100 MPH Through No Wake Zone?

bilproject · 08-10-2010, 12:09 PM

I'm a few houses down from the mail dock and my wife and I were sitting on the dock when he went through. He knew the lake as he took the westerly path through so his turn was not too sharp. From my dock to the red top bouy off dolly is 1.1 miles by gps. He covered that distance in about 30 seconds. We found this to be a road runner moment especially after the MP boat came around the corner almost a minute later.

Bear Islander · 08-10-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bilproject

I'm a few houses down from the mail dock and my wife and I were sitting on the dock when he went through. He knew the lake as he took the westerly path through so his turn was not too sharp. From my dock to the red top bouy off dolly is 1.1 miles by gps. He covered that distance in about 30 seconds. We found this to be a road runner moment especially after the MP boat came around the corner almost a minute later.

If your time estimate was correct then he did 1.1 miles in 30 seconds, that calculates to 133 MPH. In any event he was moving.

VtSteve · 08-10-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bilproject

I'm a few houses down from the mail dock and my wife and I were sitting on the dock when he went through. He knew the lake as he took the westerly path through so his turn was not too sharp. From my dock to the red top bouy off dolly is 1.1 miles by gps. He covered that distance in about 30 seconds. We found this to be a road runner moment especially after the MP boat came around the corner almost a minute later.

It's a pretty rare Cig indeed that can go that fast. But it doesn't matter. As BI has stated in the past, many go through that NWZ at planing speeds. Anything above headway speed is an infraction, speeds at planing speed are worse, anything at WOT which is more than 40 or so is egregious violations. I don;t mean that as a legal definition, just an expression of horror. At 70 mph and up in a NWZ, he should be arrested and taken to jail.

Hermit Cover · 08-10-2010, 05:02 PM

The Lake Winni Dragstrip for the "Needers for Speeders" has been moved to off- shore Miami, Florida....no speed limits and Florida doesn't require helmets. And...those boats can operate with impunity 365!!

Lakegeezer · 08-11-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VtSteve

At 70 mph and up in a NWZ, he should be arrested and taken to jail.

A bit harsh, considering the way NWZ's are created on a whim these days. Someone going 70 through the Barber's pole on a nice Tuesday in October, with no boats around, is not a problem and should be left alone. Doing the same through a crowd is a different issue.

sunset on the dock · 08-11-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

A bit harsh, considering the way NWZ's are created on a whim these days. Someone going 70 through the Barber's pole on a nice Tuesday in October, with no boats around, is not a problem and should be left alone. Doing the same through a crowd is a different issue.

I don't think NWZ's are created on a whim these days. The lake is far more crowded than in years past and many more of the boats are capable of high speeds. And it shouldn't be left to the individual offender as to when and by how much to interpret what is safe and proper. Imagine if we did this on our roads. Its OK to go through downtown Wolfeboro at 50 MPH if its 2 AM but you must do 45 if the roads are wet but 55 is OK if you have a low riding Porsche(60 OK if you have extra wide tires and heavy duty breaks)....WAY too confusing.

Bear Islander · 08-11-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

A bit harsh, considering the way NWZ's are created on a whim these days. Someone going 70 through the Barber's pole on a nice Tuesday in October, with no boats around, is not a problem and should be left alone. Doing the same through a crowd is a different issue.

Do you drive through a red light if there are no other cars on the road?

You are responsible for obeying the law ALL the time. Not just when think it's appropriate.

Sometimes a NWZ is really about the wake, like in the weirs channel. Is it ok to go through there full speed in October? You can't leave it up to the operator to decide when he should obey the rules.

Yankee · 08-11-2010, 08:20 PM

YAWN, 'sigh', I need more popcorn...

RailroadJoe · 08-12-2010, 08:39 AM

YANKEE

That just about sums up the USA problem.

HUH · 08-17-2010, 09:44 PM

This thread really got me rolling on the floor.. Speed boats.. near Bear Island???
Say it aint so

My favorite is the speed boats make big wakes theory...LOL FAIL!

pwdcrownies · 08-22-2010, 08:14 PM

Smok'em if ya got um. Haven't we all wanted to break the rules just once, maybe twice?

pm203 · 08-23-2010, 09:12 AM

And, you must have to admit, it must have been pretty cool to witness.

OCDACTIVE · 08-23-2010, 12:37 PM

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And, you must have to admit, it must have been pretty cool to witness.

While I understand the excitement aspect to it. (hence why people watch high speed chases on TV etc. and I for one wouldn't have turned my head) - and not directed at you PM203 or anyone else for that matter..........

But if my son was paddle boating through the NWZ there and this guy blew through it, I for one would have wanted to shoot out his engines. This was a blatent disregard for public safety and could have gone from exciting to tragic.

Now luckily that didn't happen and we can discuss this as an issue rather then an accident, but what we need to do is learn from this.

It isn't a matter of the class of boat that was being driven it was the driver. There has to be penalties that keep drivers like this from returning to the lake not the type of boat. The MP need to have the rights and penalties the Coast Guard has. (don't quote me but I believe if you try to out run the coast guard the fines are in the thousands of dollars - 15K comes to my mind - not to mention you may get a 50 cal. through your block) So my guess is if these were the same regulations for the MP that the CG have many people would be less likely to try a stunt like this. This shouldn't just apply to outrunning the MP but all MP regulations should mirror the CG. IMHO

Kracken · 08-23-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

While I understand the excitement aspect to it. (hence why people watch high speed chases on TV etc. and I for one wouldn't have turned my head) - and not directed at you PM203 or anyone else for that matter..........

But if my son was paddle boating through the NWZ there and this guy blew through it, I for one would have wanted to shoot out his engines. This was a blatent disregard for public safety and could have gone from exciting to tragic.

Now luckily that didn't happen and we can discuss this as an issue rather then an accident, but what we need to do is learn from this.

It isn't a matter of the class of boat that was being driven it was the driver. There has to be penalties that keep drivers like this from returning to the lake not the type of boat. The MP need to have the rights and penalties the Coast Guard has. (don't quote me but I believe if you try to out run the coast guard the fines are in the thousands of dollars - 15K comes to my mind - not to mention you may get a 50 cal. through your block) So my guess is if these were the same regulations for the MP that the CG have many people would be less likely to try a stunt like this. This shouldn't just apply to outrunning the MP but all MP regulations should mirror the CG. IMHO

I would be fine with giving the MP all the authority of the Coast Guard right up to 50 cal. The thought of NHMP with 50 caliber guns mounted on the bow of their McRibbs scares the crap out of me.

08-10-2010, 12:09 PM	#1
bilproject Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bear Island/Fort Myers, Fla Posts: 231 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1 Thanked 59 Times in 41 Posts	Bi might be low on speed I'm a few houses down from the mail dock and my wife and I were sitting on the dock when he went through. He knew the lake as he took the westerly path through so his turn was not too sharp. From my dock to the red top bouy off dolly is 1.1 miles by gps. He covered that distance in about 30 seconds. We found this to be a road runner moment especially after the MP boat came around the corner almost a minute later.

08-10-2010, 05:02 PM	#4
Hermit Cover Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hermit Cove Posts: 354 Thanks: 20 Thanked 68 Times in 40 Posts	FLL's Dragstrip.... The Lake Winni Dragstrip for the "Needers for Speeders" has been moved to off- shore Miami, Florida....no speed limits and Florida doesn't require helmets. And...those boats can operate with impunity 365!!

08-11-2010, 08:20 PM	#8
Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 150 Thanks: 19 Thanked 38 Times in 23 Posts	YAWN, 'sigh', I need more popcorn... __________________ __________________ __________________ So what have we learned in the past two thousand years? "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of Obamunism should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest the Republic become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." . . .Evidently nothing. (Cicero, 55 BC augmented by me, 2010 AD)

08-17-2010, 09:44 PM	#10
HUH Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 230 Thanks: 21 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Roflmao This thread really got me rolling on the floor.. Speed boats.. near Bear Island??? Say it aint so My favorite is the speed boats make big wakes theory...LOL FAIL!

08-22-2010, 08:14 PM	#11
pwdcrownies Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Amherst/SD Shores Posts: 13 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Cigarette Smok'em if ya got um. Haven't we all wanted to break the rules just once, maybe twice?

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08-12-2010, 08:39 AM	#9
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	YANKEE That just about sums up the USA problem.

08-23-2010, 09:12 AM	#12
pm203 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 225 Thanks: 41 Thanked 86 Times in 46 Posts	And, you must have to admit, it must have been pretty cool to witness.