best lobster roll on the lake

Taz · 07-22-2009, 07:16 PM

Can someone who understands the restaurant business explain why on earth Lobster Rolls are going for $18? I just read in the Union Leader that Lobster prices are so low that some Maine Lobstermen are thinking of parking their boats until the price goes up.

I remember the last year that Waldo Peppers was in the old location, their lobster roll was $10.95 or $11.95 and that included fries.

I plan to boycott lobster rolls until the price is reasonable. As much as I love them I refuse to pay $18.

Happy Gourmand · 07-23-2009, 08:18 AM

When the prices are down, I usually make it to the local supermarket and have them steam up 4 or 6 lobsters. I take them home and shuck them....cut them up...toast a fresh roll....stuff it and pour a little melted butter over the top and try not to devour it.
The leftover gets chilled and I add a bit of Hellman's mayonnaise ( this makes a difference, the cheap mayonnaise is awful ) I never complain about having lobster rolls 2 days in a row!

SAMIAM · 07-23-2009, 09:02 AM

Phantom is right...Hellman's makes the difference...and Taz is right too..lobster is cheap this year and our lobster rolls at the Red Hill Dari are still $11.95 with fries....same as last year.

mike ray · 07-25-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz

Can someone who understands the restaurant business explain why on earth Lobster Rolls are going for $18? I just read in the Union Leader that Lobster prices are so low that some Maine Lobstermen are thinking of parking their boats until the price goes up.

I remember the last year that Waldo Peppers was in the old location, their lobster roll was $10.95 or $11.95 and that included fries.

I plan to boycott lobster rolls until the price is reasonable. As much as I love them I refuse to pay $18.

hard shell lobsters are at 8 dollars a pound and that is what we use in our lobster rolls at the pound. frozen lobster meat and soft shell lobsters are less expensive. i think people just need to decide if they want to spend a few dollars more for fresh, quality lobster meat and no fillers.

VtSteve · 07-25-2009, 09:59 PM

Hey Mike, finally getting over your way next month. We weren't sure about the Friday afternoon, but on August 21st we're heading to the LP for drinks and dinner. Anything exciting going on then? Love to meet you.

Taz · 07-26-2009, 01:31 PM

Thats it! I am going to Red Hill for a Lobster Roll the next time I go to Center Harbor. Good reviews and the price is reasonable.

mike ray · 07-26-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VtSteve

Hey Mike, finally getting over your way next month. We weren't sure about the Friday afternoon, but on August 21st we're heading to the LP for drinks and dinner. Anything exciting going on then? Love to meet you.

we have some great live music planned that weekend. friday aug. 21 we have the grinning lizzards who play here and in the area all the time. they play a great mix of music and will have you up dancing. same goes for our band sat night, cryin out loud. they area amazing and had the roof deck rockin just last nite. sundays we have acoustic singers. if the weather is good the music will be on the deck from7pm-10pm. please ask for me or my brother rich, one of us is always here. we will take good care of you.

garysanfran · 07-27-2009, 03:32 PM

Actually the microwave is the best method for cooking lobster. I've tried this several times...Always perfect. Read the following link...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGJU3QL1P1.DTL

VtSteve · 07-27-2009, 09:39 PM

Do you bake or broil lizard?

Sounds great Mike.

BlackCatIslander · 07-28-2009, 09:21 PM

There may some as good as Sam and Rosie's but I doubt that any are better,

Cristen · 07-30-2009, 11:06 AM

Kevin's Cafe in Moultonborough has amazing lobster rolls (and crab cakes too).

SAMIAM · 07-30-2009, 01:52 PM

Cristen, even though Kevins is a competitor......I bow when I drive by the place because his crabcakes are so good. Had lunch there monday and ordered two crabcake apps. Sammie had fish and chips. delicious.

hazelnut · 07-30-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Cristen, even though Kevins is a competitor......I bow when I drive by the place because his crabcakes are so good. Had lunch there monday and ordered two crabcake apps. Sammie had fish and chips. delicious.

There is definitely room for both of you!

Seriously though it's like comparing Apples and Oranges as you guys do what you and you do it so well. Nice to see you heaping on the Kudos to a fellow restaurant. I have seen quite a bit of that from the seasoned professional restaurant owners on this forum. It's good to see.

ishoot308 · 07-30-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Cristen, even though Kevins is a competitor......I bow when I drive by the place because his crabcakes are so good. Had lunch there monday and ordered two crabcake apps. Sammie had fish and chips. delicious.

Samiam;

Which restaurants do you own...I thought you owned Sam & Rosies (which my wife and I have been to for breakfast and is great). You also own the Village Kitchen (another great place!)??

Thanks!

Dan

hazelnut · 07-30-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

Samiam;

Which restaurants do you own...I thought you owned Sam & Rosies (which my wife and I have been to for breakfast and is great). You also own the Village Kitchen (another great place!)??

Thanks!

Dan

Dan,

SAMIAM owns the Village Kitchen and the Red Hill Dairy in Center Harbor.
Both have delicious food and they are both run very well.

Sam & Rosies has been mentioned in other forums and I think those guys do a great job as well. Kind of a hidden gem if you will.

ishoot308 · 07-30-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hazelnut

Dan,

SAMIAM owns the Village Kitchen and the Red Hill Dairy in Center Harbor.
Both have delicious food and they are both run very well.

Sam & Rosies has been mentioned in other forums and I think those guys do a great job as well. Kind of a hidden gem if you will.

Thanks Hazelnut;

For some reason I thought he owned Sam & Rosies too, and yes it is a hidden gem!

Dan

Meredith lady · 07-30-2009, 11:05 PM

Samiam...for your comment on our crabcakes..we love the VK and the Dari as well...both are well run, and the food is fabulous!!

FatboyNH · 08-05-2009, 01:05 PM

Folks,

As much as I love lobster rolls, paying $13 - $17 for it today is absolutely rediculous. You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks. I have taken the liberty of buying lobsters this year cheap, boil them, mix in some celery and mayo, and voila.....the best lobster rolls anywhere, and for less than half the cost of what you all are paying. I hope you all enjoy your rolls. I sure am.

VitaBene · 08-05-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FatboyNH

Folks,

As much as I love lobster rolls, paying $13 - $17 for it today is absolutely rediculous. You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks. I have taken the liberty of buying lobsters this year cheap, boil them, mix in some celery and mayo, and voila.....the best lobster rolls anywhere, and for less than half the cost of what you all are paying. I hope you all enjoy your rolls. I sure am.

Until you got to the celery part!! NO Celery.

Really though, I agree the prices are high this year given lobster cost but we are paying for convenience.

FatboyNH · 08-05-2009, 03:12 PM

Convenience is one thing, price gouging is another. If you want to pay double for convenience, go for it. I will opt not to partake in overpriced lobster (and in some cases langostino) filled hotdog rolls.

Just an FYI if you decide to make it yourself, if you shave the celery real thin, you hardly notice it but it adds a slightly better texture to the lobster mix. Enjoy.

NonVoting Taxpayer · 08-05-2009, 03:34 PM

FatboyNH
Better check your math. If you ever picked a pound of Lobster Meat, you would know it takes five to six 1 1/2lb lobsters to get 1 pound of lobster meat. Even at $4.99 a pound it would cost $38-$45 to make a pound. Usually Cheaper to buy it than to pick your own.
On top of all this, $4.99 a pound is hard to find.

trfour · 08-05-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FatboyNH

Convenience is one thing, price gouging is another. If you want to pay double for convenience, go for it. I will opt not to partake in overpriced lobster (and in some cases langostino) filled hotdog rolls.

Just an FYI if you decide to make it yourself, if you shave the celery real thin, you hardly notice it but it adds a slightly better texture to the lobster mix. Enjoy.

The costs of running a business, and in this economy?....
Sure, the "Do It Yourselfers save lots of cash, and then again, some of us want to get out on our vacation, more views and people to meet"! Might even be able to view an awesome sunrise or sunset that inspires us.
Don't get me wrong, I have lived here for twenty + years, however I have enjoyed the delicate texture and tastes of some of the most wonderful Restaurants that this world has ever known!

meteotrade · 08-05-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FatboyNH

Folks,

As much as I love lobster rolls, paying $13 - $17 for it today is absolutely rediculous.

Can you please enlighten us as to what we can buy in a restaurant that isn't marked up by at least 100%?

The bottom line: Convenience cost money.

sa meredith · 08-05-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FatboyNH

Folks,

As much as I love lobster rolls, paying $13 - $17 for it today is absolutely rediculous. You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks. I have taken the liberty of buying lobsters this year cheap, boil them, mix in some celery and mayo, and voila.....the best lobster rolls anywhere, and for less than half the cost of what you all are paying. I hope you all enjoy your rolls. I sure am.

A POUND OF LOBSTER MEAT, AND THE PRICE 9/10 BUCKS??!!
Are you OK?
I see the analogy you are trying to make, but unless you are grinding up a whole 1lb lobster (shells, guts, and all), your $5 a lb. is going to yield very very very little meat.
I think you came up with a good idea for a post, didn't think it thru, and... well, the result is not very good.
Lobster is cheaper now, to be sure. But a lb. of meat....gotta be 25/30 dollars.

SIKSUKR · 08-05-2009, 11:34 PM

I just googled lobster yield and the average is 17-21 % yield of meat to raw weight.So based on that lobster would be about $25 to 30 a lb.How much is in a typical L roll,dont know.

Argie's Wife · 08-06-2009, 12:06 AM

Celery in a lobsta roll?

As we say Down East... That would go ova like a farht in church....

SIKSUKR - I remember Pepper posting a coupla o' years back that they about broke even w/ the cost of the lobster rolls at Waldo's... where they really make they $$$ is on fries, etc. (side stuff). The price of lobster wasn't that much more then than it is today.

VtSteve · 08-07-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FatboyNH

Folks,

As much as I love lobster rolls, paying $13 - $17 for it today is absolutely rediculous. You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks. I have taken the liberty of buying lobsters this year cheap, boil them, mix in some celery and mayo, and voila.....the best lobster rolls anywhere, and for less than half the cost of what you all are paying. I hope you all enjoy your rolls. I sure am.

Just imagine how much profit goes into a 1/4 pound hamburger that sells for $8.95 at many places now

Imagine selling a bottle of Bud for $3 or even $4. That's $18 to $24 a six-pack

I remember reading an article years ago that broke out margins for restaurants. It went a long way towards explaining why so many restaurants that sprout up today serve Mexican food, chicken, and fries. I could sell most everything for half of what most places charge. But by the end of the month, I'd have no money for utilities, water, nor rent.

If Lobster rolls were so outrageously profitable, everyone would sell them. I think around here, there's only one place that has them $17.95, with too many fries. What I'd be selling more of is sugared water and fries. Next week, we review the margins on coffee

SIKSUKR · 08-07-2009, 10:10 AM

How about that dang water.$1 to $2 for a bottle of water and the crazy stuff is free right?

Argie's Wife · 08-07-2009, 10:52 AM

D'Angelo's lobster roll is quite good. Tried it last night, after working very late (they're open until 10p.m.) and didn't feel like cooking when I got home. I hadn't had a lobster roll in over 2 years. Guess it was just a "oh-what-the-heck" moment...

Got 2 medium subs with lettuce - Argie hadn't done supper yet, either. The lobster meat was very chunky - whole claws were found in mine a couple of times. The mayo was light - not over powering or soupy. The lettuce was a little rough - not as leafy as I'd like but more the white/stem part of the leaf. There was quite a bit of meat in the sub - it was big and well stocked. I think I would have preferred the roll vs. the sub just because of the lettuce and bread. However, I have no regrets and at $11.99* for a medium sub, I thought it was pretty fair! Ayah, good lobsta roll.

It's the damn 9% sales tax that's a rip-off!

*Go to www.dangelo.com for a coupon for $4.00 off 2 med or lg subs.

Cristen · 08-06-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Cristen, even though Kevins is a competitor......I bow when I drive by the place because his crabcakes are so good. Had lunch there monday and ordered two crabcake apps. Sammie had fish and chips. delicious.

Yes...the crabcakes are fantastic!

I go to the Village Kitchen often and would like to say you have the best breakfast around! I also want to give a thumbs up to a couple of the women who work there....Rhonda and Sherri. They do a great job and are always smiling!

FatboyNH · 08-06-2009, 09:00 AM

To all the naysayers,

I didn't say that a 1 pound lobster would yield 1 lb of meat. I mentioned 1 lb because some places claim that they put that in the rolls (non of these places are around the lake region). Most, however, put between 1/3 to 1/2 pound of lobster meat. I have pulled enough meat of a 1 lb lobster and made lobster rolls that equal or beat the amount of meat that most places give. If you don't believe me, try it for youself and compare it to Sawyers, Lobster Pound, Tamarack, etc. They are not giving you more than 1/2 pound of meat at most.

The real point I was making was if lobster is so cheap, why are prices for lobster meals still going up. Howver, after reading the responses here, it seems most of you don't really think about it and will pay higher prices just for convenience. Hey, it's your money. Just don't be surprised next year if lobster prices are higher and your rolls are now $20. Would you be willing to pay that much for convenience?

sa meredith · 08-06-2009, 09:09 AM

fatboy
You wrote:
You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks.

The equation you were using, was $5 a lb, so double it, and the roll should be $10. There is no question about it.

Just say that you did no think it thru. I believe it is obvious.

And I do agree the rolls in the Lakes Region are a bit pricey. But remember, they have 3 months to make their money.

07-22-2009, 07:16 PM	#1
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 347 Thanks: 3 Thanked 70 Times in 47 Posts	Lobster roll price Can someone who understands the restaurant business explain why on earth Lobster Rolls are going for $18? I just read in the Union Leader that Lobster prices are so low that some Maine Lobstermen are thinking of parking their boats until the price goes up. I remember the last year that Waldo Peppers was in the old location, their lobster roll was $10.95 or $11.95 and that included fries. I plan to boycott lobster rolls until the price is reasonable. As much as I love them I refuse to pay $18.

07-23-2009, 08:18 AM	#2
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	BEST lobster roll When the prices are down, I usually make it to the local supermarket and have them steam up 4 or 6 lobsters. I take them home and shuck them....cut them up...toast a fresh roll....stuff it and pour a little melted butter over the top and try not to devour it. The leftover gets chilled and I add a bit of Hellman's mayonnaise ( this makes a difference, the cheap mayonnaise is awful ) I never complain about having lobster rolls 2 days in a row!

07-26-2009, 01:31 PM	#6
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 347 Thanks: 3 Thanked 70 Times in 47 Posts	Red Hill Dairy Thats it! I am going to Red Hill for a Lobster Roll the next time I go to Center Harbor. Good reviews and the price is reasonable.

07-27-2009, 03:32 PM	#8
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,578 Thanks: 676 Thanked 682 Times in 348 Posts	Microwaving lobster Actually the microwave is the best method for cooking lobster. I've tried this several times...Always perfect. Read the following link... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DGJU3QL1P1.DTL

07-28-2009, 09:21 PM	#10
BlackCatIslander Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 201 Thanks: 52 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	Another Vote for Sam and Rosie's There may some as good as Sam and Rosie's but I doubt that any are better,

07-23-2009, 09:02 AM	#3
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,915 Thanks: 338 Thanked 1,692 Times in 594 Posts	Phantom is right...Hellman's makes the difference...and Taz is right too..lobster is cheap this year and our lobster rolls at the Red Hill Dari are still $11.95 with fries....same as last year.

07-25-2009, 09:59 PM	#5
VtSteve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,320 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 230 Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts	Hey Mike, finally getting over your way next month. We weren't sure about the Friday afternoon, but on August 21st we're heading to the LP for drinks and dinner. Anything exciting going on then? Love to meet you.

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07-27-2009, 09:39 PM	#9
VtSteve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,320 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 230 Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts	Do you bake or broil lizard? Sounds great Mike.

07-30-2009, 11:06 AM	#11
Cristen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 143 Thanks: 25 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Kevin's Cafe in Moultonborough has amazing lobster rolls (and crab cakes too).

07-30-2009, 01:52 PM	#12
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,915 Thanks: 338 Thanked 1,692 Times in 594 Posts	Cristen, even though Kevins is a competitor......I bow when I drive by the place because his crabcakes are so good. Had lunch there monday and ordered two crabcake apps. Sammie had fish and chips. delicious.

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07-30-2009, 11:05 PM	#17
Meredith lady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 217 Thanks: 290 Thanked 138 Times in 26 Posts	thank you! Samiam...for your comment on our crabcakes..we love the VK and the Dari as well...both are well run, and the food is fabulous!!

08-05-2009, 01:05 PM	#18
FatboyNH Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Folks, As much as I love lobster rolls, paying $13 - $17 for it today is absolutely rediculous. You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks. I have taken the liberty of buying lobsters this year cheap, boil them, mix in some celery and mayo, and voila.....the best lobster rolls anywhere, and for less than half the cost of what you all are paying. I hope you all enjoy your rolls. I sure am.

08-05-2009, 03:12 PM	#20
FatboyNH Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Convenience is one thing, price gouging is another. If you want to pay double for convenience, go for it. I will opt not to partake in overpriced lobster (and in some cases langostino) filled hotdog rolls. Just an FYI if you decide to make it yourself, if you shave the celery real thin, you hardly notice it but it adds a slightly better texture to the lobster mix. Enjoy.

08-05-2009, 03:34 PM	#21
NonVoting Taxpayer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 98 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 10 Posts	Just setting the Record Straight FatboyNH Better check your math. If you ever picked a pound of Lobster Meat, you would know it takes five to six 1 1/2lb lobsters to get 1 pound of lobster meat. Even at $4.99 a pound it would cost $38-$45 to make a pound. Usually Cheaper to buy it than to pick your own. On top of all this, $4.99 a pound is hard to find.

08-05-2009, 11:34 PM	#25
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Yield I just googled lobster yield and the average is 17-21 % yield of meat to raw weight.So based on that lobster would be about $25 to 30 a lb.How much is in a typical L roll,dont know. __________________ SIKSUKR

08-06-2009, 12:06 AM	#26
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	Don't you go muckin' up a good lobsta roll... Celery in a lobsta roll? As we say Down East... That would go ova like a farht in church.... SIKSUKR - I remember Pepper posting a coupla o' years back that they about broke even w/ the cost of the lobster rolls at Waldo's... where they really make they $$$ is on fries, etc. (side stuff). The price of lobster wasn't that much more then than it is today.

08-07-2009, 10:10 AM	#28
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Water? How about that dang water.$1 to $2 for a bottle of water and the crazy stuff is free right? __________________ SIKSUKR

08-07-2009, 10:52 AM	#29
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	D'Angelo's does 'em good... D'Angelo's lobster roll is quite good. Tried it last night, after working very late (they're open until 10p.m.) and didn't feel like cooking when I got home. I hadn't had a lobster roll in over 2 years. Guess it was just a "oh-what-the-heck" moment... Got 2 medium subs with lettuce - Argie hadn't done supper yet, either. The lobster meat was very chunky - whole claws were found in mine a couple of times. The mayo was light - not over powering or soupy. The lettuce was a little rough - not as leafy as I'd like but more the white/stem part of the leaf. There was quite a bit of meat in the sub - it was big and well stocked. I think I would have preferred the roll vs. the sub just because of the lettuce and bread. However, I have no regrets and at $11.99* for a medium sub, I thought it was pretty fair! Ayah, good lobsta roll. It's the damn 9% sales tax that's a rip-off! *Go to www.dangelo.com for a coupon for $4.00 off 2 med or lg subs.

08-06-2009, 09:00 AM	#31
FatboyNH Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To all the naysayers, I didn't say that a 1 pound lobster would yield 1 lb of meat. I mentioned 1 lb because some places claim that they put that in the rolls (non of these places are around the lake region). Most, however, put between 1/3 to 1/2 pound of lobster meat. I have pulled enough meat of a 1 lb lobster and made lobster rolls that equal or beat the amount of meat that most places give. If you don't believe me, try it for youself and compare it to Sawyers, Lobster Pound, Tamarack, etc. They are not giving you more than 1/2 pound of meat at most. The real point I was making was if lobster is so cheap, why are prices for lobster meals still going up. Howver, after reading the responses here, it seems most of you don't really think about it and will pay higher prices just for convenience. Hey, it's your money. Just don't be surprised next year if lobster prices are higher and your rolls are now $20. Would you be willing to pay that much for convenience?

08-06-2009, 09:09 AM	#32
sa meredith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 32 Thanked 352 Times in 137 Posts	Ok fatboy You wrote: You are all being had. Lobsters are available for under $5 a pound. The price for a lobster roll, even if they fill it with 1 lb of lobster meat (which I highly doubt) should run you no more than $9 - $10 bucks. The equation you were using, was $5 a lb, so double it, and the roll should be $10. There is no question about it. Just say that you did no think it thru. I believe it is obvious. And I do agree the rolls in the Lakes Region are a bit pricey. But remember, they have 3 months to make their money.