Sound Levels in relation to Speed Limits

Dave R · 08-21-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy

I know this first hand as I received a ticket on my snowmobile for an aftermarket exhaust. I knew exactly what the law stated and knew it was basically unenforceable so I pleaded not guilty and won. Needless to say, I don't ride with an aftermarket exhaust anymore on my snowmobile because I don't want to go through the hassle, plus trails are always in danger of being closed because they are on private land. So who won in this instance? I didn't have to pay a fine, but it kind of forced me no to ride with a loud exhaust anymore? On the other hand, the lake nor the roads will never be shut down.

Sounds like the state won. If you had to appear in court to fight an "unenforceable" ticket every time you operated a loud vehicle, even if not convicted, you've already proven that the hassle of a court appearance will make you take the loud pipes off. When cops stop you for loud pipes, it's not like most speeding tickets that are just revenue enhancement, you are being stopped becuase they want you to lose the loud pipes, the fine is irrelevant to them.

Shreddy · 08-21-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave R

Sounds like the state won. If you had to appear in court to fight an "unenforceable" ticket every time you operated a loud vehicle, even if not convicted, you've already proven that the hassle of a court appearance will make you take the loud pipes off. When cops stop you for loud pipes, it's not like most speeding tickets that are just revenue enhancement, you are being stopped becuase they want you to lose the loud pipes, the fine is irrelevant to them.

Exactly my point when I asked who won...It's most certainly much more of an issue with snowmobiles rather than boats however because snowmobiles are operated on PRIVATE land where boats are operated on PUBLIC bodies of water. Landowners can shut down access to a trail at any time they want. This doesn't hold true to lakes...

BroadHopper · 08-21-2009, 10:21 AM

I have DARPA inserts in the rubber casing of my exhaust. At the time about 20 years ago, that was the latest technology. It uses the water flowing through the exhaust to quiet the engine noise. The faster I go the more water going through the exhaust, the quieter it gets. When I start my engine, it is wicked loud and gets the attention of nearby MPO. I have a piece of paper stating I pass the 'flyby' test. I carry it all the time. If they pass a law that I have to be tested at idle, I am history.
When I first got the boat, I had switchable captain's call. It would be wicked quiet at the docks and in the bays. Once I am on the Broads I will switch it open. I had to get rid of the switchable not only because it is against the law, but to allow room for the DARPA.
What I am saying is if I had both. I can be quiet all the time. Unfortunately the law says otherwise. The law sometimes defeats its own purpose.

4Fun · 08-21-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy

Exactly my point when I asked who won...It's most certainly much more of an issue with snowmobiles rather than boats however because snowmobiles are operated on PRIVATE land where boats are operated on PUBLIC bodies of water. Landowners can shut down access to a trail at any time they want. This doesn't hold true to lakes...

I am glad to see you have a stock exhaust now. Thanks.

While you quote is technically true I would argue the state/town has limited access to the PUBLIC lake in many ways in the past 10 years.

No Rafting, No overnight anchoring, No loud exhaust, No speeding, High launch fees, etc Some of this is good some not so good...

Lots of rules which in turn limit your access to the lake.

Keep in mind the people really offended by noise seem to have more time and money than the people that generate it. This is not a good thing.

Shreddy · 08-21-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Fun

I am glad to see you have a stock exhaust now. Thanks.

While you quote is technically true I would argue the state/town has limited access to the PUBLIC lake in many ways in the past 10 years.

No Rafting, No overnight anchoring, No loud exhaust, No speeding, High launch fees, etc Some of this is good some not so good...

Lots of rules which in turn limit your access to the lake.

Keep in mind the people really offended by noise seem to have more time and money than the people that generate it. This is not a good thing.

That last line always seems to be the case no matter what your dealing with. The opposing side always seems to have something going for them.

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BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,587 Thanks: 3,228 Thanked 1,107 Times in 797 Posts	Old technology I have DARPA inserts in the rubber casing of my exhaust. At the time about 20 years ago, that was the latest technology. It uses the water flowing through the exhaust to quiet the engine noise. The faster I go the more water going through the exhaust, the quieter it gets. When I start my engine, it is wicked loud and gets the attention of nearby MPO. I have a piece of paper stating I pass the 'flyby' test. I carry it all the time. If they pass a law that I have to be tested at idle, I am history. When I first got the boat, I had switchable captain's call. It would be wicked quiet at the docks and in the bays. Once I am on the Broads I will switch it open. I had to get rid of the switchable not only because it is against the law, but to allow room for the DARPA. What I am saying is if I had both. I can be quiet all the time. Unfortunately the law says otherwise. The law sometimes defeats its own purpose. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.