Double standard for Sail boats ?

VitaBene · 07-01-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Acres per Second

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Understanding things such as the above examples may be why—in earning the United Kingdom's "Boating Certificate"—one must demonstrate one's proficiencies at sailing an actual sailboat!

Thank God we boat in NH and not the UK!

rockythedog · 07-01-2010, 05:23 PM

Here's another double standard. We were coming back from Wolfeboro last night around 8:00 pm. Had nav lights on, 1/2 hour before sunset, and passed a sailboat with no lights heading towards the broads. Do the same rules apply for nightime navigation?

NoBozo · 07-01-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rockythedog

Here's another double standard. We were coming back from Wolfeboro last night around 8:00 pm. Had nav lights on, 1/2 hour before sunset, and passed a sailboat with no lights heading towards the broads. Do the same rules apply for nightime navigation?

Was it a Sunfish .............or was it a 36' "Yacht".

NB

rockythedog · 07-01-2010, 06:41 PM

22-26 foot sailboat with main and jib. No light on the mast. Kind of dangerous at dusk.

Rattlesnake Guy · 07-01-2010, 07:54 PM

I think the rule is a half hour "after" sunset. In practice it seems to be effected by the cloud cover quite dramatically. Reminds me of the rule growing up... to be home when the street light comes on. This took into account changes in the length of day, the severity of the weather etc. Never seemed to take in to account the fact that the bases were loaded and Frankie was at bat.

ApS · 07-02-2010, 05:34 AM

"Cloud-cover" is right!

Some kids were retrieving a boat that had gone adrift: I took this photo in the late-afternoon last Summer!

Misty Blue · 07-02-2010, 12:47 PM

A sailboat under sail alone after sunset is required to show Red and Green running lights with a arc of 112.5 deg. forward each and one 135 deg. aft. That's the way that you know that she is a sailboat and is the "stand on vessel" and you are the "give way vessel".

If he starts his motor the vessel becomes a power vessel and he is required to turn on his mast head light to show it. He then must obey the regular nav rules just like a power boater.

For what it is worth, really nadda on the Lake, during the day he should show an inverted cone from the yard arm to show that he is also under engine power. Yo Ho Ho!

Hope this helps.

Misty Blue.

SIKSUKR · 07-02-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

Never seemed to take in to account the fact that the bases were loaded and Frankie was at bat.

While I'm reading your post I'm listening to Joe Walsh sing.."bases are loaded and Casey at bat,changes in every way.."

07-01-2010, 07:54 PM	#5
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	After I think I think the rule is a half hour "after" sunset. In practice it seems to be effected by the cloud cover quite dramatically. Reminds me of the rule growing up... to be home when the street light comes on. This took into account changes in the length of day, the severity of the weather etc. Never seemed to take in to account the fact that the bases were loaded and Frankie was at bat.

07-02-2010, 05:34 AM	#6
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 6,027 Thanks: 2,275 Thanked 786 Times in 562 Posts	Cloud Cover -- Early Darkness "Cloud-cover" is right! Some kids were retrieving a boat that had gone adrift: I took this photo in the late-afternoon last Summer! Attached Images

07-02-2010, 12:47 PM	#7
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	They were probably right Rocky. A sailboat under sail alone after sunset is required to show Red and Green running lights with a arc of 112.5 deg. forward each and one 135 deg. aft. That's the way that you know that she is a sailboat and is the "stand on vessel" and you are the "give way vessel". If he starts his motor the vessel becomes a power vessel and he is required to turn on his mast head light to show it. He then must obey the regular nav rules just like a power boater. For what it is worth, really nadda on the Lake, during the day he should show an inverted cone from the yard arm to show that he is also under engine power. Yo Ho Ho! Hope this helps. Misty Blue. Last edited by Misty Blue; 07-02-2010 at 02:15 PM.

07-01-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
rockythedog Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Here's another double standard. We were coming back from Wolfeboro last night around 8:00 pm. Had nav lights on, 1/2 hour before sunset, and passed a sailboat with no lights heading towards the broads. Do the same rules apply for nightime navigation?

07-01-2010, 06:41 PM	#4
rockythedog Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	22-26 foot sailboat with main and jib. No light on the mast. Kind of dangerous at dusk.

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