Debating the Speed Limit – Helpful or Not?

OCDACTIVE · 09-22-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Gal

Guess I was being silly about hoping not to have a debate. It really isn’t the debate that I have an issue with, it is the nastiness that so often ensues.

This morning I actually started with nine choices for the poll, but a respected member of the Forum recommended that I narrow it down considerably.

Would the following questions make for a better poll?

No, I do not care about a speed limit on the lake, so these discussions do not affect me.

No, it hasn’t altered my views at all.

Yes, I was in favor of a speed limit, but now I am against it.

Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I am in favor of it.

Yes, I was for a speed limit, but now I think only certain areas of the lake should have a speed limit.

Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I think only certain areas of the lake should have a speed limit.

Yes, I was for a whole lake speed limit, but now I think a compromised speed limit that is a bit higher than the current one might be better.

Yes, I was against the speed limit, but now I think a compromised speed limit that is a bit higher than the current one might work out better.

I like this MUCH better. Would give a much more overall idea where people stand.

Airwaves · 09-22-2009, 01:29 PM

I appreciate what you're trying to do Rattlesnake Gal, but even those 8 questions still assume the reader had a position on SL before the debate started.

What I am saying is that the debate shaped my opinion I didn't come into the debate with an opinion one way or another.

I can't believe I am the only one.

KonaChick · 09-22-2009, 01:48 PM

To be honest when I first learned of the Speed Limit Law legistlature was trying to pass I did not think of it as a big deal at all, what could be bad about speed limits. The more I educated myself on this law and read posts here I quickly understood it had nothing to do with "speed" at all. I'm grateful to have had the opportunity to read both sides and come up with my own conclusion.

Rattlesnake Gal · 09-22-2009, 01:59 PM

This is getting tough with only 10 poll questions.

Okay Airwaves, what if a poll were to say...

For a very long time now, the speed limit debate has been a very hot, controversial topic on the Forum. I’m curious - since the debate started, have these discussions helped you to form an opinion or have they changed your views in any way?

No, I do not care about a speed limit on the lake, so these discussions do not affect me.

No, it hasn’t altered my views at all.

Yes, it helped me decide that I am in favor of a speed limit.

Yes, it helped me decide that I do not support a speed limit.

Yes, I was in favor of a speed limit, but now I am against it.

Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I am in favor of it.

Yes, I was for a speed limit, but now I think only certain areas of the lake should have a speed limit.

Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I think only certain areas of the lake should have a speed limit.

Yes, I was for a whole lake speed limit, but now I think a compromised speed limit that is a bit higher than the current one might be better.

Yes, I was against the speed limit, but now I think a compromised speed limit that is a bit higher than the current one might work out better.

jmen24 · 09-22-2009, 03:01 PM

I have one suggestion and that presents a question.
This poll or "revised" poll has questioned that would need to be answered by potential non-boating folks as well as folks that would not touch the SL sub-forum with a 10 foot poll.

I would suggest that in order to get a wider view of the members of this forum regarding the debates that have taken place, this needs to be ?stickied? at the top of the General discussion forum with a lock on posting.

That is the question, can Don lock a poll so that it cannot be posted in? That way the people that do not want to hear it, can vote and move on there way, the folks that do there are plenty of threads to suit their fancy.

This expanded view will also give Don the feelings of the majority of the members and whether he would entertain allowing these debates to continue. Not my view, but it came to me that this would be a side affect to this.

View Poll Results: Debating the Speed Limit – Helpful or Not?
No, it hasn’t altered my views at all.	106	79.70%
Yes, I was in favor of a speed limit, but now I am against it.	14	10.53%
Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I am in favor of it.	13	9.77%
Voters: 133. You may not vote on this poll

09-22-2009, 01:59 PM	#4
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Potential Poll This is getting tough with only 10 poll questions. Okay Airwaves, what if a poll were to say... For a very long time now, the speed limit debate has been a very hot, controversial topic on the Forum. I’m curious - since the debate started, have these discussions helped you to form an opinion or have they changed your views in any way? No, I do not care about a speed limit on the lake, so these discussions do not affect me. No, it hasn’t altered my views at all. Yes, it helped me decide that I am in favor of a speed limit. Yes, it helped me decide that I do not support a speed limit. Yes, I was in favor of a speed limit, but now I am against it. Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I am in favor of it. Yes, I was for a speed limit, but now I think only certain areas of the lake should have a speed limit. Yes, I was against a speed limit, but now I think only certain areas of the lake should have a speed limit. Yes, I was for a whole lake speed limit, but now I think a compromised speed limit that is a bit higher than the current one might be better. Yes, I was against the speed limit, but now I think a compromised speed limit that is a bit higher than the current one might work out better.

09-22-2009, 03:01 PM	#5
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	A suggestion and a question I have one suggestion and that presents a question. This poll or "revised" poll has questioned that would need to be answered by potential non-boating folks as well as folks that would not touch the SL sub-forum with a 10 foot poll. I would suggest that in order to get a wider view of the members of this forum regarding the debates that have taken place, this needs to be ?stickied? at the top of the General discussion forum with a lock on posting. That is the question, can Don lock a poll so that it cannot be posted in? That way the people that do not want to hear it, can vote and move on there way, the folks that do there are plenty of threads to suit their fancy. This expanded view will also give Don the feelings of the majority of the members and whether he would entertain allowing these debates to continue. Not my view, but it came to me that this would be a side affect to this.

09-22-2009, 01:29 PM	#2
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	I appreciate what you're trying to do Rattlesnake Gal, but even those 8 questions still assume the reader had a position on SL before the debate started. What I am saying is that the debate shaped my opinion I didn't come into the debate with an opinion one way or another. I can't believe I am the only one.

09-22-2009, 01:48 PM	#3
KonaChick Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 518 Thanks: 19 Thanked 62 Times in 15 Posts	To be honest when I first learned of the Speed Limit Law legistlature was trying to pass I did not think of it as a big deal at all, what could be bad about speed limits. The more I educated myself on this law and read posts here I quickly understood it had nothing to do with "speed" at all. I'm grateful to have had the opportunity to read both sides and come up with my own conclusion.

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