Mason Needed

ishoot308 · 06-30-2010, 08:50 AM

Looking for someone who can mortar up a natural stone wall at my island camp on Welch. Part of it was done rather unprofessionally previously and the mortar froze while curing and simply falls off. looking to get it re-done professionally. Probably a day maybe two days at most of work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

Dan

AC2717 · 06-30-2010, 08:55 AM

Hi Ishoot
A neighbor of mine just had a beautiful natural stone wall done at his place, no mortor, done old school. Solid as a rockc(no pun intended lol), done quick, clean, very professional, and best of all it looks like it has been there for over 100 years and it is also a retaining wall

if you want I can ask him for the guys info and give it to you

trfour · 06-30-2010, 12:32 PM

ishoot308,

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...901#post127901

Hope this helps.

Terry
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ishoot308 · 06-30-2010, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AC2717

Hi Ishoot
A neighbor of mine just had a beautiful natural stone wall done at his place, no mortor, done old school. Solid as a rockc(no pun intended lol), done quick, clean, very professional, and best of all it looks like it has been there for over 100 years and it is also a retaining wall

if you want I can ask him for the guys info and give it to you

Thanks, but I should have been a little more specific...The stone wall is completely done. It's nothing spectacular just the natural stones that came from the island. We are using them for a small retaining wall in front of our camp and need mortar infill to keep dirt from flowing through when it rains. I have attached a pic to help describe what I am looking for.

Dan

AC2717 · 06-30-2010, 01:43 PM

Gotcha
I honestly think, and I am not a mason,
that the only right way to fix that is to have the wall done over the correct way, because what is behind the wall is washing away through it, so if you just fill in from the front, the wall will retain the water and will crack out again when freezing.
so there should be scuppers in the wall to let the water drain through to the other side or drainage behind the wall
What is happening is the water builds up behind the wall and found its way out between the rocks that would not move, that wall will be under a huge load if you block up all that open space. You either have to put drains in it or fill in behind it with drainage stone and have the water travel underneath the stone.

My disclaimer:
Sorry to tell you that, but again I am not a mason, but have seen it before, and do not claim to be an expert

ishoot308 · 06-30-2010, 01:57 PM

Hi AC;

You may be right...

Since that picture was taken we have put many plantings (shrubs, flowers, etc, etc) in that area then put bark mulch down and this stopped most of the wash out through the rocks. I was hoping the mortar would put the finishing touch on it and help make it look better also. I was hoping a good mason would be able to do this...

Thanks!

Dan

AC2717 · 06-30-2010, 02:28 PM

Good luck! I hope you get it fixed and they can do it, it would be a shame to have to redo cause it is a nice wall, I love naturescaping and stonescaping especially cause there are endless possibilities to create a one offs for yourself in your own visions

I can say it does look nice especially with the patio brick below it!

AC2717 · 06-30-2010, 08:28 PM

I forgot to mention a cheap fix with a little bit of labor on your end, nice weekend morning thing to do

We had this issue on a raise flower bed we have, the dirt and what not was coming through the small paver wall we had. I dug out behind it, just enough to reach down to the bottom, only the smallest width shovel like a 4 inch edger one
Then I took the cheapest window screen material I could find and used it as a backing to the wall. Then just back filled the dirt

Problem solved, water pours out, no dirt or anything else with it
Works great almost 6 years later still

Irrigation Guy · 06-30-2010, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AC2717

I forgot to mention a cheap fix with a little bit of labor on your end, nice weekend morning thing to do

We had this issue on a raise flower bed we have, the dirt and what not was coming through the small paver wall we had. I dug out behind it, just enough to reach down to the bottom, only the smallest width shovel like a 4 inch edger one
Then I took the cheapest window screen material I could find and used it as a backing to the wall. Then just back filled the dirt

Problem solved, water pours out, no dirt or anything else with it
Works great almost 6 years later still

They make a fabric that they sell at home improvement stores for just that purpose. (Filter Fabric)

Brendan · 07-01-2010, 08:55 AM

My name is Brendan Olden, and I am a mason. I would be more than happy to take a look at your wall. Feel free to give me a buzz any time.

Brendan Olden
Branching Walls Masonry
www.branchingwalls.com
(603)455-5068

06-30-2010, 08:50 AM	#1
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,373 Thanks: 2,423 Thanked 5,353 Times in 2,096 Posts	Mason Needed Looking for someone who can mortar up a natural stone wall at my island camp on Welch. Part of it was done rather unprofessionally previously and the mortar froze while curing and simply falls off. looking to get it re-done professionally. Probably a day maybe two days at most of work. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! Dan

06-30-2010, 08:55 AM	#2
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 756 Thanked 358 Times in 269 Posts	Hi Ishoot A neighbor of mine just had a beautiful natural stone wall done at his place, no mortor, done old school. Solid as a rockc(no pun intended lol), done quick, clean, very professional, and best of all it looks like it has been there for over 100 years and it is also a retaining wall if you want I can ask him for the guys info and give it to you __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

06-30-2010, 12:32 PM	#3
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	ishoot308, http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...901#post127901 Hope this helps. Terry _________________________ __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

06-30-2010, 01:43 PM	#5
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 756 Thanked 358 Times in 269 Posts	Gotcha I honestly think, and I am not a mason, that the only right way to fix that is to have the wall done over the correct way, because what is behind the wall is washing away through it, so if you just fill in from the front, the wall will retain the water and will crack out again when freezing. so there should be scuppers in the wall to let the water drain through to the other side or drainage behind the wall What is happening is the water builds up behind the wall and found its way out between the rocks that would not move, that wall will be under a huge load if you block up all that open space. You either have to put drains in it or fill in behind it with drainage stone and have the water travel underneath the stone. My disclaimer: Sorry to tell you that, but again I am not a mason, but have seen it before, and do not claim to be an expert __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

06-30-2010, 02:28 PM	#7
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 756 Thanked 358 Times in 269 Posts	Good luck! I hope you get it fixed and they can do it, it would be a shame to have to redo cause it is a nice wall, I love naturescaping and stonescaping especially cause there are endless possibilities to create a one offs for yourself in your own visions I can say it does look nice especially with the patio brick below it! __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

06-30-2010, 01:57 PM	#6
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,373 Thanks: 2,423 Thanked 5,353 Times in 2,096 Posts	Hi AC; You may be right... Since that picture was taken we have put many plantings (shrubs, flowers, etc, etc) in that area then put bark mulch down and this stopped most of the wash out through the rocks. I was hoping the mortar would put the finishing touch on it and help make it look better also. I was hoping a good mason would be able to do this... Thanks! Dan

06-30-2010, 08:28 PM	#8
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 756 Thanked 358 Times in 269 Posts	I am such a meathead I forgot to mention a cheap fix with a little bit of labor on your end, nice weekend morning thing to do We had this issue on a raise flower bed we have, the dirt and what not was coming through the small paver wall we had. I dug out behind it, just enough to reach down to the bottom, only the smallest width shovel like a 4 inch edger one Then I took the cheapest window screen material I could find and used it as a backing to the wall. Then just back filled the dirt Problem solved, water pours out, no dirt or anything else with it Works great almost 6 years later still __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

07-01-2010, 08:55 AM	#10
Brendan Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hello Ishoot... My name is Brendan Olden, and I am a mason. I would be more than happy to take a look at your wall. Feel free to give me a buzz any time. Brendan Olden Branching Walls Masonry www.branchingwalls.com (603)455-5068