Open Marinas?

jeffk · 10-27-2009, 07:48 PM

I'm keeping my boat in much later this year. Which marinas continue to pump gas until just before Thanksgiving?

Greene's Basin Girl · 10-27-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffk

I'm keeping my boat in much later this year. Which marinas continue to pump gas until just before Thanksgiving?

I know Lakeport is one.

JPC · 10-28-2009, 07:39 AM

Fay's Boat yard is open. You may have to strike the bell on the gas dock to get thier attention.

Rattlesnake Gal · 10-28-2009, 09:06 AM

Minge Cove is usually open late in the year.

Happy boating! Brrrrrr.

colt17 · 10-28-2009, 10:30 AM

Channel is usualy open on weekends for gas into Nov.

JMR · 10-30-2009, 09:20 AM

West Alton Marina is pumping gas on weekends and whenever you can catch them at the repair facility

NoRegrets · 10-30-2009, 10:13 AM

We use Irwins....

LDR4 · 12-14-2009, 07:08 PM

Anyone heard any of the "rumors" out there about marinas and boat dealers on the lake that are hurting and possibly up for sale or closing??

robmac · 12-15-2009, 08:31 AM

Well,we just saw Adams on Winnisquam go to auction and I'm sure the economy has affected others as well. I would imagine if you weren't on financial solid ground and hadn't made the wrong investments you'll still be there next year. I once heard a very good comment from a marina owner," It's not a museum it's all for sale at a price "

BroadHopper · 12-15-2009, 10:48 AM

Anywhere in the US. When you see a marina go belly up, the condo developers are at their doorsteps with an offer for the real estate. There aren't many marinas left on the waterfront. Dock space are being rented or sold at a premium.

Latest venture are boat condos. Where you can buy a dry slip and pay an annual fee for valet.

http://www.verticalyachtclub.com/

colt17 · 12-15-2009, 11:33 AM

I was talking to my sales guy about a month ago and he told me there are a number of marinas around the lake that are on the verge of going out of business. And if he did not have a good base salary he would have been gone months ago. Most of his sales this summer were bank repos.

BroadHopper · 12-15-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by colt17

I was talking to my sales guy about a month ago and he told me there are a number of marinas around the lake that are on the verge of going out of business. And if he did not have a good base salary he would have been gone months ago. Most of his sales this summer were bank repos.

Obviously the current state legislature is treating boat owners like 'trailer trash'. With the double increase in boat registration, and pending boating bills it also effect the marinas. Soon there will be fewer marinas on the lake.

There was a study in NHBusiness magazine not too long ago by UNH. There is a huge drain of mfg and high tech jobs from NH. Students from the colleges are leaving for jobs in the Sun belt. NH legislature has a failing grade as far as containing jobs within her borders. It won't be long until the job base is gone and the property owners bear the cost of running the state. Then everyone will leave and NH will become a ghost state.

Lakewinn1 · 12-15-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by colt17

I was talking to my sales guy about a month ago and he told me there are a number of marinas around the lake that are on the verge of going out of business. And if he did not have a good base salary he would have been gone months ago. Most of his sales this summer were bank repos.

Did they mention any spefic marinas?

colt17 · 12-17-2009, 11:11 AM

He did mention specific marinas I would feel uncomfortable putting it out here incase it was not true.

BroadHopper · 12-17-2009, 11:27 AM

With the new 5% LLC tax on NH businesses, along with the NH business profit tax and the NH Business inventory tax. It won't be long that all businesses will either leave, or charge their customers. Sounds like a broad based tax to me!!!!!

Seaplane Pilot · 12-17-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

With the new 5% LLC tax on NH businesses, along with the NH business profit tax and the NH Business inventory tax. It won't be long that all businesses will either leave, or charge their customers. Sounds like a broad based tax to me!!!!!

Don't forget the Business Enterprise Tax.

FLL, you must be happy now that NH has finally come thru with an income tax!

fatlazyless · 12-17-2009, 12:24 PM

In addition to all the business taxes a marina probably pays a very big local property tax, too. Marinas tend to have a lot of property right on the waterfront.

Maybe I'm wrong on this but It seems to me as a casual observer that the winter storage-shrinkwrap-winterization of boats is a Winnipesaukee marina's biggest profit earner. Bigger than boat sales, bigger than repair work, bigger than retail sales of boat sundries, oil, & gasoine: Winter storage seems like it is the #1 profit maker. I dunno.....maybe as much as 50% of overall operations.....now that sales and repairs have slowed down so much? Winter starts every year on December 21 and every boat has to be stored somewhere out of the water.

...comments?

BroadHopper · 12-17-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Don't forget the Business Enterprise Tax.

FLL, you must be happy now that NH has finally come thru with an income tax!

The way I see it, if the NH govt. replace all taxes with a 'value added tax'. Taxation will be a lot simpler and easier to apply. Right now, if you think about it all the frigging taxes the govt. currently have are nothing more than a complex and complicated series of the value added tax. Some European nations are quite happy with this type of tax.

The economics teachers in the NH university system been preaching this for years. I'm surprise it has not been up in front of the legislature.

LIforrelaxin · 12-17-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Maybe I'm wrong on this but It seems to me as a casual observer that the winter storage-shrinkwrap-winterization of boats is a Winnipesaukee marina's biggest profit earner. Bigger than boat sales, bigger than repair work, bigger than retail sales of boat sundries, oil, & gasoine: Winter storage seems like it is the #1 profit maker. I dunno.....maybe as much as 50% of overall operations.....now that sales and repairs have slowed down so much? Winter starts every year on December 21 and every boat has to be stored somewhere out of the water.

...comments?

FLL you raise a good point, that winter boat storage creates a lot of revenue for the marinas. However I don't think it is the cash cow that one might think it would be. Certainly at the outside it all looks well and good, Once the boat it winterized and put into a storage location the is nothing more for the Marina to do. However the marina, has insurance costs, the cost of maintaining the storage space (a year around cost), and of course maintaining the personal to unwinterize all those stored boats in the spring....

10-28-2009, 07:39 AM	#3
JPC Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milford, NH Posts: 161 Thanks: 44 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	Gas! Fay's Boat yard is open. You may have to strike the bell on the gas dock to get thier attention.

10-28-2009, 09:06 AM	#4
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Gas Minge Cove is usually open late in the year. Happy boating! Brrrrrr.

10-28-2009, 10:30 AM	#5
colt17 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollis NH/Laconia Posts: 132 Thanks: 62 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts	Channel Channel is usualy open on weekends for gas into Nov.

10-30-2009, 09:20 AM	#6
JMR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hampton & Rattlesnake Island Posts: 175 Thanks: 33 Thanked 70 Times in 32 Posts	West Alton Marina West Alton Marina is pumping gas on weekends and whenever you can catch them at the repair facility

12-14-2009, 07:08 PM	#8
LDR4 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Speaking of Marinas Anyone heard any of the "rumors" out there about marinas and boat dealers on the lake that are hurting and possibly up for sale or closing??

10-27-2009, 07:48 PM	#1
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,165 Thanks: 205 Thanked 432 Times in 249 Posts	Open Marinas? I'm keeping my boat in much later this year. Which marinas continue to pump gas until just before Thanksgiving?

10-30-2009, 10:13 AM	#7
NoRegrets Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hudson - NH Posts: 408 Thanks: 233 Thanked 212 Times in 88 Posts	We use Irwins....

12-15-2009, 08:31 AM	#9
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	Well,we just saw Adams on Winnisquam go to auction and I'm sure the economy has affected others as well. I would imagine if you weren't on financial solid ground and hadn't made the wrong investments you'll still be there next year. I once heard a very good comment from a marina owner," It's not a museum it's all for sale at a price "

12-15-2009, 10:48 AM	#10
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,570 Thanks: 3,206 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	The problem Anywhere in the US. When you see a marina go belly up, the condo developers are at their doorsteps with an offer for the real estate. There aren't many marinas left on the waterfront. Dock space are being rented or sold at a premium. Latest venture are boat condos. Where you can buy a dry slip and pay an annual fee for valet. http://www.verticalyachtclub.com/ __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

12-15-2009, 11:33 AM	#11
colt17 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollis NH/Laconia Posts: 132 Thanks: 62 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts	Not good for marinas I was talking to my sales guy about a month ago and he told me there are a number of marinas around the lake that are on the verge of going out of business. And if he did not have a good base salary he would have been gone months ago. Most of his sales this summer were bank repos.

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12-17-2009, 11:11 AM	#14
colt17 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollis NH/Laconia Posts: 132 Thanks: 62 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts	He did mention specific marinas I would feel uncomfortable putting it out here incase it was not true.

12-17-2009, 11:27 AM	#15
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,570 Thanks: 3,206 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	Frosting on the cake? With the new 5% LLC tax on NH businesses, along with the NH business profit tax and the NH Business inventory tax. It won't be long that all businesses will either leave, or charge their customers. Sounds like a broad based tax to me!!!!! __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

12-17-2009, 12:24 PM	#17
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,738 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,007 Times in 735 Posts	In addition to all the business taxes a marina probably pays a very big local property tax, too. Marinas tend to have a lot of property right on the waterfront. Maybe I'm wrong on this but It seems to me as a casual observer that the winter storage-shrinkwrap-winterization of boats is a Winnipesaukee marina's biggest profit earner. Bigger than boat sales, bigger than repair work, bigger than retail sales of boat sundries, oil, & gasoine: Winter storage seems like it is the #1 profit maker. I dunno.....maybe as much as 50% of overall operations.....now that sales and repairs have slowed down so much? Winter starts every year on December 21 and every boat has to be stored somewhere out of the water. ...comments? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!