Cpt Bonehead from RI

jr616 · 07-20-2010, 09:51 AM

Or at least his boat was from RI.

This particular boater came out of Center Harbor at full speed next to us by about 5 feet. That's legal right??

If you are coming here please learn the boating laws.

MJM · 07-20-2010, 10:16 AM

I was of the mindset that things were getting better....until this past weekend, that is!
THREE different Capt Boneheads ignoring what I consider to be a very basic rule - who is stand-on and who is give-way.

#1 was off Sewall Point. I was to his starboard, so therefore I have R.O.W. He did yield, but came within maybe 25ft of my stern as I crossed his would-be path. Annoying, but at least he yielded, I suppose.

#2 was near the entrance to Minge Cove. Again, I was to his starboard. He never so much as touched his throttle or course. Absolutely would've been a t-bone collision had I not slowed. I blew my airhorn and got a look of "what's your problem??" from Capt Bonehead.

#3 Was near Parker Island. I have no idea whether this guy knows the rules or not, BECAUSE HE NEVER SAW ME!!! I saw him/our pending intersection a good 3-4 minutes out. Watching....watching...closer...closer....I throttle back....all I can see is Bonehead's BACK. He is standing, right hand draped over the wheel, completely facing his passengers! I really don't think he ever knew I was there...he was chatting away, pointing out things on shore, etc., completely oblivious to what was happening ahead/to starboard of him.

Sigh.

Ryan · 07-20-2010, 10:58 AM

I continue to maintain there needs to be more MP presence - especially near the entrance to the Weirs Channel. One or two MP boats could have a field day writing tickets for the plethora of infractions that take place both coming and going from the channel. Some of the fines would help to replenish the MP fund that was gutted by the legislature.

Saturday, we were approaching the entrance to the channel and had a boat off our starboard about 200ft. A Capt'n B gets up on plane and passes right between us. At least he waved. With the wind and boat traffic, it wasn't exactly calm and smooth (not that this matters).

To date, I have seen TWO MP boats on the lake this year.

Seaplane Pilot · 07-20-2010, 11:13 AM

Winnfabs got it all wrong - definitely barked up the wrong tree. And for that matter, the Reps and Senators were too ignorant to take the time to investigate the real problems. Sorry, too late now.

LIforrelaxin · 07-20-2010, 11:15 AM

The Marine Patrol is out there as much as they can be. I have a keen eye for them and watch for them every time I go out. The problem is the lake is big, and I have to imagine the number of officers is down tremendously. Also with the Marine Patrol Budget lacking, fuel the boats with gas prices where they are also probably has an effect on how many boats go out on a given day.

They are working hard and are out there, just remember they can't catch everyone.

Having talked to the Marine Patrol a few time this year about various things, if you see someone doing something repetitively in the same location, call them, try and have the bow numbers and the best description of the boat as possible.

MJM · 07-20-2010, 12:16 PM

Can/would anything be done if shown on video?

I often think I should keep my video camera handy, take video of the infractions (clearly showing bow#s), and send the video to MP.

Can they legally do anything?
Would they?

LIforrelaxin · 07-20-2010, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJM

Can/would anything be done if shown on video?

I often think I should keep my video camera handy, take video of the infractions (clearly showing bow#s), and send the video to MP.

Can they legally do anything?
Would they?

That is a question to bring to the Marine Patrol... they have a help desk send them an email...

VitaBene · 07-20-2010, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJM

Can/would anything be done if shown on video?

I often think I should keep my video camera handy, take video of the infractions (clearly showing bow#s), and send the video to MP.

Can they legally do anything?
Would they?

I think that the MP can do little for a minor infraction if it were presented to them, though they may use it if it were regarding an accident, etc.

The problem with video is that the chain of custody needs to be maintained. Digital surveillance systems "stamp" video in certain ways so that the courts can tell it has not been tampered with.

masssteve · 07-20-2010, 03:55 PM

There to busy hanging around Braun bay and Little Bear. Giving out tickets to mostly residents and boaters that mostly know what there doing. There aren't to many vacationers and weekenders that make there way up that part of lake so why hang around there? They should stay were most of the trouble is right? But I never see them when you need them to be there.

streetertina · 07-20-2010, 06:55 PM

We saw 2 MP sitting at the entrance to the Weirs Channel this weekend. The lake was very busy. We have seen a huge presence of MP on the lake this year. They can not be every where at once.

MJM · 07-25-2010, 02:03 PM

Not involving me this time, but we watched it happen....unreal.

Off Steamboat/Birch Islands Sat 7/24 early afternoon.

Two boats....headed for a collision...almost 90 degrees from each other....the Stand On boat was the one that finally had to stop, while the one who was the Giveway boat never even slowed. SOoooo frustrating.

What is happening this summer? This is one of the most basic rules, and I keep seeing it being ignored. Scary.

BroadHopper · 07-25-2010, 03:00 PM

Yesterday around 12:30 in the afternoon two boneheads were traveling at above wake speed through the channel from Paugus. One had NH bow number and the other had MS. Everyone was cursing at them. One did slow down after passing a Fountain as the Fountain swerve toward him forcing him to slow down. The other kept going and ignored everyone. Both were bowriders loaded with family and tube.

Friday, I saw one MP boat cruising through Weirs channel toward the end of the day. Probably checking out the boats for the Weirs fire works.

Saturday, I saw one MP boat at the Lake entrance to the Weirs Channel near sunset.

I use to see them everywhere. Now it is about once a day.

ITD · 07-25-2010, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

...........Saturday, I saw one MP boat at the Lake entrance to the Weirs Channel near sunset.

I use to see them everywhere. Now it is about once a day.

I agree, seems to be fewer and fewer MP these days.....

dog paw · 07-25-2010, 06:13 PM

Unfortunantly in the few years that I have been spending time on Winnipesaukee I can safely say the weekend warrior issue is getting worse. But as bad as it might be its ten times that on other lakes. I dunno if there is a answer.... The caliber of Boneheads I'm used to would not last 2 hours on Winni, the rocks would get em before they could be a menace LOL!

This past week we saw a MP every time we went out. In fact, had a moron strong arm the right of way from me right in front of one. Those new boats the MP's have do a takedown pretty well

Talk about not checking your surroundings before doing something stupid....

Anyhow had a wonderful week, burnt up 50 gal or so of irreplaceable fossile fuel in the Sea Doos and enjoyed every minute of it

Looking foward to next time.

Winnipesaukee · 07-27-2010, 04:01 PM

I like to use the channel due north of Eagle to avoid the NWZ. A lot of the time I'll be coming from the Weirs and will have to give way to somebody coming from the Meredith area (off my port side) who won't give way to me.

Mee-n-Mac · 07-27-2010, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJM

Can/would anything be done if shown on video?

I often think I should keep my video camera handy, take video of the infractions (clearly showing bow#s), and send the video to MP.

Can they legally do anything?
Would they?

Legally, naaah ... but you could post it here on Winni.com and then "we" could have a blast tearing Capt B a new one. It might not solve anything but at least it would be fun.

VtSteve · 07-27-2010, 10:29 PM

Lots of boats, boneheads, and lack of enforcement.

I wonder if some of the major boneheads were in decision-making positions over the MP budget?

Where are all those that felt especially "Safe" last summer? Inquiring minds want to know

Lakegeezer · 07-28-2010, 06:25 AM

While at Meredith last weekend for the antique boat show, the dog we were walking needed to cool off its paws at the ramp. I couldn't help but wonder why the most prominent sign there informs guest boaters about a speed limit, but nothing (that I noticed) about the 150 foot separation rule. We are not teaching the Captain B's the most important rule on the lake. Who ever bought those signs missed an opportunity to promote safety with just another line of text.

steadyon · 07-29-2010, 01:59 PM

It's just too damn bad! Squam lake is getting worse as well. Unfortunately there is not much we can do except to keep a watchful eye out for them.
I like the video idea, but you probably could not get the bow #.

07-20-2010, 11:15 AM	#5
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,862 Thanks: 1,035 Thanked 892 Times in 524 Posts	The Marine Patrol is out there as much as they can be. I have a keen eye for them and watch for them every time I go out. The problem is the lake is big, and I have to imagine the number of officers is down tremendously. Also with the Marine Patrol Budget lacking, fuel the boats with gas prices where they are also probably has an effect on how many boats go out on a given day. They are working hard and are out there, just remember they can't catch everyone. Having talked to the Marine Patrol a few time this year about various things, if you see someone doing something repetitively in the same location, call them, try and have the bow numbers and the best description of the boat as possible. __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

07-20-2010, 12:16 PM	#6
MJM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 11 Posts	Video Evidence? Can/would anything be done if shown on video? I often think I should keep my video camera handy, take video of the infractions (clearly showing bow#s), and send the video to MP. Can they legally do anything? Would they?

07-20-2010, 06:55 PM	#10
streetertina Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Have seen many MP We saw 2 MP sitting at the entrance to the Weirs Channel this weekend. The lake was very busy. We have seen a huge presence of MP on the lake this year. They can not be every where at once.

07-25-2010, 02:03 PM	#11
MJM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 11 Posts	R.O.W Again! Not involving me this time, but we watched it happen....unreal. Off Steamboat/Birch Islands Sat 7/24 early afternoon. Two boats....headed for a collision...almost 90 degrees from each other....the Stand On boat was the one that finally had to stop, while the one who was the Giveway boat never even slowed. SOoooo frustrating. What is happening this summer? This is one of the most basic rules, and I keep seeing it being ignored. Scary.

07-25-2010, 03:00 PM	#12
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,569 Thanks: 3,202 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	Weirs Channel Yesterday around 12:30 in the afternoon two boneheads were traveling at above wake speed through the channel from Paugus. One had NH bow number and the other had MS. Everyone was cursing at them. One did slow down after passing a Fountain as the Fountain swerve toward him forcing him to slow down. The other kept going and ignored everyone. Both were bowriders loaded with family and tube. Friday, I saw one MP boat cruising through Weirs channel toward the end of the day. Probably checking out the boats for the Weirs fire works. Saturday, I saw one MP boat at the Lake entrance to the Weirs Channel near sunset. I use to see them everywhere. Now it is about once a day. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

07-20-2010, 09:51 AM	#1
jr616 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87 Thanks: 19 Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts	Cpt Bonehead from RI Or at least his boat was from RI. This particular boater came out of Center Harbor at full speed next to us by about 5 feet. That's legal right?? If you are coming here please learn the boating laws.

07-20-2010, 10:16 AM	#2
MJM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 11 Posts	I was of the mindset that things were getting better....until this past weekend, that is! THREE different Capt Boneheads ignoring what I consider to be a very basic rule - who is stand-on and who is give-way. #1 was off Sewall Point. I was to his starboard, so therefore I have R.O.W. He did yield, but came within maybe 25ft of my stern as I crossed his would-be path. Annoying, but at least he yielded, I suppose. #2 was near the entrance to Minge Cove. Again, I was to his starboard. He never so much as touched his throttle or course. Absolutely would've been a t-bone collision had I not slowed. I blew my airhorn and got a look of "what's your problem??" from Capt Bonehead. #3 Was near Parker Island. I have no idea whether this guy knows the rules or not, BECAUSE HE NEVER SAW ME!!! I saw him/our pending intersection a good 3-4 minutes out. Watching....watching...closer...closer....I throttle back....all I can see is Bonehead's BACK. He is standing, right hand draped over the wheel, completely facing his passengers! I really don't think he ever knew I was there...he was chatting away, pointing out things on shore, etc., completely oblivious to what was happening ahead/to starboard of him. Sigh.

07-20-2010, 10:58 AM	#3
Ryan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mass/Gilford Posts: 247 Thanks: 216 Thanked 70 Times in 33 Posts	I continue to maintain there needs to be more MP presence - especially near the entrance to the Weirs Channel. One or two MP boats could have a field day writing tickets for the plethora of infractions that take place both coming and going from the channel. Some of the fines would help to replenish the MP fund that was gutted by the legislature. Saturday, we were approaching the entrance to the channel and had a boat off our starboard about 200ft. A Capt'n B gets up on plane and passes right between us. At least he waved. With the wind and boat traffic, it wasn't exactly calm and smooth (not that this matters). To date, I have seen TWO MP boats on the lake this year. __________________ Please do not feel the trolls.

07-20-2010, 11:13 AM	#4
Seaplane Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,177 Thanks: 664 Thanked 943 Times in 368 Posts	Winnfabs got it all wrong - definitely barked up the wrong tree. And for that matter, the Reps and Senators were too ignorant to take the time to investigate the real problems. Sorry, too late now.

07-20-2010, 03:55 PM	#9
masssteve Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Reading, MA & Laconia, NH Posts: 67 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	There to busy hanging around Braun bay and Little Bear. Giving out tickets to mostly residents and boaters that mostly know what there doing. There aren't to many vacationers and weekenders that make there way up that part of lake so why hang around there? They should stay were most of the trouble is right? But I never see them when you need them to be there.

07-25-2010, 06:13 PM	#14
dog paw Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Unfortunantly in the few years that I have been spending time on Winnipesaukee I can safely say the weekend warrior issue is getting worse. But as bad as it might be its ten times that on other lakes. I dunno if there is a answer.... The caliber of Boneheads I'm used to would not last 2 hours on Winni, the rocks would get em before they could be a menace LOL! This past week we saw a MP every time we went out. In fact, had a moron strong arm the right of way from me right in front of one. Those new boats the MP's have do a takedown pretty well Talk about not checking your surroundings before doing something stupid.... Anyhow had a wonderful week, burnt up 50 gal or so of irreplaceable fossile fuel in the Sea Doos and enjoyed every minute of it Looking foward to next time.

07-27-2010, 04:01 PM	#15
Winnipesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 233 Thanks: 14 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts	I like to use the channel due north of Eagle to avoid the NWZ. A lot of the time I'll be coming from the Weirs and will have to give way to somebody coming from the Meredith area (off my port side) who won't give way to me. __________________ Sail fast, live slow!

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07-27-2010, 10:29 PM	#17
VtSteve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,320 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 230 Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts	Sounds like back to normal Lots of boats, boneheads, and lack of enforcement. I wonder if some of the major boneheads were in decision-making positions over the MP budget? Where are all those that felt especially "Safe" last summer? Inquiring minds want to know

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07-28-2010, 06:25 AM	#18
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,677 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 353 Thanked 639 Times in 290 Posts	While at Meredith last weekend for the antique boat show, the dog we were walking needed to cool off its paws at the ramp. I couldn't help but wonder why the most prominent sign there informs guest boaters about a speed limit, but nothing (that I noticed) about the 150 foot separation rule. We are not teaching the Captain B's the most important rule on the lake. Who ever bought those signs missed an opportunity to promote safety with just another line of text. __________________ -lg

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07-29-2010, 01:59 PM	#19
steadyon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	It's just too damn bad! Squam lake is getting worse as well. Unfortunately there is not much we can do except to keep a watchful eye out for them. I like the video idea, but you probably could not get the bow #.