No rafting.......

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

I strongly encourage you to voice your opinion, but starting out on a new thread with quotes from old and unrelated threads is not going to accomplish anything but to alienate other posters,,,

Did you say old and unrelated?? The thread was from last week and had to do with inconsiderate noise on the lake. SOTD

[Paugus Bay Resident]

As a former LR resident, I wanted to share a picture from my new home. This isn't unusual for a nice weekend day. Boats from 10' to 100'. Notice the jet skis in the upper left corner, no 150' rule. Quite a change There's go fasts, go slows, dinks, mega yachts, everybody's just enjoying the day.

[cowisl]

Originally Posted by Paugus Bay Resident

As a former LR resident, I wanted to share a picture from my new home. This isn't unusual for a nice weekend day. Boats from 10' to 100'. Notice the jet skis in the upper left corner, no 150' rule. Quite a change There's go fasts, go slows, dinks, mega yachts, everybody's just enjoying the day.

Nice pic. i was down there last weekend!

[NoRegrets]

The media has perfected the art of using sound bytes or partial statements to make points. Clipping statements with non-flattering intentions can turn a thread into a bitter exchange. Many readers get the wrong impression and Don has had to close or lock many threads that have taken this path. The exchange of opinions about noise and rafting has let many give their perspectives.

We were rafted in a different part of the lake this past Saturday when a large Carver anchored close by. They had a large party with music, dancing, jumping off the bow, and plenty of screaming and yelling. I was at first turned off by the excessive noise but then realized they were enjoying the moment. It was my mood that was critical of their fun. I made a cocktail, jumped into the water, and got out of my bitch mood and had the best day of the year!

[Woodsy]

I was also there.....

To be truthful.... I was wondering why this guy was blowing off his horn, and I figured he was just being an *ss... and because I "thought" he was being an *ss I was def irritated! (for the above mentioned reasons... ruining a good thing) If he was blowing his horn to ward off a non-courteous boater.... it def eases my irritation level.

Sometimes things are not exactly what they seem....

Woodsy

[Kracken]

Sunset,

So… you are in favor of loud horns, inconsiderate boneheads who think that the lake is one big party zone and throwing trash into the lake? Wow, welcome to the darkside buddy.

Now what??? We agree…what happens now?

[OCDACTIVE]

sunset,

You know I always value your opinions and comments. But I don't think pulling posts from a "locked" thread into a new thread is a great idea. The webmaster didn't want the conversation to continue and bringing it here may just be exasperating the situation.

I agree that there are times people need to respect those around them when rafting. But it being one of my favorite things to do on the water I can say that out of the hundreds, if not thousands of boats that I have seen or experienced rafting with, only a hand few are "out of line". Most everyone are there simply for a great time to enjoy with others and are most helpful and respectful to those around them.

[XCR-700]

PBR, love your LakeBocaCam shot!

Not what I would want to do everyweekend, but it looks cool!!

Thanks and ENJOY!!!

[GTO]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

sunset,

You know I always value your opinions and comments. But I don't think pulling posts from a "locked" thread into a new thread is a great idea. The webmaster didn't want the conversation to continue and bringing it here may just be exasperating the situation.

I agree that there are times people need to respect those around them when rafting. But it being one of my favorite things to do on the water I can say that out of the hundreds, if not thousands of boats that I have seen or experienced rafting with, only a hand few are "out of line". Most everyone are there simply for a great time to enjoy with others and are most helpful and respectful to those around them.

I am not opposed to rafting at all. Everyone enjoy the lake to its fullest....better to do it with a group of friends with other boats. My point was that there are a few that will ruin it for the rest, whether its by throwing trash, loud music/horns etc. This thread could easily in one to two years be people writing about how another area on the lake is now off limits to rafting but they will never say it was because the the few inconsiderate idiots that ruined it for everyone else, they will blame the state, marine patrol, laws, regulations, etc.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by GTO

I am not opposed to rafting at all. Everyone enjoy the lake to its fullest....better to do it with a group of friends with other boats. My point was that there are a few that will ruin it for the rest, whether its by throwing trash, loud music/horns etc. This thread could easily in one to two years be people writing about how another area on the lake is now off limits to rafting but they will never say it was because the the few inconsiderate idiots that ruined it for everyone else, they will blame the state, marine patrol, laws, regulations, etc.

Hi GTO, I think you nailed it and your sentiments about excessive (fill in the blank- speed, exhaust noise, stereo noise) are right on. Regardless of rules and laws, one or two boneheads can and will ruin it for the rest of us.

We need to be realistic, there are only a few folks here that want to see the lake as it was in 1700 (well I would love to see it, but only for a day). I like my powerboat, but I also feel that I am considerate in the use of it, including the volume control on the stereo.

Enjoy the day on the lake if you can, it looks like some rain will be moving through.

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

sunset,

You know I always value your opinions and comments. But I don't think pulling posts from a "locked" thread into a new thread is a great idea. The webmaster didn't want the conversation to continue and bringing it here may just be exasperating the situation.

I agree that there are times people need to respect those around them when rafting. But it being one of my favorite things to do on the water I can say that out of the hundreds, if not thousands of boats that I have seen or experienced rafting with, only a hand few are "out of line". Most everyone are there simply for a great time to enjoy with others and are most helpful and respectful to those around them.

OCD nails it. Don should just pull that post by SOTD, which was obviously dragged from a closed thread. No reason to pull entire threads due to the actions of a few. Hey, that's what this thread is about isn't it?

Thanks OCD, for pointing out the obvious.

[DC Pointer]

I always have to remind myself that I abut a state park.

[jrc]

We boaters should self police. If someone throws trash in the lake, pick it up and give them an earful.

If someone is being a jerk at the sandbar remind them that their behaviour reflects on all of us. And remind them that everyone has a camera these days.

[MAXUM]

Is really the root of the problem rafting or irresponsible behavior? If one or more persons decide to become belligerent, the number of physical boats present and how they happen to be anchored is inconsequential IMHO. Why not just rename the no rafting zones to no loitering zones, because I believe that's the intent of their existence.

[robmac]

I can see my friends condo in the pic. Very cool.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Did you say old and unrelated?? The thread was from last week and had to do with inconsiderate noise on the lake. SOTD

Meaning not from this thread.

I have no issue with you bringing any opinion you wish to bring to this thread, I dont have to agree with you, but I would much rather see people venting on forums than passing new laws.

But grabbing snippets from different threads is generally not a good practice, and it’s a pet peeve of mine.

If thats your style, so be it, but by doing so you risk loosing folks who might be like minded to your issue and you may loose support.

Sorry for being preachy, but using quotes from different threads just strikes me a trolling for trouble as opposed to engaging in an honest and open debate.

If you see it differently, then we will have to agree to disagree about forum etiquette.