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Old 03-06-2010, 10:18 PM   #1
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Hi TRFOUR

Don posted that picture for me, way back before I'd gotten active on Winni.com.

That particular incident had nothing to do with the Mount's engines. If I recall correctly, she lost hydraulics. At any rate, she was almost down to her dock in Center Harbor when she had to shut everything down, and the wind took her into that boat house about half way up the bay.

My father and I were standing on the dock at Colonial Pines, and watched the whole episode.

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Old 03-07-2010, 02:33 AM   #2
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what did they do with the old engines?
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:37 PM   #3
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Hi TRFOUR

Don posted that picture for me, way back before I'd gotten active on Winni.com.

That particular incident had nothing to do with the Mount's engines. If I recall correctly, she lost hydraulics. At any rate, she was almost down to her dock in Center Harbor when she had to shut everything down, and the wind took her into that boat house about half way up the bay.

My father and I were standing on the dock at Colonial Pines, and watched the whole episode.

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" That particular incident had nothing to do with the Mount's engines."


Hi Silver Duck. Yes, that must have been a spooky experience!
I'm with you 100%. The Enterprise engines would run indefinitely with good routine maintenance...

If not for the Grant, and Parts for these old engines being hard to find and purchase, they could have continued to power the M/S Mount Washington well into the future.

My point to "idigtractors" was that with the new Cat engines being much more fuel efficient and less polluting, and replacement parts being readily available, it's a win win situation and a very heads Up progressive move for all!...


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Progressive movement!! Your not one of "those" are you? When did this become political, anyway?

Completely kidding T, hopefully the Mount will be able to get more riders so it will be putting these new powerplants to good use. I know that I will be on this year, my wife has never been on the Mount and I know that the kids will love it.
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" That particular incident had nothing to do with the Mount's engines."


Hi Silver Duck. Yes, that must have been a spooky experience!
I'm with you 100%. The Enterprise engines would run indefinitely with good routine maintenance...

If not for the Grant, and Parts for these old engines being hard to find and purchase, they could have continued to power the M/S Mount Washington well into the future.

My point to "idigtractors" was that with the new Cat engines being much more fuel efficient and less polluting, and replacement parts being readily available, it's a win win situation and a very heads Up progressive move for all!...


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If you read the posts, the CAT engines will use just as must fuel as the old engines. They have to power the same weight and the catalysts are not fuel efficient.

As for the Enterprise engines. Yes they can run forever. Parts are still available. If not a local machine shop can make the parts.

My '69 PowerWagon with a 318 is 6 mpg more efficient than my '98 Dakota 318. because of the pollution controls.
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Yes, they use just as much fuel as the old Enterprise engines, but now the Mount can get up on plane.
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Yes, they use just as much fuel as the old Enterprise engines, but now the Mount can get up on plane.
They might outlaw that too!
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Yes, they use just as much fuel as the old Enterprise engines, but now the Mount can get up on plane.

I'm sure could Tune them new Cats up some, however the M/S Mount Washington's hull would need a redesigned with some ribs and wings for that ever to happen. Horse power alone wouldn't get her done!

Sides, they'd have to rename her ( M/ S Tsunami Mama ) and there probably wouldn't be enough water left in the Lake for the rest of us after her first water test!!


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Yes, they use just as much fuel as the old Enterprise engines, but now the Mount can get up on plane.
Can it pull skiers? Or wakeboarders...?
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If you read the posts, the CAT engines will use just as must fuel as the old engines. They have to power the same weight and the catalysts are not fuel efficient.

As for the Enterprise engines. Yes they can run forever. Parts are still available. If not a local machine shop can make the parts..

Hi BH,

I won't bore you by going into the specifics, however let me say this about the New engines as follows.

#1. Just having the two turbo chargers each- ( = four ) , they greatly increase fuel efficiency Burn in the combustion chamber, using less fuel by forcing more air into the mix allowing a much cleaner burn with less emissions.
Having an external catalytic exhaust system, filters out more of any pollutants that were not burned in the above process.

#2. It is Not At All Surprising To Me, that the New Cat Engines will use about the same aMOUNT of fuel as the old Enterprise engines did.
Now, at the same time one must remember that the Cats have four more hungry cylinders to feed fuel to ( = eight more cylinders twixt )

#3. Please listen closely and in his own words to Jim Morash The Captain and General Manager of The Mount Washington Cruises, in this video about the parts issue. http://multimedia.boston.com/m/25325...ly+Friendly%22


In closing, may I also say, about the old engines...
Diesel engines have no spark plugs, and rely on a tremendous amount of compression to ignite the fuel... It is not out of the realm of goings on, that a cylinder head can crack beyond repair...
Just as a for instance, imagine having one of these made at your local machine shop and having to pay their shop rate or overhead for them to make you a new one...
And consider the down time!
I think Not...


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