Will Your Next Car Be an Old One?

[The Real BigGuy]

I was thinking about a pickup and thought I might as well look at electric. After reading some articles it appeared that I was going to get 75 - 80 miles a charge towing my 4K lb boat. Not quite enough to get from home to the lake so it would turn a 2 hr trip into a 4 - 5 hr trip w/charging. Not some thing I’m ready for.

And for the person who said chargers are everywhere. Not yet their not. If you go off highway into the hinterlands you sometimes need to go 20, 30, or more miles out of your way to find one based on some of the long term tests I’ve read.

So, when they come out with a reasonably priced electric pickup with 200 - 300 miles of towing range and more charging stations, I’m in but, that’s probably several years off.


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[LikeLakes]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

I was thinking about a pickup and thought I might as well look at electric. After reading some articles it appeared that I was going to get 75 - 80 miles a charge towing my 4K lb boat. Not quite enough to get from home to the lake so it would turn a 2 hr trip into a 4 - 5 hr trip w/charging. Not some thing I’m ready for.

And for the person who said chargers are everywhere. Not yet their not. If you go off highway into the hinterlands you sometimes need to go 20, 30, or more miles out of your way to find one based on some of the long term tests I’ve read.

So, when they come out with a reasonably priced electric pickup with 200 - 300 miles of towing range and more charging stations, I’m in but, that’s probably several years off.


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On the pickup, the problem is with "reasonably priced". Recent models, not that you can even get them yet, will tow further than that, but the prices are extremely high.

You are right, we've got a ways to go with charging stations being common enough, like gas stations, to make finding them less of a challenge. I'm definitely interested in an electric car but it would be 95% used for days where I didn't have to charge anyplace but home. With even lower priced models getting easily over 200 mile range now that's most days for most of us.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

I was thinking about a pickup and thought I might as well look at electric. After reading some articles it appeared that I was going to get 75 - 80 miles a charge towing my 4K lb boat. Not quite enough to get from home to the lake so it would turn a 2 hr trip into a 4 - 5 hr trip w/charging. Not sohttps://insideevs.com/news/566070/tesla-supercharger-cables-cut-stolen/me thing I’m ready for.
And for the person who said chargers are everywhere. Not yet their not. If you go off highway into the hinterlands you sometimes need to go 20, 30, or more miles out of your way to find one based on some of the long term tests I’ve read.

So, when they come out with a reasonably priced electric pickup with 200 - 300 miles of towing range and more charging stations, I’m in but, that’s probably several years off.

It's especially important nowadays to call ahead--USA and Canada:

https://insideevs.com/news/566070/te...es-cut-stolen/

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Understandable--during the 90s and 00s, BMW was adding electronics steadily. They moved away from being a car for great drivers towards a car that drove great for everybody. So the old guard has always maintained that the new cars were not as good as the previous. (Obviously, this is a matter of preference) Porsche 911 is the same in this regard, yes?

I can't speak to this. My last Porsche drives were a new rental 1984 Porsche 911 at Nürburgring, and a new 911 Turbo I was tasked to "ferry" 5000 miles to a 1988 competition event. (The owner graciously let me compete in the same event, and came within one-tenth of a second of his time). In ten days, we'd worn-out all four of his new tires!

My two 914/6s had "enough electronics" in 1971...

[LikeLakes]

Originally Posted by ApS

My two 914/6s had "enough electronics" in 1971...

My first car was a 1957 Willy's Jeep. Driver's wiper was run by vacuum, passenger was a hand crank. No radio. Manual choke and throttle. About as spartan as it can get. Not exactly your 914's, but I get it. Had so much fun in that Jeep!

[codeman671]

I am in no way ready for an EV. The battery technology isn't there yet. I am more of a horsepower guy. I don't buy for gas mileage, its never been a concern for me. I drive a 3/4 ton Ram megacab or a 2022 Escalade ESV as my daily commuters, which now is 45 minutes each way as we moved to Gilford 2 weeks ago from Dover.

My next vehicle will be a Ram TRX. 702hp, awd and fun as hell.

My wife's dream is a 1954 Ford F100 pickup, just like the red Hallmark christmas truck.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I am in no way ready for an EV. The battery technology isn't there yet. I am more of a horsepower guy. I don't buy for gas mileage, its never been a concern for me. I drive a 3/4 ton Ram megacab or a 2022 Escalade ESV as my daily commuters, which now is 45 minutes each way as we moved to Gilford 2 weeks ago from Dover.

My next vehicle will be a Ram TRX. 702hp, awd and fun as hell.

My wife's dream is a 1954 Ford F100 pickup, just like the red Hallmark christmas truck.

I'm with you - no EV's for me. I love fossil fuels, and have zero intention of ever buying into this EV nonsense. I'll buy a horse and buggy if gasoline powered vehicles become a thing of the past.

On the other hand, for those of you that love the EV world, you can now buy an electric pontoon boat. 23 MPH top speed, with a range of 26 miles. Hold on to your hat, Helen!

https://www.purewatercraft.com/produ...-pontoon-boat/

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I love fossil fuels.

Smart. Real smart. My hat is off to you.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

Smart. Real smart. My hat is off to you.

I think he's messing with you.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

I think he's messing with you.

I’m not messing with anyone. I stated my opinion, and got a snide remark in return. That’s what happens on here when someone doesn’t march in lock-step with virtual signaling lifestyles and positions that others push.

[LikeLakes]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I'm with you - no EV's for me. I love fossil fuels, and have zero intention of ever buying into this EV nonsense. I'll buy a horse and buggy if gasoline powered vehicles become a thing of the past.

On the other hand, for those of you that love the EV world, you can now buy an electric pontoon boat. 23 MPH top speed, with a range of 26 miles. Hold on to your hat, Helen!

https://www.purewatercraft.com/produ...-pontoon-boat/

Kind of like that electric powered seaplane ... not going to happen in our lifetime.

I get it. I love fossil fuel too, that's why I have a ski boat and others, powerful truck to plow and tow with, sports car for fun. But I still am intrigued by EV vehicles. I'll own one in the not too distant future, the tech is pretty cool plus for me, not suggesting everyone has to agree or feel this way, I would feel better with some of my 30,000 miles/year of driving being in an EV rather than gas or diesel.

I'd love to catch a ride with you some day, another thing about fossil fuel I love is the sound of engines and hearing a seaplane start up and take off puts a smile on my face!

[John Mercier]

That will all be replaced with hydrogen.

[John Mercier]

OPEC+ is proposing to cut 2M b/d out of production.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

That will all be replaced with hydrogen.

BMW began production fourteen years ago using their standard 12-cylinder V-12 engine in their most luxurious 4-door sedan, the 760

"The BMW Hydrogen 7 is a limited production hydrogen internal combustion engine vehicle built from 2005-2007[1] by German automobile manufacturer BMW. The car is based on BMW’s traditional gasoline-powered BMW 7 Series (E65) line of vehicles, and more specifically the 760Li.

"It uses the same 6-litre V-12 motor as does the 760i and 760Li; however, it has been modified to also allow for the combustion of hydrogen as well as gasoline, making it a bivalent engine. Unlike many other current hydrogen powered vehicles like those being produced by Hyundai, Honda, General Motors, and Daimler AG – which use fuel cell technology and hydrogen to produce electricity to power the vehicle – the BMW Hydrogen 7 burns the hydrogen in an internal combustion engine."

--Wikipedia

[John Mercier]

The plane will also though.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I am in no way ready for an EV. The battery technology isn't there yet. I am more of a horsepower guy. I don't buy for gas mileage, its never been a concern for me. I drive a 3/4 ton Ram megacab or a 2022 Escalade ESV as my daily commuters, which now is 45 minutes each way as we moved to Gilford 2 weeks ago from Dover. My next vehicle will be a Ram TRX. 702hp, awd and fun as hell.

My wife's dream is a 1954 Ford F100 pickup, just like the red Hallmark christmas truck.

Today, a nice red 1954 Ford F100 pickup is a $25,000 dream.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1954-ford-f-100/

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by LikeLakes

My first car was a 1957 Willy's Jeep. Driver's wiper was run by vacuum, passenger was a hand crank. No radio. Manual choke and throttle. About as spartan as it can get. Not exactly your 914's, but I get it. Had so much fun in that Jeep!

I am about to buy a 50s Willys wagon or a pickup.

Regarding newer, I am keeping my 99 F250 diesel with 6 speed but am going to buy a new pickup to replace my daily driver (2011 MB E350 4matic)- will go with a F150 Powerboost (3.5 ecoboost hybrid) with built in 7.2KW generator