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Old 07-17-2010, 12:57 PM   #1
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Thanks for the info guys. Sure looks strange seeing such a big hole so far aft....and at the full beam of the model. Another thing, as a modeler myself, Scale and Accuracy is very important. The Full Scale Mount doesn't have thrusters does it..?

Thrusters are quite popular on Jet Drive boats like the Hinkley Picnic Boat because Jet Drives handle poorly during docking maneuvers. A Twin Screw boat on the other hand can be backed and filled and turned in it's own length by a skilled pilot. Having thrusters on a twin screw boat seems to me like a lazy alternative to learning seamanship and boat handling.

However, I can see the need on the Mini Mount because I suspect the skipper has a real visibility problem when docking, what with being cooped up inside. NB
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:38 PM   #2
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Suddenly we are all talking about thrusters...what's the deal with SELLING her? She was a gift to the company correct? Then one year later the company sells her for$30K? That seems wrong, and I hope I am wrong is assuming the company is selling and not the previous owners. I hope that the company gave the boat back to the owners and said, "we cannot find a good use for her, so we are giving it back to you to sell."
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:05 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info guys. Sure looks strange seeing such a big hole so far aft....and at the full beam of the model. Another thing, as a modeler myself, Scale and Accuracy is very important. The Full Scale Mount doesn't have thrusters does it..?

Thrusters are quite popular on Jet Drive boats like the Hinkley Picnic Boat because Jet Drives handle poorly during docking maneuvers. A Twin Screw boat on the other hand can be backed and filled and turned in it's own length by a skilled pilot. Having thrusters on a twin screw boat seems to me like a lazy alternative to learning seamanship and boat handling. NB
I have been on the boat. It does have a thruster, right where the dark spot is. If you look forward from that spot there is no place wide enough for the necessary tunnel and mechanical equipment.

Calling thrusters a lazy alternative is just wrong, Having owned two large flybridge cruisers I will tell you that docking in a windy situation is not always easy. The sheer size of the boat will catch a lot of wind and when you try to dock in tight places the additional manuverability is quite helpful.

All modern crise ships have both bow and stern thrusters and it is not because the captain was looking for a " lazy alternative to learning seamanship and boat handling". Many of the large cruisers on Winnipesaukee are equipped with bow thrusters (including the 53 Carver)

If you haven't owned or piloted one you just wouldn't know this.
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:26 PM   #4
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Watching someone "Handle" a single OR twin screw "straight inboard" WELL, in close quarters, can be a Distinct Pleasure when the operator knows what they are doing. When they don't, it can be excruciating to watch.

My experience over the past 40 years, both as a boat owner, and observer, has been that as a general rule, the skipper with the larger boat is much more likely to be competent at handling his boat than one who has a smaller boat, primarily because the smaller boat operator is likely a comparative novice. However, if that smaller boat is a Varnished Mahogany Antique..OR the larger boat is their first McYacht, then all bets are off.

A sure fire way to identify a novice: ANY Size boat Underway ...not actually preparing to dock or undock, steaming along with fenders swinging merrily over the side in the spray. NB


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Old 02-26-2011, 07:12 PM   #5
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I always am careful about that NB! I say I don't want to look like I am from ----------. Must admit I have forgotten a few times in my life though.
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