What do you drive to the lake?

lawn psycho · 05-10-2010, 11:00 AM

Getting into and accessing the seats and 3rd row of an Odyssey is the advantage over the Pilot.

If you tow, I would change my answer and it would not be the two above.

jmen24 · 05-10-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

GMC makes a fullsize Yukon Hybrid that can hold 8 passengers.This truck actually shows better gas milage on the highway than the city.21-city 22-hwy.http://www.gmc.com/yukon/hybrid/specsStandard.jsp

City MPG is always lower than Highway.

ishoot308 · 05-10-2010, 11:59 AM

One of the vehicles I use is a Chevy Explorer conversion van. It's a 3/4 ton so has no problems towing, gets 16 MPG and very comfortably fits 7 people. If you look around, you can actually find pretty good deals on these right now. I love mine and wouldn't be without it.

My other vehicle is a full size Chevy Tahoe. Room for six, no problems towing, gas mileage so so at 13-14 MPG. I do like this vehicle but drive the van more often.

Dan

This'nThat · 05-10-2010, 12:33 PM

Don't get an SUV -- look into station wagons.

kdw1003 · 05-10-2010, 12:43 PM

You may not have thought of pick-up trucks. I just leased a 2010 Toyota Tundra Crewmax. 4 full doors. Comfortable seating for 6 with the front bench seat that folds down to a console. Large bed for luggage, etc and awesome towing capacity. The only downfall is the mpg which ranges from 13-17...but something you would expect with a V8. Haven't been able to test it out in the snow yet, but I'm sure it won't dissapoint with the on-the-fly 4x4.

jmen24 · 05-10-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kdw1003

You may not have thought of pick-up trucks. I just leased a 2010 Toyota Tundra Crewmax. 4 full doors. Comfortable seating for 6 with the front bench seat that folds down to a console. Large bed for luggage, etc and awesome towing capacity. The only downfall is the mpg which ranges from 13-17...but something you would expect with a V8. Haven't been able to test it out in the snow yet, but I'm sure it won't dissapoint with the on-the-fly 4x4.

If it is anything like the Tacoma, it actually feels more planted in 2wd with the LSD and traction control. In 4wd it has a push feeling when encountering snow at more that 4" or so at 30-40MPH. Truck went places in 2-wheel-peel that my Silverado could never have dreamed of going, but it does not feel as solid in 4wd.

Grady223 · 05-10-2010, 01:18 PM

Another one here for the Honda Pilot. That's what we use back and forth from PA, fits lots of stuff, seats 8, decent mpg and can tow. Very happy with ours.

SIKSUKR · 05-10-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jmen24

City MPG is always lower than Highway.

My bad but my point was it's virtually the same which is almost NEVER the case.I love to split hairs and will be watching a particulars members wording very closely.

Island Girl · 05-10-2010, 01:36 PM

My 2004 Highlander gets 20-25 mpg on the 2 hour drive to the lake at 64 mph. It has a third seat which would be good for kids. Adults are cramped.

6 adults might be a tad tight, but doable. The ride is excellent... and I can tow my toys.

IG

SIKSUKR · 05-10-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jmen24

City MPG is always lower than Highway.

Ok smartypants then how do you explain this?
Ford Fusion Hybrid 41 city/36 highway
http://cars.about.com/od/helpforcarb...top10_fuel.htm

Newbiesaukee · 05-10-2010, 02:14 PM

I'm not the smartypants, but before your answer I was going to point out ( to the real smartypants) that hybrids do get better mpg in city than highway.

jmen24 · 05-10-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

I'm not the smartypants, but before your answer I was going to point out ( to the real smartypants) that hybrids do get better mpg in city than highway.

My typical first response has a tendency to be directly off-the-cuff, so I was not thinking past the first thought that came to mind. Not picking out the "hybrid" in the post is what drew me astray.

I often found myself grounded as a child, all because I usually said the first thing that came to mind.

SIKSUKR · 05-10-2010, 03:36 PM

I am well aware of why a hybrid such as the Yukon gets such high city mph. So the only part of your 2 previous posts that seem to be missing is that you were wrong about correcting me. I'll say it for you. Wrong jmen24!

jmen24 · 05-10-2010, 04:03 PM

I see, I answer a question that you asked and stated that I misunderstood what you were stating. 1st of two response posts.

You are right SIKSUKR, I was wrong. I appologize to you, for calling you out.

jmen24 · 05-10-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Ok smartypants then how do you explain this?
Ford Fusion Hybrid 41 city/36 highway
http://cars.about.com/od/helpforcarb...top10_fuel.htm

The leading cause for extra fuel use in city driving is the starting from a standing stop. In a gas/electric hybrid, the electric motor is the first stage of the system, so you remove gas engines inefficiency at this task.

While the electric motor in a hybrid does very well in the city (start/stop) driving, it does not do very well on the highway. Higher energy draw at higher rpm and less than great torque response, so the gas engine has to pick up the tab.

Now that you presented me with this question, I completely understand where your statement was coming from.

05-10-2010, 01:18 PM	#7
Grady223 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Hope, PA & Barndoor Island Posts: 465 Thanks: 93 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Honda Pilot Another one here for the Honda Pilot. That's what we use back and forth from PA, fits lots of stuff, seats 8, decent mpg and can tow. Very happy with ours.

05-10-2010, 01:36 PM	#9
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	Toyota Highlander My 2004 Highlander gets 20-25 mpg on the 2 hour drive to the lake at 64 mph. It has a third seat which would be good for kids. Adults are cramped. 6 adults might be a tad tight, but doable. The ride is excellent... and I can tow my toys. IG __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

05-10-2010, 03:36 PM	#13
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	No hard feelings toward ME? I am well aware of why a hybrid such as the Yukon gets such high city mph. So the only part of your 2 previous posts that seem to be missing is that you were wrong about correcting me. I'll say it for you. Wrong jmen24! __________________ SIKSUKR

05-10-2010, 11:00 AM	#1
lawn psycho Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: On the move... Posts: 987 Thanks: 113 Thanked 248 Times in 133 Posts	Getting into and accessing the seats and 3rd row of an Odyssey is the advantage over the Pilot. If you tow, I would change my answer and it would not be the two above.

05-10-2010, 11:59 AM	#3
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,314 Thanks: 2,407 Thanked 5,310 Times in 2,071 Posts	One of the vehicles I use is a Chevy Explorer conversion van. It's a 3/4 ton so has no problems towing, gets 16 MPG and very comfortably fits 7 people. If you look around, you can actually find pretty good deals on these right now. I love mine and wouldn't be without it. My other vehicle is a full size Chevy Tahoe. Room for six, no problems towing, gas mileage so so at 13-14 MPG. I do like this vehicle but drive the van more often. Dan

05-10-2010, 12:33 PM	#4
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	Don't get an SUV -- look into station wagons.

05-10-2010, 12:43 PM	#5
kdw1003 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Boylston, MA Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	You may not have thought of pick-up trucks. I just leased a 2010 Toyota Tundra Crewmax. 4 full doors. Comfortable seating for 6 with the front bench seat that folds down to a console. Large bed for luggage, etc and awesome towing capacity. The only downfall is the mpg which ranges from 13-17...but something you would expect with a V8. Haven't been able to test it out in the snow yet, but I'm sure it won't dissapoint with the on-the-fly 4x4.

05-10-2010, 02:14 PM	#11
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,359 Thanks: 954 Thanked 573 Times in 298 Posts	I'm not the smartypants, but before your answer I was going to point out ( to the real smartypants) that hybrids do get better mpg in city than highway.

05-10-2010, 04:03 PM	#14
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	I see, I answer a question that you asked and stated that I misunderstood what you were stating. 1st of two response posts. You are right SIKSUKR, I was wrong. I appologize to you, for calling you out.

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