quiet people. |
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PeterG....
It was NH Lake Man who said "Many Winnipesaukee houses are completely ostentatious" And my point is getting lost in the text of it all... So I will try to explain it more simply. If the MAJORITY of lake dwellers and NH residents wanted a "tranquil" lake, the laws regarding how people can enjoy the lake would reflect that. In case you didn't know.... that's usually how our system of government works. Point in case.... Squam Lake. Always had a 45 MPH speed limit, very strict waterfront building codes etc. etc. That has not been he case here on Lake Winnipesaukee, where until recently all forms of waterborne enjoyment were welcome. Woodsy
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Those antique boats with original engines don't make a lot of noise. Rather pleasant to some. Standing on shore the noise from some go-fast boats is ridiculous, but they like it. Maybe in future years their loss of hearing will be the result.
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I hope he buys six more, each with twice as many engines as the previous ones.
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....As I posted earlier in this thread, neither of those are HHH's boat. His boat is quite modest. The big center console lives at a house next to HHH. Let's stop spreading false rumors.
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Webmaster, has this thread broken the record for posts? Got to be close...
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It seems like bickering between the have's and the have not's. I'm in the have not's as I do not have the money nor the desire to support one of these boats.
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rsmlp -- if that was a serious question ... the Answer is NO (not even close)
here are a few that dwarf this off track thread: https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...t=11509&page=4 https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...t=18320&page=3 .
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Been wondering what happen when I saw a beauty of a pontoon boat idling through Eagle Island no wake last night.
A Premier tri-toon with 3 300HP 'rudes! Didn't know Evinrude makes 300HP motors unless the owner put a different sticker on the motors to throw them off!
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.....and, if you have a boat that may break the sound barrier then launch it over in Portsmouth and have fun in the salt water.
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... Just embarrassing yourself. No haters on this thread. Just folks who recognize silliness and mention it. Anyone who feels the need for 1600 hp on winni is trying to make up for a shortcoming elsewhere in life. I am TOTALLY FINE with that boat having 1600hp or more. But it is also funny. How fast do you get to 45 mph? Given all the weight I bet my boat gets to 40 before his does. You sound upset that other people dont share your envy of stupidity.
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As for times to 45 MPH, speed limits, etc, who ever said it was brought here to race, or to push to its maximum potential?
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