Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Boating
Home Forums Gallery Webcams Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Calendar Register FAQDonate Members List Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-16-2009, 05:59 PM   #1
ApS
Senior Member
 
ApS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro
Posts: 5,938
Thanks: 2,205
Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VtSteve View Post
"...I rarely see high HP boats doing watersports, occasionally, but very rare...I must admit, I haven't seen a GF boat pulling a skier...Are you saying boat sizes should be limited for skiing...?"
1) Watersports are probably far more popular on Lake Winnipesaukee than on Lake Champlain. (Plus, we don't have Lamprey eels hanging onto our boats here. ).

2) I don't mind seeing oversized boats pulling tubers from town to town, as anyone can see on the Broads any weekend. The constant wake environment there sure beats repeatedly crossing their own wakes in our inlets and bays.

3) Boat sizes should be self-limiting as to where they visit: it's common sense.

4) Is a new BAJA ~36' a "high HP" boat?

In my view, it is a "high HP" GFBL: One visited here for several days. The prop it had was awful for skiing. Even if it had been quiet, the view would have annoyed most savvy observers. FWIW, I'll take photos of them next season.

Quote:
Originally Posted by VtSteve View Post
"...So before this law changed, there were a lot of collisions being reported on the lake...?"
Who's to know? A close call is bad enough. Longtime readers here will recall that none other than Bill Marriott nearly ran my kayak down—in reverse!

My BIL tells of a neighbor's all-white GFBL nearly backing over their kayak when they were close to shore.

Excepting Evenstar, how do kayakers report their near-misses except to other kayakers or newspapers? Similar instances will appear in our local NHLakes and Mountains newspapers. (Most complain through a letter).

Quote:
Originally Posted by VtSteve View Post
"...I'm not being argumentative here APS, I just haven't seen anything that supports your cause..."
Another boater more savvy than I am said it much better than I have, but let's not go there.
__________________
Is it
"Common Sense" isn't.
ApS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 07:56 PM   #2
VtSteve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,320
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 230
Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts
Default In other words APS

You want a pond? Seriously, I agree that a 36' Baja (with a speed prop) is a bad choice for watersports. Not to mention the huge wake it leaves forever towing a tube


Lampreys are far less visible now that they actually did something about them. You actually have to bite the bullet and work at it, just as with millfoil and all that.

Look, I know accidents happen, just like stupidity happens. I also know you can't cure stupid. I'm all for safety and common sense APS, believe me. I also am not a bif fan of boats lower than planing speed roughing me up from their wakes (my bot is 22', not 36'). I have experienced the Mad Wakes before, trust me on this.

If there are kayaks being run over, in reverse no less, I'd blame the captain, not the boat. You like to sail, and I have to trip over many a large sailboat just to get out of my bay. I don't begrudge them their right to sail on a great sailing lake. That's the difference between you and me. One of many I presume. It's not your friggin lake, and if you have legitimate gripes, by all means, report them. Including the noisy boat that broke the laws.

BTW, I reported a Montreal Sailboat that dumped his tanks heading Northboud out on the main lake here to the Coast Guard. I would have preferred to either impound his boat, or send a missile his way. But alas, I didn't have either at my disposal. If we banned sailboats here, life would be pristine, quiet, serene, and far easier. But somehow, we persevere. Thorughout all od this, we've had several fun runs and many fast boats (100 mph plus) sharing the lake with no issues. I'd take a dozen more of them over these absolute idiots in bowriders towing tubers through a beach area.

You of little facts, have a great day.
VtSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 10:54 PM   #3
Airwaves
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm right here!
Posts: 1,153
Thanks: 9
Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts
Default

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Quote:
Originally Posted by brk-lnt
While I'm sure this incident could be pimped to support any number of new nanny-state laws, I would be shocked if a water skier was being pulled at anywhere near 45MPH.
_____

Depending on the weight of the skier and the number of skis used, you can waterski at half that speed.

For a full-sized adult, it's "work", but it's still done and enjoyed by thousands. In considering the full history of the sport, perhaps enjoyed by millions!
Originally posted by VtSteve
Quote:
I think most recreational skiers go around 25 mph to 35 mph. I really don't see your point above. I assumed BRK was pointing out that most do not ski near 45 mph. Unnecessary drama?
But then it gets really odd...APS links to Les Hall's comments from what appears to be an out of state cruiser forum talking about speed limits.
Quote:
Another boater more savvy than I am said it much better than I have, but let's not go there.
What has that got to do with pulling a water skiier? Anything to muddy the waters heh APS?
Airwaves is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 10:59 PM   #4
VtSteve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,320
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 230
Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts
Default

but, butttttt, APS has an in here. He may be waay out there and FOS, but he still gets posted.
VtSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2009, 12:12 AM   #5
Mee-n-Mac
Senior Member
 
Mee-n-Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,943
Thanks: 23
Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts
Arrow Another theory that doesn't pan out

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acres per Second View Post
Who's to know? A close call is bad enough. Longtime readers here will recall that none other than Bill Marriott nearly ran my kayak down—in reverse!

My BIL tells of a neighbor's all-white GFBL nearly backing over their kayak when they were close to shore.

Excepting Evenstar, how do kayakers report their near-misses except to other kayakers or newspapers? Similar instances will appear in our local NHLakes and Mountains newspapers. (Most complain through a letter).
IOW you have no idea as to how the raising of the $$ limit has, or hasn't, affected the reporting of boat/boat or boat/kayak collisions. As far as near misses go, there is no $$ damage done (it's that whole miss thing) and so there hasn't, now or years ago, been any compulsory reporting of them. And as far as the non-misses goes, can you imagine the victim not reporting the incident (assuming they thought they were guilt free) ? So the stats on the lake aren't skewed by the change.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acres per Second View Post
Another boater more savvy than I am said it much better than I have, but let's not go there.
So what limit does Les Hall think would be worse that the present 45 MPH ? Would it be so low as to preclude ... waterskiing ? Hey mebbe that should be applied on Sunapee. Seems they have a problem. Or might it just be that speed isn't the real problem ... naaaah can't be that.
__________________
Mee'n'Mac
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH
Mee-n-Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mee-n-Mac For This Useful Post:
Resident 2B (09-17-2009)
Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.21288 seconds