Warm Weather

Hughie · 02-11-2010, 08:14 PM

I hope I haven't offended the hardcore folks. But I would like to offer an option other than the NY Times for climate change data. I was a student of meteorology and climatology and I believe our global climate patterns are controled by two things, the sun and the ocean. We couldn't change either one if we wanted. One of my professors, Joseph D'Aleo who now currently operates ICECAP, a group of world class scientists and meteorologists (http://icecap.us) is a great resource on this subject. ICECAP sorts out on a daily basis the truth and distortions about this topic. A great resource for anyone interested in climate change facts. The best thing is Joe D'Aleo isn't from New York or Washington, he lives here in NH. So enjoy the weather it's the only weather you got.

trfour · 02-11-2010, 08:58 PM

Winter 2010 at DFW Airport, Dallas TX. At over 8" on the ground, and the winter storm warning in effect with whiteout conditions for another 8 hours, today has been the snowiest calender day in History here!

I had been looking forward to flying up there to do some more snowmobiling. If this keeps up I may have to pick up my sled and ride it back down here!

Two sides in warming debate seize on storms to bolster arguments.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35343948...ew_york_times/

hilltopper · 02-12-2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hughie

I was a student of meteorology and climatology and I believe our global climate patterns are controled by two things, the sun and the ocean.

I was wondering the other day whether we have a method of tracking the temperature of the sun. Anybody besides Shedwannabe know if this data exists? I don't want the numbers to get "fudged"...

gtagrip · 02-12-2010, 09:53 AM

I had heard a while back that the earth's temperature is based on the amount of sun spots on the sun at a certain time. Can't remember if the more sun spots the cooler the earth and vice versa for the fewr sun spots.

I don't think that the so called scientists that predicted stronger more intense storms were talking about the most snow fall in the mid-atlantic since the late 1800's. More snow there means colder here in NH as the "cold" air is pushing all these "stronger more intense" storms to our south.
Our temperatures in NH have been below normal for most of December and January. I guess this all has to do with global warming.

Also, I don't consider the NY Times as the most reliable source for anything political.

SIKSUKR · 02-12-2010, 02:31 PM

Amazing isn't it? Warmer weather trends mean man-made global warming. Cold weather with ALL TIME record snows in the snow also translate to man-made global warming. The ferocious hurricanes that were supposed to increase the last 3 years, forecasted by non other than the author of An Inconvienant Truth Al Gore, have done just the opposite. The people are not stupid about this crap being rammed down their throats from the liberal left and results are showing up everyway in the the recent elections. I see Mr Kennedy has just called it career in RI so he won't have to suffer the same fate. Time for the rest of the country to gets its head out of the snow drifts.

Shedwannabe · 02-12-2010, 03:28 PM

Where have all the winters gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the winters gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the winters gone?
People pretended nothing's changed
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

ITD · 02-12-2010, 05:09 PM

Ah, more irrefutable "settled" science.

trfour · 02-13-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD

Ah, more irrefutable "settled" science.

Just remember ITD, Ya heard it All here First!

Terry
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Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. - Bertrand Russell ( 1872-1970)

ApS · 02-14-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

"...Time for the rest of the country to gets its head out of the snow drifts..."

In England, they just woke up to it today.

Al Gore, Michael Moore, and other "Global-Warmers" quoted the eminent Climatologist, Professor Phil Jones. A British newspaper quotes some of Professor Jones' admissions from this weekend:

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"...conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon..."

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"...And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming..."

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"...admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information..."

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"...he may have actually lost the relevant papers..."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...organised.html

The dog DID eat the homework!

This important development should resonate in US media as we speak.

02-11-2010, 08:58 PM	#2
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Yet Another Record Shattering Snow Event... Winter 2010 at DFW Airport, Dallas TX. At over 8" on the ground, and the winter storm warning in effect with whiteout conditions for another 8 hours, today has been the snowiest calender day in History here! I had been looking forward to flying up there to do some more snowmobiling. If this keeps up I may have to pick up my sled and ride it back down here! Two sides in warming debate seize on storms to bolster arguments. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35343948...ew_york_times/ __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

02-12-2010, 09:53 AM	#4
gtagrip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 301 Thanks: 115 Thanked 75 Times in 52 Posts	Sun Spots I had heard a while back that the earth's temperature is based on the amount of sun spots on the sun at a certain time. Can't remember if the more sun spots the cooler the earth and vice versa for the fewr sun spots. I don't think that the so called scientists that predicted stronger more intense storms were talking about the most snow fall in the mid-atlantic since the late 1800's. More snow there means colder here in NH as the "cold" air is pushing all these "stronger more intense" storms to our south. Our temperatures in NH have been below normal for most of December and January. I guess this all has to do with global warming. Also, I don't consider the NY Times as the most reliable source for anything political.

02-12-2010, 02:31 PM	#5
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Amazing isn't it? Warmer weather trends mean man-made global warming. Cold weather with ALL TIME record snows in the snow also translate to man-made global warming. The ferocious hurricanes that were supposed to increase the last 3 years, forecasted by non other than the author of An Inconvienant Truth Al Gore, have done just the opposite. The people are not stupid about this crap being rammed down their throats from the liberal left and results are showing up everyway in the the recent elections. I see Mr Kennedy has just called it career in RI so he won't have to suffer the same fate. Time for the rest of the country to gets its head out of the snow drifts. __________________ SIKSUKR

02-11-2010, 08:14 PM	#1
Hughie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I hope I haven't offended the hardcore folks. But I would like to offer an option other than the NY Times for climate change data. I was a student of meteorology and climatology and I believe our global climate patterns are controled by two things, the sun and the ocean. We couldn't change either one if we wanted. One of my professors, Joseph D'Aleo who now currently operates ICECAP, a group of world class scientists and meteorologists (http://icecap.us) is a great resource on this subject. ICECAP sorts out on a daily basis the truth and distortions about this topic. A great resource for anyone interested in climate change facts. The best thing is Joe D'Aleo isn't from New York or Washington, he lives here in NH. So enjoy the weather it's the only weather you got.

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02-12-2010, 03:28 PM	#6
Shedwannabe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laconia Posts: 133 Thanks: 3 Thanked 22 Times in 15 Posts	Where have all the winters gone? Long time passing Where have all the winters gone? Long time ago Where have all the winters gone? People pretended nothing's changed When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?

02-12-2010, 05:09 PM	#7
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,942 Thanks: 483 Thanked 700 Times in 391 Posts	Ah, more irrefutable "settled" science.