Who do you trust for accurate weather?

SumoDog · 12-08-2009, 07:24 PM

It seems everyone is always off - WMUR overstates snowfall but gets the temp. - weather.com gets the snowfall - but misses other aspects - who do you guys think does the best job?

wifi · 12-09-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog

It seems everyone is always off - WMUR overstates snowfall but gets the temp. - weather.com gets the snowfall - but misses other aspects - who do you guys think does the best job?

If I were you, I'd get the temp from WMUR, snowfall from weather.com, etc....

Merrymeeting · 12-09-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog

who do you guys think does the best job?

Our own CanisLupusArctos, Rose, and others who give us commentary specific to the lake and our microclimate!

jmen24 · 12-09-2009, 10:02 AM

100% agree with Merrymeeting, I love to read the posts from the local forecasters. The slightly more technical speak I think is clearer than the smoothed over speak of TV forecasts. Plus IMHO WMUR does not have a clue about anything north of Concord, as far as weather and news goes, its kind of like the high school AV club, lol sorry.

I really like the NWS for my forecasts, I just have not figured out how to modify the precipitation amounts to show snow amounts as opposed to base water content.

mbhoward · 12-09-2009, 11:12 AM

Try

http://www.noaa.gov

You can type in your zip code and the forecast is pretty good. I haven't kept records to see how far off the predictions are from what actually happens but since my (our) tax dollars are paying for the service, it's worth while to get something back for the money.

fatlazyless · 12-09-2009, 11:50 AM

That's a fast & simple to use weather info source......thankyou Tuftonboro...... www.noaa.gov says for this afternoon: 7-11" Meredith, & 6-10" for Waterville Valley, 9-13" Wolfeboro, plus it lists the latitude, longitude, and elevation for your zip code?

Do you know what your local latitude, longitude and elevation is?

gtagrip · 12-09-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mbhoward

Try

http://www.noaa.gov

You can type in your zip code and the forecast is pretty good. I haven't kept records to see how far off the predictions are from what actually happens but since my (our) tax dollars are paying for the service, it's worth while to get something back for the money.

Ditto! I find www.noaa.gov to be the most accurate. They pretty much called this one correct on Monday!

mbhoward · 12-09-2009, 01:44 PM

My data when I type in 03816 is:

Lat/Lon: 43.71°N 71.26°W Elevation:695 ft

They are calling for 9-13 total (same as Wolfeboro) and we have at least 8 right now, maybe 9. I've been out shovelling / blowing and the wind is picking up so I think the bulk of everything has fallen (1345) and the front is passing. Nice to be on the tail end. I'm on Rt #171 and the only thing moving on the road is the state plow.

chipj29 · 12-09-2009, 02:10 PM

Everywhere. I do not trust a single source. With the internet, you can get as many forecasts as you need. There are many good weather forums out there as well.
I usually take the average of WMUR, WHDH, WBZ and FOX25 to come up with my own number.

corollaman · 12-14-2009, 01:14 PM

I don't trust what any of these weather guys say. I go by what it's doing outside at a given time.

fatlazyless · 12-15-2009, 08:50 AM

www.noaa.gov says the Waterville Valley 03215 stats are:
lat 43.96
lon 71.5
elev 1860'

It snowed about two inches last night.

The Waterville Valley ski area snow phone 236-4144 says they have 14 trails open. What it does not say is that there is just one route open, Tippiecanoe, from top to bottom. So, in ski-phone lingo one route down = 14 trails.......$49...... & xc trails are 20% partially open for $10...

....

Grant · 12-17-2009, 02:42 PM

Know who I trust for weather forecasting?

Myself. And only marginally.

All you need to do is look at the radar online, and see where stuff is moving, and where the fronts and pressure systems are going.

Weather forecasting remains, for the most part, voodoo jive-ass baloney, at least when it comes to my "other" neck of the woods down here. Seems we're at the fulcrum/collision point for every weather system. Stuff comes down from the north, up from the south, and always seems to merge right over SE Pennsylvania. If there's a rain/snow line, it will be floating somewhere around this area. Weatherman calls for a foot of snow, and we get 3" of rain. Calls for sun, we get thunderstorms. They call for cold winter and tons of snow, and we have weeks in the 60s. They even drove some poor sod out of town -- up to new York -- after he predicted the storm of the century, and we got nothing! Hilarious.

SIKSUKR · 12-17-2009, 02:46 PM

Except I would exchange Pennsylvania for New Hampshire the rest would of his post would apply exactly.

AC2717 · 12-17-2009, 07:00 PM

I was wondering if CLR and Rose could shed some light on what this storm is actually going to do. I am down here in MA waiting to strap the plow on. I am just southeast of Boston

Can I get some love on this one?

tummyman · 12-17-2009, 10:44 PM

In two words... always trust "THE WINDOW".

chipj29 · 12-18-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AC2717

I was wondering if CLR and Rose could shed some light on what this storm is actually going to do. I am down here in MA waiting to strap the plow on. I am just southeast of Boston

Can I get some love on this one?

Southeastern MA looks to get a pretty good storm. The further north you go the less snow you will see.

gtxrider · 12-18-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grant

Know who I trust for weather forecasting?

Myself. And only marginally.

All you need to do is look at the radar online, and see where stuff is moving, and where the fronts and pressure systems are going.

Weather forecasting remains, for the most part, voodoo jive-ass baloney, at least when it comes to my "other" neck of the woods down here. Seems we're at the fulcrum/collision point for every weather system. Stuff comes down from the north, up from the south, and always seems to merge right over SE Pennsylvania. If there's a rain/snow line, it will be floating somewhere around this area. Weatherman calls for a foot of snow, and we get 3" of rain. Calls for sun, we get thunderstorms. They call for cold winter and tons of snow, and we have weeks in the 60s. They even drove some poor sod out of town -- up to new York -- after he predicted the storm of the century, and we got nothing! Hilarious.

Ya if could be wrong as much as the weather man but that is not the case. Its whether the wind blows more to the east or whether the front stalls....

Grant, do you trust your Home Boy Punxsutawney Phil?

Could be a big snow here in NJ tomorrow!

Winni-Retired · 12-18-2009, 07:29 PM

It's raining very hard here on Topsail Island, NC... The sea is very angry tonight.

We are delaying our return to NH until monday due to the " end of the world " snow forecast, one gets for the DelMarVa area .... the local NC forecast calls for a foot in the Richmond, VA to DC area.

Our plan was to close the condo early tomorrow morning and head north for the holidays .............. but I guess that is why they made Monday's

Shore Driver · 12-30-2009, 11:24 AM

Matt Noyes from NECN is good. Nicely snow-biased.

Pineedles · 12-30-2009, 02:33 PM

Resident 2B on the winni forum.

no-engine · 12-30-2009, 04:14 PM

Agree: NECN, whomever is working at the moment.

I also look at various free apps on my iPhone!

BTW: I don't normally watch Chan 6 from Maine this morning, BUT was saying a 3-day nor'easter..........

Pricestavern · 12-30-2009, 10:44 PM

My Dad (though no longer broadcasting). Always trust a Navy man.

ApS · 12-31-2009, 05:42 AM

And that's a fact!

I've found a trailer-boater who always has a four-hour window on the fair weather he prefers for fishing. Otherwise, I'll check the usual sites in the evening, then again in the early morning—often different—and then check the skies at daybreak.

If you have the right kind of clouds, you can find a similar "window" at any time of day.

This'nThat · 01-04-2010, 07:15 PM

I get most of my forecasts directly from Al Gore. Track his movements -- wherever he goes, he causes Global Warming snow.

The rest of the time I get my forecasts directly from the U.N.'s IPCCC -- you know, the international wealth-distribution wing of the U.N. You can't rely upon their 2-10 day forecasts, but .... using the same models, they are spot-on accurate for 50 to 100 years out. Which is why they need our money for the next millienium, to adjust their data to fit their models.

tis · 01-04-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by This'nThat

I get most of my forecasts directly from Al Gore. Track his movements -- wherever he goes, he causes Global Warming snow.

The rest of the time I get my forecasts directly from the U.N.'s IPCCC -- you know, the international wealth-distribution wing of the U.N. You can't rely upon their 2-10 day forecasts, but .... using the same models, they are spot-on accurate for 50 to 100 years out. Which is why they need our money for the next millienium, to adjust their data to fit their models.

I just loved that remark about Gore!

trfour · 01-04-2010, 08:32 PM

Usually it's the other way around in that they are comedians before they become politicians.

jmen24 · 01-05-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by corollaman

I don't trust what any of these weather guys say. I go by what it's doing outside at a given time.

You must carry many changes of clothing with you. LOL sorry, I just could not resist.
Unfortunately it snows at least a dusting at my house almost everyday, so I would be pretty bundled up all the time through the winter.

Grant has it correct, look at the radar and knowing the specifics of your area and how the objects around you affect your weather is the best way to go. It gets me through golf season, dodging rain storms around MT Kearsarge, Sunapee and Ragged. I live and play in the valley below.

12-09-2009, 11:50 AM	#6
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	That's a fast & simple to use weather info source......thankyou Tuftonboro...... www.noaa.gov says for this afternoon: 7-11" Meredith, & 6-10" for Waterville Valley, 9-13" Wolfeboro, plus it lists the latitude, longitude, and elevation for your zip code? Do you know what your local latitude, longitude and elevation is? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

12-09-2009, 02:10 PM	#9
chipj29 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bow Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 521 Thanked 308 Times in 162 Posts	Everywhere. I do not trust a single source. With the internet, you can get as many forecasts as you need. There are many good weather forums out there as well. I usually take the average of WMUR, WHDH, WBZ and FOX25 to come up with my own number. __________________ Getting ready for winter!

12-14-2009, 01:14 PM	#10
corollaman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 181 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	nobody. I don't trust what any of these weather guys say. I go by what it's doing outside at a given time.

12-15-2009, 08:50 AM	#11
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	www.noaa.gov says the Waterville Valley 03215 stats are: lat 43.96 lon 71.5 elev 1860' It snowed about two inches last night. The Waterville Valley ski area snow phone 236-4144 says they have 14 trails open. What it does not say is that there is just one route open, Tippiecanoe, from top to bottom. So, in ski-phone lingo one route down = 14 trails.......$49...... & xc trails are 20% partially open for $10... .... __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

12-17-2009, 02:42 PM	#12
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,500 Thanks: 375 Thanked 230 Times in 124 Posts	Know who I trust for weather forecasting? Myself. And only marginally. All you need to do is look at the radar online, and see where stuff is moving, and where the fronts and pressure systems are going. Weather forecasting remains, for the most part, voodoo jive-ass baloney, at least when it comes to my "other" neck of the woods down here. Seems we're at the fulcrum/collision point for every weather system. Stuff comes down from the north, up from the south, and always seems to merge right over SE Pennsylvania. If there's a rain/snow line, it will be floating somewhere around this area. Weatherman calls for a foot of snow, and we get 3" of rain. Calls for sun, we get thunderstorms. They call for cold winter and tons of snow, and we have weeks in the 60s. They even drove some poor sod out of town -- up to new York -- after he predicted the storm of the century, and we got nothing! Hilarious. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

12-08-2009, 07:24 PM	#1
SumoDog Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Who do you trust for accurate weather? It seems everyone is always off - WMUR overstates snowfall but gets the temp. - weather.com gets the snowfall - but misses other aspects - who do you guys think does the best job?

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12-09-2009, 10:02 AM	#4
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	100% agree with Merrymeeting, I love to read the posts from the local forecasters. The slightly more technical speak I think is clearer than the smoothed over speak of TV forecasts. Plus IMHO WMUR does not have a clue about anything north of Concord, as far as weather and news goes, its kind of like the high school AV club, lol sorry. I really like the NWS for my forecasts, I just have not figured out how to modify the precipitation amounts to show snow amounts as opposed to base water content.

12-09-2009, 11:12 AM	#5
mbhoward Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 34 Thanks: 33 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	Try http://www.noaa.gov You can type in your zip code and the forecast is pretty good. I haven't kept records to see how far off the predictions are from what actually happens but since my (our) tax dollars are paying for the service, it's worth while to get something back for the money.

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12-09-2009, 01:44 PM	#8
mbhoward Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 34 Thanks: 33 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	My data when I type in 03816 is: Lat/Lon: 43.71°N 71.26°W Elevation:695 ft They are calling for 9-13 total (same as Wolfeboro) and we have at least 8 right now, maybe 9. I've been out shovelling / blowing and the wind is picking up so I think the bulk of everything has fallen (1345) and the front is passing. Nice to be on the tail end. I'm on Rt #171 and the only thing moving on the road is the state plow.

12-17-2009, 02:46 PM	#13
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	What Grant said Except I would exchange Pennsylvania for New Hampshire the rest would of his post would apply exactly. __________________ SIKSUKR

12-17-2009, 07:00 PM	#14
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 755 Thanked 355 Times in 267 Posts	Soo I was wondering if CLR and Rose could shed some light on what this storm is actually going to do. I am down here in MA waiting to strap the plow on. I am just southeast of Boston Can I get some love on this one? __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

12-17-2009, 10:44 PM	#15
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 839 Thanks: 258 Thanked 687 Times in 244 Posts	In two words... always trust "THE WINDOW".

12-18-2009, 07:29 PM	#18
Winni-Retired Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SE Mass / Lake Posts: 125 Thanks: 96 Thanked 102 Times in 22 Posts	Weekend storm ... 18 Dec It's raining very hard here on Topsail Island, NC... The sea is very angry tonight. We are delaying our return to NH until monday due to the " end of the world " snow forecast, one gets for the DelMarVa area .... the local NC forecast calls for a foot in the Richmond, VA to DC area. Our plan was to close the condo early tomorrow morning and head north for the holidays .............. but I guess that is why they made Monday's

12-30-2009, 11:24 AM	#19
Shore Driver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tolland CT Posts: 194 Thanks: 20 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Matt Noyes from NECN is good. Nicely snow-biased.

12-30-2009, 02:33 PM	#20
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 668 Times in 367 Posts	Who do I trust? Resident 2B on the winni forum.

12-30-2009, 04:14 PM	#21
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Agree: NECN, whomever is working at the moment. I also look at various free apps on my iPhone! BTW: I don't normally watch Chan 6 from Maine this morning, BUT was saying a 3-day nor'easter..........

12-30-2009, 10:44 PM	#22
Pricestavern Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Valencia, Spain (formerly Rattlesnake Isle) Posts: 389 Thanks: 135 Thanked 142 Times in 82 Posts	Weather Trust My Dad (though no longer broadcasting). Always trust a Navy man.

12-31-2009, 05:42 AM	#23
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 2,205 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	My Dad, too. And that's a fact! I've found a trailer-boater who always has a four-hour window on the fair weather he prefers for fishing. Otherwise, I'll check the usual sites in the evening, then again in the early morning—often different—and then check the skies at daybreak. If you have the right kind of clouds, you can find a similar "window" at any time of day.

01-04-2010, 07:15 PM	#24
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	I get most of my forecasts directly from Al Gore. Track his movements -- wherever he goes, he causes Global Warming snow. The rest of the time I get my forecasts directly from the U.N.'s IPCCC -- you know, the international wealth-distribution wing of the U.N. You can't rely upon their 2-10 day forecasts, but .... using the same models, they are spot-on accurate for 50 to 100 years out. Which is why they need our money for the next millienium, to adjust their data to fit their models.

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01-04-2010, 08:32 PM	#26
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Me Too tis... Usually it's the other way around in that they are comedians before they become politicians. __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html