Treasure?

GunzandRoses · 08-23-2010, 11:51 AM

Did anyone catch the clip on WMUR last night about the supposed treasure near the Witches? Apparently there’s been some speculation that a horse-drawn buggy fell through the ice back in the early 1800's. The carriage was supposedly carrying a large quantity of Spanish Gold bars across the lake when the buggy hit a patch of weak ice and fell through. The gold bars were stolen in a famous heist from the Abenaki Indian tribe. All 3 men transporting the load drowned and are still resting at the bottom with their treasure. Treasure hunters have kept quiet about the potential fortune until now. After years of unsuccessful dives, a man only identified as Kevin sought out the help of a Maritime Research company from Rhode Island to analyze the affect currents, wind, topography, and ice pressure could have on the treasure. The research was just recently published in a report and claims that the treasure could have drifted as far away are 3 nautical miles from the original location. Pinpointing the original location that the buggy fell through has also been tough to determine. The treasure is estimated at roughly $2.3 million USD.

Just curious if anyone else caught the clip or has heard of this legend. I for one will definitely be spending my free time diving near the witches in search of riches!

GsChinadoll · 08-23-2010, 12:16 PM

Would'nt gold bars be too heavy to move too far in a lake? I love old legends like this one, it must have some truth to it. My father used to tell of a hidden pirate treasure in Lynnfield/Saugus MA. that he heard of when he was a kid in the nineteen thirties. Always wondered if there was any truth to it. Good luck in your search!

Slickcraft · 08-23-2010, 12:34 PM

I would spend my time on more promising treasure hunts. Got to go, with this rain there must be a rainbow around here somewhere.

MAXUM · 08-23-2010, 03:37 PM

Think the only treasure you'll find there is bits and pieces of boats that have made the unfortunate mistake of running through, not around the witches.

robmac · 08-23-2010, 05:12 PM

Well with the price of scrape metal these days the Witches may be a gold mine.

Pricestavern · 08-24-2010, 11:41 AM

Ever notice that it's always Spanish gold that's involved in treasure stories?

jst_4_kiks · 08-24-2010, 10:48 PM

The two best places for diving for boat parts is The Witchs & The Graveyard. I have seen people pull up skegs, lowers from outboards with props still on them, stainless props on propshafts, etc from The Graveyard area. Just depends where you want to start diving.

The Eagle · 08-30-2010, 10:10 AM

Hi Guys & Gals,
The story of the sunken treasure is TRUE! I was wondering when it would surface on the website. Here is what I know! It was a Spanish Galleon, in fact it was a four masted ship, named "The Black Falcon." Carrying gold, and other treasures. It mysteriously disappeared, with all it's valuable cargo. Now, from how the story goes, it wasn't "Lost" forever, but resurfaced again, about four or five years ago. It was discovered by a group of Survivors, from a plane crash (a commercial jet from Australia), on a "Lost Island." The plane went down and the survivors swam to an island, on Winnipesaukee, where they waited to be rescued. It was a mysterious island, where some kind of experiments were taking place (might be where that old sunken Navy platform is in Alton) but it was called the "Darmer Initiave." Anyway, some of the survivors found the Black Falcon, and all it's gold, and attempted to bring it back across the water (via a wagon) in the winter when the ice was thick enought to hold the weigth of the gold (or so they thought), On the way something happened, and a strange force, caused the all in the group, the gold, and The Black Falcon, to disappear again (it happened this past spring, and stories have it, a band of "Witches" grabbed them and pulled them under. That's how the "Witches" got it's name ) Now they are all stuck "Somewhere" on Winnipesaukee, on a LOST Island, and so as of this date, the Black Falcon, The gold, Kate, Jack, John, Hurley, Siebe, and the others remain LOST somewhere on an Island. Many have tried to find the island, but no one has, and returned to tell about it..so Good Luck... BUT Beware!
The Eagle!

ClosetExtrovert · 08-30-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Eagle

Hi Guys & Gals,
The story of the sunken treasure is TRUE! I was wondering when it would surface on the website. Here is what I know! It was a Spanish Galleon, in fact it was a four masted ship, named "The Black Falcon." Carrying gold, and other treasures. It mysteriously disappeared, with all it's valuable cargo. Now, from how the story goes, it wasn't "Lost" forever, but resurfaced again, about four or five years ago. It was discovered by a group of Survivors, from a plane crash (a commercial jet from Australia), on a "Lost Island." The plane went down and the survivors swam to an island, on Winnipesaukee, where they waited to be rescued. It was a mysterious island, where some kind of experiments were taking place (might be where that old sunken Navy platform is in Alton) but it was called the "Darmer Initiave." Anyway, some of the survivors found the Black Falcon, and all it's gold, and attempted to bring it back across the water (via a wagon) in the winter when the ice was thick enought to hold the weigth of the gold (or so they thought), On the way something happened, and a strange force, caused the all in the group, the gold, and The Black Falcon, to disappear again (it happened this past spring, and stories have it, a band of "Witches" grabbed them and pulled them under. That's how the "Witches" got it's name ) Now they are all stuck "Somewhere" on Winnipesaukee, on a LOST Island, and so as of this date, the Black Falcon, The gold, Kate, Jack, John, Hurley, Siebe, and the others remain LOST somewhere on an Island. Many have tried to find the island, but no one has, and returned to tell about it..so Good Luck... BUT Beware!
The Eagle!

You know - this sounds vaguely familiar....

Argie's Wife · 08-30-2010, 06:41 PM

Methinks Eagle is loaded to the gunwales.... this wench would be a squiffer for buyin' a tale as tall as that one... sure sounds like Redbeard to me...

SteveA · 08-30-2010, 09:23 PM

fan among us.

Or maybe an author?.

Gunz and Roses
ISBN: 1601621566
Label: Urban Books
Manufacturer: Urban Books
Number Of Pages: 224
Publication Date: September 01, 2009

Urban fiction diva Keisha Ervin is back with Gunz and Roses, her latest story of street love.
Time stands still as up and coming fashion editor Gray Rose watches the man of her dreams walk into the club

Maybe a famous author has moved into one of the discount McMansions on Governors Island.

PS... this is intended to be a joke... so all nasty replies will be ingored.

RI Swamp Yankee · 08-31-2010, 10:34 AM

I thought it was just a variation of Guns N' Roses, a hard rock band.

Grant · 08-31-2010, 02:41 PM

The hell with the gold. I'm still hoping to find the missing load of Prohibition booze near Rum Point!

08-23-2010, 11:51 AM	#1
GunzandRoses Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Coming by way of the dirty waters in MA, I currently reside in the Lakes Region w/my 12 ponies. Posts: 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Treasure? Did anyone catch the clip on WMUR last night about the supposed treasure near the Witches? Apparently there’s been some speculation that a horse-drawn buggy fell through the ice back in the early 1800's. The carriage was supposedly carrying a large quantity of Spanish Gold bars across the lake when the buggy hit a patch of weak ice and fell through. The gold bars were stolen in a famous heist from the Abenaki Indian tribe. All 3 men transporting the load drowned and are still resting at the bottom with their treasure. Treasure hunters have kept quiet about the potential fortune until now. After years of unsuccessful dives, a man only identified as Kevin sought out the help of a Maritime Research company from Rhode Island to analyze the affect currents, wind, topography, and ice pressure could have on the treasure. The research was just recently published in a report and claims that the treasure could have drifted as far away are 3 nautical miles from the original location. Pinpointing the original location that the buggy fell through has also been tough to determine. The treasure is estimated at roughly $2.3 million USD. Just curious if anyone else caught the clip or has heard of this legend. I for one will definitely be spending my free time diving near the witches in search of riches!

08-23-2010, 12:16 PM	#2
GsChinadoll Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Northern MA & Moultonboro Posts: 54 Thanks: 339 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	Would'nt gold bars be too heavy to move too far in a lake? I love old legends like this one, it must have some truth to it. My father used to tell of a hidden pirate treasure in Lynnfield/Saugus MA. that he heard of when he was a kid in the nineteen thirties. Always wondered if there was any truth to it. Good luck in your search! __________________ Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.

08-24-2010, 11:41 AM	#6
Pricestavern Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Valencia, Spain (formerly Rattlesnake Isle) Posts: 388 Thanks: 135 Thanked 142 Times in 82 Posts	Spanish Gold Ever notice that it's always Spanish gold that's involved in treasure stories?

08-24-2010, 10:48 PM	#7
jst_4_kiks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 128 Thanks: 24 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	The two best places for diving for boat parts is The Witchs & The Graveyard. I have seen people pull up skegs, lowers from outboards with props still on them, stainless props on propshafts, etc from The Graveyard area. Just depends where you want to start diving. __________________ Marine Technician - Learning Something New Every Day PM with any questions about marine repair

08-30-2010, 10:10 AM	#8
The Eagle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Burlington MA & Moultonboro NH Posts: 218 Thanks: 17 Thanked 141 Times in 33 Posts	The Treasure...TRUE Story! Hi Guys & Gals, The story of the sunken treasure is TRUE! I was wondering when it would surface on the website. Here is what I know! It was a Spanish Galleon, in fact it was a four masted ship, named "The Black Falcon." Carrying gold, and other treasures. It mysteriously disappeared, with all it's valuable cargo. Now, from how the story goes, it wasn't "Lost" forever, but resurfaced again, about four or five years ago. It was discovered by a group of Survivors, from a plane crash (a commercial jet from Australia), on a "Lost Island." The plane went down and the survivors swam to an island, on Winnipesaukee, where they waited to be rescued. It was a mysterious island, where some kind of experiments were taking place (might be where that old sunken Navy platform is in Alton) but it was called the "Darmer Initiave." Anyway, some of the survivors found the Black Falcon, and all it's gold, and attempted to bring it back across the water (via a wagon) in the winter when the ice was thick enought to hold the weigth of the gold (or so they thought), On the way something happened, and a strange force, caused the all in the group, the gold, and The Black Falcon, to disappear again (it happened this past spring, and stories have it, a band of "Witches" grabbed them and pulled them under. That's how the "Witches" got it's name ) Now they are all stuck "Somewhere" on Winnipesaukee, on a LOST Island, and so as of this date, the Black Falcon, The gold, Kate, Jack, John, Hurley, Siebe, and the others remain LOST somewhere on an Island. Many have tried to find the island, but no one has, and returned to tell about it..so Good Luck... BUT Beware! The Eagle! Last edited by The Eagle; 08-30-2010 at 10:14 AM. Reason: misspelling

08-23-2010, 12:34 PM	#3
Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community Posts: 3,284 Thanks: 1,216 Thanked 2,055 Times in 945 Posts	I would spend my time on more promising treasure hunts. Got to go, with this rain there must be a rainbow around here somewhere.

08-23-2010, 03:37 PM	#4
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	Think the only treasure you'll find there is bits and pieces of boats that have made the unfortunate mistake of running through, not around the witches.

08-23-2010, 05:12 PM	#5
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	Well with the price of scrape metal these days the Witches may be a gold mine.

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08-30-2010, 06:41 PM	#10
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	Methinks Eagle is loaded to the gunwales.... this wench would be a squiffer for buyin' a tale as tall as that one... sure sounds like Redbeard to me...

08-30-2010, 09:23 PM	#11
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Me thinks we have a ... fan among us. Or maybe an author?. Gunz and Roses ISBN: 1601621566 Label: Urban Books Manufacturer: Urban Books Number Of Pages: 224 Publication Date: September 01, 2009 Urban fiction diva Keisha Ervin is back with Gunz and Roses, her latest story of street love. Time stands still as up and coming fashion editor Gray Rose watches the man of her dreams walk into the club Maybe a famous author has moved into one of the discount McMansions on Governors Island. PS... this is intended to be a joke... so all nasty replies will be ingored. __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

08-31-2010, 10:34 AM	#12
RI Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Kingstown RI Posts: 688 Thanks: 143 Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts	I thought it was just a variation of Guns N' Roses, a hard rock band. __________________ Gene ~ aka "another RI Swamp Yankee"

08-31-2010, 02:41 PM	#13
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,499 Thanks: 373 Thanked 229 Times in 123 Posts	The hell with the gold. I'm still hoping to find the missing load of Prohibition booze near Rum Point! __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."