Shoreline Protection Act seminar

Onshore · 08-30-2010, 01:33 PM

Nothing currently scheduled. In the lakes Region but you can call the phone number on the application and set up a time to come in and we can go over it with you before you submit the application.

Merrymeeting · 08-30-2010, 02:38 PM

Shore Things,

Thanks for the prompt and informative post.

The main thing I am looking for right now is an example of, or more specific information on the plan requirements.

I have a small, pre-existing, non-conforming lot. The post-construction conditions will be very close to the pre-construction, with no work planned in the Waterfront Buffer.

Would a notated plot plan be acceptable, or do I need to hire a surveying firm to create a formal plan. (Obviously I'm trying to keep costs down here while still meeting the needs of the Act). Are there any example applications available online?

Thanks again

Onshore · 08-30-2010, 02:50 PM

We have accepted plot plans modified by the property owners before. Call Jay Aube in our office. He is technically our Outreach Coordinator, but is currently retasked to permitting. I know he has put some short powerpoints together on various aspects of completeing the application. If he has something on plan preparation he can get it to you.

jmen24 · 08-30-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shore things

Nothing currently scheduled. In the lakes Region but you can call the phone number on the application and set up a time to come in and we can go over it with you before you submit the application.

Sarcasm Alert!

Right, talk it over ahead of time. Really, all you are doing is taking down all the info to make it impossible to do anything with their waterfront property.

Really shore things, time to come clean with this...

It can't possibly be that easy.

Onshore · 08-30-2010, 03:16 PM

No, it really is that easy to come in and talk over an application before submitting it. It is better for everyone if the application is complete when it gets to us. Suprisingly, none of us here actually enjoy doing unnecessary papework so if we can suggest a design alternative that wouldn't require a permit or if for some reason the project just isn't approvable we would just as soon tell the applicant before they file an application.

RLW · 08-30-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shore things

No, it really is that easy to come in and talk over an application before submitting it. It is better for everyone if the application is complete when it gets to us. Suprisingly, none of us here actually enjoy doing unnecessary papework so if we can suggest a design alternative that wouldn't require a permit or if for some reason the project just isn't approvable we would just as soon tell the applicant before they file an application.

That sure as heck makes a Lotta since to this ole geezer. It is very beneficial to both parties and will save a Lotta lead and paper. Lets be Green.

jmen24 · 08-30-2010, 04:40 PM

I forget, anyone know what this smily means?

Oh well. Guess CSPA is not the big monster it is portrayed as being.

Anyway, what is the expected turn around time for an appointment to be scheduled for a preliminary permit review.

Preliminary permiting meetings are standard issue in the construction industry, but they need to be handled timely in order to work as intended. Some folks have contracted deadlines that we are working with.

Onshore · 08-30-2010, 04:49 PM

I saw the smiley and had crafted a reply just dripping with sarcasm, but then deleted it for fear it would show up in some other place taken completely out of context.

The 2 gentlemen primarily responsible for permitting right now are usually able to schedule within a week. I can be a little more difficult to schedule with depending on the season.

jmen24 · 08-31-2010, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shore things

I saw the smiley and had crafted a reply just dripping with sarcasm, but then deleted it for fear it would show up in some other place taken completely out of context.

The 2 gentlemen primarily responsible for permitting right now are usually able to schedule within a week. I can be a little more difficult to schedule with depending on the season.

I should have known better, but with all the bad rap folks give CSPA, I just had to point out that it is really not that bad.

Thanks for the replies and the additional information for anyone that may be in future need of your services.

08-30-2010, 01:33 PM	#1
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 503 Thanks: 12 Thanked 425 Times in 146 Posts	Nothing currently scheduled. In the lakes Region but you can call the phone number on the application and set up a time to come in and we can go over it with you before you submit the application.

08-30-2010, 02:38 PM	#2
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,226 Thanks: 304 Thanked 800 Times in 368 Posts	Shore Things, Thanks for the prompt and informative post. The main thing I am looking for right now is an example of, or more specific information on the plan requirements. I have a small, pre-existing, non-conforming lot. The post-construction conditions will be very close to the pre-construction, with no work planned in the Waterfront Buffer. Would a notated plot plan be acceptable, or do I need to hire a surveying firm to create a formal plan. (Obviously I'm trying to keep costs down here while still meeting the needs of the Act). Are there any example applications available online? Thanks again

08-30-2010, 02:50 PM	#3
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 503 Thanks: 12 Thanked 425 Times in 146 Posts	We have accepted plot plans modified by the property owners before. Call Jay Aube in our office. He is technically our Outreach Coordinator, but is currently retasked to permitting. I know he has put some short powerpoints together on various aspects of completeing the application. If he has something on plan preparation he can get it to you.

08-30-2010, 03:16 PM	#5
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 503 Thanks: 12 Thanked 425 Times in 146 Posts	No, it really is that easy to come in and talk over an application before submitting it. It is better for everyone if the application is complete when it gets to us. Suprisingly, none of us here actually enjoy doing unnecessary papework so if we can suggest a design alternative that wouldn't require a permit or if for some reason the project just isn't approvable we would just as soon tell the applicant before they file an application.

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08-30-2010, 04:40 PM	#7
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	I forget, anyone know what this smily means? Oh well. Guess CSPA is not the big monster it is portrayed as being. Anyway, what is the expected turn around time for an appointment to be scheduled for a preliminary permit review. Preliminary permiting meetings are standard issue in the construction industry, but they need to be handled timely in order to work as intended. Some folks have contracted deadlines that we are working with.

08-30-2010, 04:49 PM	#8
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 503 Thanks: 12 Thanked 425 Times in 146 Posts	I saw the smiley and had crafted a reply just dripping with sarcasm, but then deleted it for fear it would show up in some other place taken completely out of context. The 2 gentlemen primarily responsible for permitting right now are usually able to schedule within a week. I can be a little more difficult to schedule with depending on the season.